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MITHRA. I recently joined a christian/atheist debating group and I suggested that the Jesus story may have been partly based on the story of Mithra, the Persian saviour.

This is the reply I got "Oh poo,poo, Who's Mithra,lol' A Japanese movie hero lololol.. I sent the person a link to details of Mithraism and I am awaiting a response.

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Moravian 8 Jan 6
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I attended a adjunct professor training course for my college. We talked about handling sensitive topics and how to deal with students who get riled up. The subject of religion was the one that apparently gets folks from 0-60 in three seconds. One of the participants told of a class they taught where one of the students questioned the validity of Jesus and another student within seconds was threatening to do severe bodily harm to the "non-believer" student. The police were actually called to escort the "Jesus" student out of the classroom.

Why am I not surprised. I got told at University that I was going to Hell because I had taken communion without being confirmed in a Catholic Church!

I do occasional Public debates with Priests, Bishops, Ministers of Religion and the like.
I am, of course, the one who stands firmly on the side of Reason, Logic and Atheism, I've had the 'faithfools' racking their religion sodden brains for response to my points so many times I've lost count and have had the 'faithfools' in the audiences often hurl threats of damnation at me, as well as the odd article of footwear, eggs, etc, EVEN a bible as well.
I can honestly say that never once have I actually either lost a debate or had one end in a tied situation, I've actually had, on numerous occasions, members of the ' clergy' either come up to me and congratulate me for knowledge of religion/s, bible 'history' and the ancient and historical sources upon which the bible has been so loosely 'based.'

Some of my most favorite memories are the 5 members of the clergy, all at sperate times I might add, who later met up with me to tell that my debates so impacted upon their beliefs that they began to question them and decided to reject them totally as being little more than " fireside mythologies taken completely out of their realms and used as tools to control the masses."

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According to the Mormon church, and they are deadly serious, Mithra, freemasonary, Tammuz worship and Dionysus were all sent to earth by the devil to mock the Christian saviour and the true faith, thousands of years before he was born in order to sow doubt in the minds of men.
Taking the piss by doing it before he did, sort of inverted plagiarism.
An them thur Murman boy went ahead and lapped it all up.

I know, amazing contortions these people will go through. My understanding is that as The cult of Mithras was a Roman Soldiers cult they were doing the bread and wine ritual centuries before Christos. When I challenged this I was told the The Devil went back in time to confuse everyone.

That makes perfect sense tricky old bastard wants to screw everybody up.

@Geoffrey51 Yup that's right
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Remember the advice Mark Twain gave, "Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"

BillF Level 7 Jan 6, 2019
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That would be Mothra, as in "Mothra vs. Godzilla", a black & white cult classic with truly terrible dubbing. Pretty good spe ial effects for the time, though....

I still think forbidden planet was better ?

@oldFloyd but not as funny!

@AnneWimsey don't forget Johnny sokko and the bad guys from gargoyle in their black corvair

@oldFloyd oooohhhh, you like talking "dirty", lol!
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How can you really have any sort of debate when their answer will boil down to either, "Because the bible says so!" or "That is my faith!"????

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That's why I think studying ancient religions and mythologies should become mandatory in school. No one in their right mind would then be arrogant enough to claim that their religion is something unique, formed in some kind of a vacuum. Who would believe in the virgin birth story and resurrection, if they realized they were borrowed from Zoroastrianism? @David1955 is absolutely right! Blind faith is the only thing that's keeping these myths "relevant" today.

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Thinking more about it, what sort of a failed broken education system do we have which lets people leave school with such a complete lack of historical knowledge anyway ?

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Level 7

I always thought the story of Gilgamesh was what the ancient Sumerians used for JC.

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Try telling them that their Monotheistic Ideology system can be directly linked back to Pharaoh Akhenaten ( Amenhotep IV) of Ancient Egypt and his great experiment at Akhetaton ( Armana as the ruins are called today), then you'll really get them squirming.

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Don't hold your breath. Theists who join such groups are not usually wanting to learn, only to have their prejudices confirmed.

And to proselytize, hoping to make an A-theist see the light and convert. That would be the star in their crown.

@jlynn37 Well, try as they might this IS one star that will forever elude them and their 'crown.'
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