Love it! Thanks! I appreciate you for putting so much effort and detail into your caring advice! I apologize for taking so long to reply. Been busy.

You’re making an assumption that a woman isn’t making her own money. I do crave security, and I provide that for myself.

Having said that, I agree with the rest of your comment.

And the fourth man to bring up the money angle .

I agree with you.

Income and financial stability in myself and my partner matters to me.

I am independent and support myself fully.

I do not consider myself shallow, superficial or high maintenance.

However, like I said here months ago, having grown up in poverty and paying my dues so to speak as a single mom for many years, the last thing I want is somebody who will be dependent on me to carry the load for any entertainment, dining, traveling, etc., etc. I like doing those things and I intend to keep doing those things.

I would want a partner who makes about as much as I make or more.

Everybody who has said here, and in other threads, that it doesn’t matter how much somebody makes as long as they are a good person is not speaking for all people.

I don’t feel bad that I have no desire to couple up with somebody who barely makes enough to pay rent or mortgage and not much else. I have zero doubt that I am not the Lone Ranger in this mindset—males and females included.

I understand completely. I think it is smart to find a partner who can contribute ....not someone you will have to support. If you have children you probably have to help them out at times...no need for another mouth to feed. @BlueWave

Money is an important ingredient of any relationship. @Cast1es

You understand the situation.....@jorj

Of course in this age, women are making money to support themselves....but do you want to support a man besides yourself and perhaps your children? @HariT

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The only lady talking about the money - says don't post it .

@Cast1es I agree—don’t post it no matter what it is.

16 to 18 I was getting there. Now either lottery, which I never play or inheritance, which would probably be 20 years or more, when I'm 70ish. Lol

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Nope!

Sure, so when I inevitibly piss her off, she can send them to Kim Kardashian on Facebook and Twitter so they spread like wildfire. Lol

Yes, I agree!

With all due respect, my whole life I've heard people say you should 'be yourself'. Girlfriends didn't seem to like me doing that. Even on here, I've always been myself to a fault. Alot of people haven't liked that.

@JohnINFP well...they should find someone made in their own image...apparently! You want someone that accepts each person as he/she is...and appreciates that! Otherwise, you would be forever swimming up stream, warn out before your time! Now, if you know what your dark side is (we all have one), you might shine some light there and make ‘that’ better!

Nice writing skills, just saying

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Been a little busy. I'm going to work on it. Writing was never my strong suit.

@maturin1919 I do, too. ?

July 7th? How do you post in the future? This is what you do with a time machine?!!

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Like I just commented , it's a man thing ....

I'll have to try that. I've still got a few of those. Lol

@Cast1es well, I'm just trying to figure women out what women want. Maybe you all don't want us to do that. I'm so confused. Lol

Thanks! It's nice to know that someone likes my honesty. That's rare.

Um, no

Rich men scare me... Unfortunately. I wouldn't know what to do with one.

And this is the third a man to bring up the money angle , but I don't see women asking for that info .

I believe that your general premise would prove to be true were it studied, although undoubtedly not in quite such black and whiteness.

While I would not be interested in coupling with somebody living paycheck to paycheck wondering from where the next tank of gas is coming, if you give me two people and let’s say for shits and giggles the kinder, more perfect person makes $90,000 a year, and the arrogant but seemingly more desirable person makes $200,000 a year, I would still choose the kinder person who makes less—even if he is as unattractive as Mick Jagger.

But, for me and I have zero doubt millions of other people, somebody making barely enough to pay the bills won’t even make it to my radar as a possible mate.

I have honestly seen a gorgeous woman's profile in the Houston area who's profile 'jokingly' said to not contact her unless you made $400k annually. I showed co-workers. A few guys agreed with me... "Her list of deal-breakers sound and are written like jokes, but she is serious!"
Others were laughing "No way she is being serious!"

A few months later it went down to 300k. Then 250k. Then 200. Clearly she was serious.

(She also said you have to be Jewish, or willing to convert!)

Oh, very sad!!

@pepperjones Hilarious! The honesty!

@BangkokBette Yup, alot of the rich guys are bad and very bad. That's how many of them get rich in the first place. Bad boys and players.

@pepperjones You have proved my point on all 3 issues. I know that many woman equate a man's height with how handsome he is. I've heard that all my life from everywhere. I've been called short all my life. It doesn't bother me anymore. I only need one woman who likes my height. Many women I've known truly don't even care. I even dated a woman for a long time. who was 5'6", she didn't even care. She was attracted to me for other reasons. That's why I put them at the top. If I didn't post that I have depression or little money, a woman that initially liked me, but couldn't deal with these things, would be pissed with me if I hadn't been honest and up front. If a woman did that to me, I would be pissed. I saved you and me precious time by you knowing my exact height. I know that's a top issue fo many women. That's why I put it at the top. Saves the woman's time . Saves me time. : ) Were you honest in your bio about YOUR exact height requirements in feet and inches? Many women are doing that. Wouldn't that save you lots of time?

@Cast1es But, don't women really eventually want to know your man's income, no matter how subtle you are about finding out? And I think sometimes it's when some women make that decision. I bought my last girlfriend many nice things that she wanted for a couple of years. One day, when I told her I had run out of extra spending money she immediately walked out my door. I know many women don't tell men these things. Maybe for fear of being labeled a goldigger.

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When I was in 1st or 2nd grade, I had a crush on a girl. So I asked some women in my family 'what do girls want'. One said 'MONEY!'. So, I proceeded to gather all my coins and put them in an envelope. I brought them to school. When I was in my bus line I jumped up and ran across to the other side of the gym. I risked missing my bus. Right before I almost made it to where she was, I leaned down near her and the envelope popped open. I spilled them all over the gym floor. I couldn' even talk, to tell her what I was doing, because I was so nervous. I felt so humiliated. I looked so crazy.

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Hilarious! Thanks! I'm going to add that one right now!

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