While in a relationship with someone you do not live with, but lives say within 50 miles how often do you expect to see them in person, or receive a text message or phone call from them? I ask because I have dated people that were very distant and very clingy respectively and both seemed completely ignorant to it being a problem.
On that note how big of an issue is for you to have someone that contacts you maybe twice a month or sends constant texts every day even when you've told them you are busy that day?
That's a complex one. My work schedule is weird, and I work 12 hour shifts. I might see someone in person every other weekend, at first. If things go well, I could definitely arrange more time.
I don't think a couple phone calls per week is out of the question, and a text or two each day would be nice. Of course, I know things come up, and life happens, but barring extreme circumstances, I don't think these expectations are absurd.
Also consider that I am twice your age. I don't deal with the insecurities of a lovesick tweny-something, and I don't need constant validation. I've also been through breakups. I know I will survive on my own.
Text daily. Phone when mutually convenient. Try to get together at least one full weekend a month, preferably two.
That's how it worked when I was dating a guy from near Leeds (just over 70 miles away.) Unfortunately, he was closeted and leading a double life. I often found that family and even friends took precedence over us spending time together, because the two weren't allowed to mix. It got to the stage where we hadn't seen each other for nearly 8 weeks. Helping his friend fit some double glazing was more important.
No matter what the distance, I think there should be some (electronic) communication almost daily. Even if it's just to say 'Morning!' There does need to be an understanding that the other party might not reply right away if they're busy, but as a minimum, I would expect some communication almost every day, and start questioning whether it was actually a relationship if that wasn't regularly forthcoming.
Twice a week seems fair. Either on the weekend, or whenever you both find the time.
There's a lot of factors that go into it, but I'll say this, I'm an introvert, and dating one can be tough.
Solitude is where the introvert thrives, but loneliness and depression also live there.
Some people have a hard time getting out of their shell, sometimes it takes a warm invite to make it happen.
But any good relationship should ebb and flow with little resistance.
Lots of resistance is often a sign of disinterest. ...or a selfish person.
Quality over quantity for me. I'm not afraid of what I can't see or hear.
I'm not one to text just for the sake of texting (beyond a hey howya doin). I could maybe put up with some idle texting throughout the day, if it's not excessive and there's some communication value there. But if it's a bunch of texting just to text, it gets old fast.
One ritualized phone call per day gets the job done nicely. Not even necessarily once daily, either--i could be okay with as little as once per week, depending on what's going on schedule and relationship-wise. Sometimes even a daily call gets boring and feels like a chore because you have nothing new to say.
Im inclined toward longish emails. I'm a better writer than speaker, so it suits me. This doesn't work for everyone--even not many, I'd say.
I adapt to others' proclivities as far as I am able and comfortable, and I appreciate the same consideration. If you don't take notice of my patterns and preferences, you are probably not for me. If you take notice but make no motion to accommodate in any way, you are probably not for me. I also speak freely about what I want and don't want.
If you're going to lose interest in me or cheat, I want you to get it over with so I can find out and we can stop this and move on. I don't want to try to keep you on the hook or faithful against your own inclination, by forcing a bunch of communication that has an agenda. Not that I think my texts or calls or emails would be very effective to that end. If you think you need to keep me on the hook or faithful with forced communication, you're definitely not for me.
I don't tend to get lonely or clingy, so waiting is usually not a problem for me.
I feel like you said a lot of what I think about communication in relationships better than I ever could. If someone texts me and I give them my attention I want it to be about something, why do people text just to text? I'm not going to forget someone exists if they don't remind me every hour.
I think if someone texts or calls less than every other day that's not a relationship. I understand people get busy but it takes less than a minute to send a good morning text or how was your day. If you don't have time to be in a relationship then don't make the other person feel bad because they are trying to be. If someone acts uninterested I will move on.
I feel if you're in a relationship with someone, a romantic, passionate love relationship, there are certain assumptions you can make:
You're interested in each other
You want to have contact
From your post, it's difficult to tell how deep your relationship(s) was/were, but it could be that you just weren't that into them and therefore perceived their regular contacts as being clingy. For me, especially in the early stages of a relationship with someone I'm excited about, there is a great deal of communication/contact. I was also in a 15 year marriage and there was daily email and text contact and none of it was considered clingy.
