I used to argue to juries that there are some people who are alive solely because it's against the law to kill them...you know given your intent it stops being euthanasia right?

I am all for someone choosing euthanasia for themselves but not so much to cleanse the gene pool (although it needs some adjustment). That would require judgement from other people, ie who should or should not be euthanized. I don't trust other people's judgments.

Couldn't agree more.

And make it damn hard to get!

Would you advocate for the opposite as well?

@Xuande Absolutely. The ladies need to stay out of prostate cancer, male circumcision and male infertility treatment. I'm sure it's a sacrifice they'd be willing to make

@MrBeelzeebubbles Cool. I entirely agree on both points. That's weird. Wanna fight or something instead?

@Xuande actually, it's been a few months since I did any full contact sparring, so weirdly enough, yes. I do want a fight. I miss combat.

@MrBeelzeebubbles Oooo...can I get in on that? I love to spar. Even though this probably isn't the forum for it, what style do you (did you) practice? (Kickboxing and Tae Kwon Do, with a smidge of wrestling for me)

@MrBeelzeebubbles agreed, except about circumcision, that’s actually not a choice anyone should be making except the person who’s penis it is. I’ll fight to have it outlawed to babies even if I’m not a man.

@Chephren pretty similar - I mainly did kickboxing and Krav Maga, so mostly stand up stuff, with a bit of close quarters dirty boxing thrown in. I'm not much of a grappler.

I second that!

I kind of like it when they dispense with the pleasantries and focus on being right. The religious apologists make a big show of being nice and flaunt that shit-eater grin because they are not arguing evidence, they are trying to get people to like them and buy snakeoil.

What is the atheist cause?

@Donotbelieve Oooh, kinky!

@Donotbelieve I believe that being attracted to a man in a cardigan is the height of kink. But then again, I'm so vanilla I'm practically flavourless.

@Spongebob IKR?

Absobloodylutely..can't abide the smugass sexist git!

There is no atheist cause. Not believing in god is no cause. You believe in god? That is your problem. Just don't bother me with your religion.

Nothing happens for a reason as in fate or destiny but everything is determined by some other things that happened before. So in a sense everything happens for a reason, the reason being whatever happened before and led to that thing happening.

Never heard of cause and effect? Or Newon's Third Law?

Everything does happen for a reason, just not a supernatural, esoteric or metaphysical one.

Its a more intelligent (imo) decision. But you're not a more intelligent person. Thats my take

Unfortunately the majority of the members of this site fall under that category.

It does not make you more intelligent, it just takes the shackles off the intelligence that was there all along and dispels illusions and brain washing.

@Kevhov exactly my point of view !

The word "intelligent" is not a part of my vocabulary. I find it hard to tell who's intelligent and who's not. One's genius is someone else's idiot.

A real hero is someone who says "Its okay I will knock next door and see if they have any skins" at 3.15am

@maturin1919 black licorice is way worse then Hawaiian pizza seriously

I agree. Black licorice is the BEST licorice. I ate as a kid, and still eat it occasionally.

I agree.

@TristanNuvo I think that with our current numbers and what that does to the planet we could be classified as vermin.

@patchoullijulie Some simple mathematics about food should weigh in here as well.
meaning that by far, there isn't enough food food the whole population as it is, and the numbers keep growing at an alarming rate.

@TristanNuvo Yes and food supply is one of the most damaging things that we do.

@patchoullijulie and @TristanNuvo I accept that this is an unpopular opinion thread. However, we produce far more than enough food to feed the entire population.

People go to bed hungry because we aren't good at transporting it cheaply enough for anyone to do it. The world is not overpopulated. I never really understood this argument.

@Xuande I am actually talking about the way we produce the food not necessarily the quantity produced. I disagree on the over population question. For the stress that we put on the planet, we are in overpopulation mode.

@patchoullijulie The stress that we currently put on the planet isn't harming Earth so much as it is harming our future ability to live on it. That said, we're becoming more efficient and clean in our use of natural resources. By showing a greater respect to the environment, we could easily continue to expand.

The entire human population could live in an area the size of Ukraine. It'd be a bustling metropolis but we're not overpopulated from a land use standpoint.

So when and where are you running for election? ?

We should all get together and refuse to trade with shops who start their christmas push before December.

Long ago I heard a stat. that generally speaking, the more people spend on a wedding the shorter time the marriage will last. About says it all.

I mostly agree but I still watch occasionally ?

@maturin1919 I suppose so, but aside from actors which I also think are overpaid you don't see people getting paid multimillion dollar contracts to play a game that is basically inconsequential to our existence. Its obscene the things that could be helped and remedied by that money, when you rest of us give up our prime years and health for just the basics in most cases.

@maturin1919 because of stadium tax subsidy hand outs

If pro sports are so great, why do they need money from governments?!

Agreed. I stay away from babies and toddlers for that reason, among others.

Sour milk eh? I used to have fun thinking about starting a new cheese brand out of my little one’s poop. It smelled good. And then she started eating other things and the project was stopped before it even started.

@SergeyCornwall awgawd I just threw up in my mouth a little.

@linxminx they are killing us with every method they can think of. Look at the destruction of the epa

@linxminx Right, but it seems these overdoses are due to the promotion of these drugs as tools for pain mitigation while leaving out the dangers of addiction. FDA oversees drugs like this but not their marketing (see oxycontin).

i think it's more "the government has a lot of different addiction types to deal with but lack the funding and support" rather than "the government is doing nothing about it", but i get that sentiment, though.

i want something a bit more widespread and "random" in terms of population reduction.

When anyone mentions 'Big Pharma' I ask them if they are aware of alltrials.net .

@MrBeelzeebubbles @Xuande Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

why is it then that in the USA, a huge list of drugs are legal that everywhere else in the world are considered too dangerous, addictive or useless to be allowed to be prescribed by doctors?
Unless the Pharmaceutical companies do have undue influence on the writing and implementation of rules that govern them in the first place?

Just a though

@LenHazell53 that's why you should check out alltrials.net. It's a campaign for the release of all pharmaceutical trial data from all sources - academic and commercial.

@MrBeelzeebubbles I am confused. Wouldn't the release of all data just. confirm the reality of "big pharma"?

Well, wild animals are territorial too.

I agree here, manipulative looking under her eyelashes...

Legalize because illegal has obviously failed.

@patchoullijulie Agreed. Awhile back in another post, I wrote all drugs should be legalized.
-legal = no longer stigmatizing drug users, better treatments and care, regulation of potency and ingredients of drugs
-illegal = continued overdose/deaths and arrests/incarcerations

Prohibition is the base line for the illegal economy of all nations, it generates such huge amounts of wealth and indirectly supports the actual economy to such a degree it is always necessary.
If it is not drugs, it will be something else, forbidden fruit is always the sweetest.