If you told me (the person you presumably care about) not to text because you're busy, I would perceive that as a sign of disinterest. IDK if this helps or not. Hope so. =]
Thanks for the feedback. I'm happy to clarify about what bothered me with the clingy guy.
The constant texting didn't bother me on normal days it was the constant texts on my best friends birthday when I told him I wouldn't be available and the whining that I wasn't texting him more when I had gone to see family I only get to see twice a year and told him ahead of time I couldn't talk much.
I still considered having to talk every day a bit clingy just because I don't feel the need to talk with anyone everyday single day, but I do think that's better then being ignored and if he had respected the two times in our relationship I had asked for space it wouldn't have been an issue.
@RavenGreer Yeah, that's clingy! That additional context is very helpful. Thanks! =]
There are countless variables. Here is my pretend situation. By "relationship," that means we are in a committed, exclusive relationship and we've been seeing each other six months, we do not live together, nor work together. We live 35 miles apart. We have a similar work schedule.
1-4 total overnights together (at both homes) per week - obviously taking LIFE and mounds of stuff that would alter this into consideration.
1-2 phone "nothing is up" calls per week - obviously taking LIFE and mounds of stuff that would alter this into consideration.
1-2 texts per day (obviously getting into a conversation leads to more texting) - obviously taking LIFE and mounds of stuff that would alter this into consideration.
Either extreme of the above would be a red flag for me. See them less than twice a week without a good reason? Nope. Phone calls I could live without. Less than 7 total texts per week? Nope. Won't do.
Calling me at work every day to just hang on the phone and chat -- no please.
Texting me every hour. I'm getting a tad claustrophobic.
Not being able or willing to spend a night or a Saturday apart -- even though we are both free and available -- now I can't breathe.
For me, I need to know I am extremely important to my partner. But, I cannot be the ONLY person or thing important to my partner. Nothing will cause me to create distance faster.
I think that sound pretty reasonable, though I don't understand why people want to be texted daily I could live with it.
For the guy that was distance, we had been together for about 5 months and he lived maybe 5mins away. We saw each other maybe 8 times in that 5 months and maybe said hello online once a week, pretty much no texting. It was really annoying as I feel by 5 months I ought to know someone pretty well and he was practically a stranger. I wouldn't have put up with it so long if the time we did spend together hadn't gone so well.
@RavenGreer Just please tell me you are no longer seeing him. 8 times in 5 months is is basically bullshit and whatever excuses he made, he lied. Trust me.
I am certainly not still seeing him. I sent him a message causally pointing out I hadn't gotten to see him in about a month and didn't respond for 3 days only to flat out tell me that he ignored that message for 3 days because it made him angry that I 'didn't understand' that he was busy. He worked a lot at a local restaurant that is seriously all he claimed to have going on at the time. I broke up with him on the spot. Tried to get me back a month later, but I don't move backwards once it's done it's done.
Nightly phone calls were crucial for me. Had a long distance relationship/marriage for 10 years.
Clingy can be a problem especially if you are basically an independent person. It drove me crazy. Especially when he would call me and insist on knowing just exactly where I was when I was not home to answer the phone. Distant is an enigma to me. It’s kind of “why bother”. I think you might think about how you would like the relationship to be. Work on that and then enjoy. Good luck. I hope you find what makes you happy......and your partner.
The very first time I heard "Where were you and why didn't you answer the phone when I called?" is the precise moment I would say "I believe this is where we both acknowledge that we are not a good match and end our happy little love affair." I have zero room in my life for that kind of insecurity and possessiveness.
Ultimately, I think it just depends on the person. Some people require more attention and some less...
What about you, @Adorkableme? When you are in relation, what level of texting, calling, seeing each other works? How much doesn't work?
If in a relationship? I want to talk to them daily and I don't think that's clingy. Once or twice a month doesn't constitute a romantic relationship to me. I have friends I hear from 30+ times a day. If I'm intimate with someone, they can drop a DM a day, I think.
Follow your heart and do what's right for you.
Steve, what is right for you in the seeing, texting, calling realm during relationship? I like seeing other people's points of view too -- not just the original poster's. I suspect there are other weirdos like me out there too.
I always take into consideration the likes and desires of my partners. Some like more contact, some are okay with the occasional check-in. And sometimes, it gets crazy. Like when 3 or 4 want to text/IM at the same time. That's always fun. I'm not a great fan of phone conversations, and my friends take that into consideration. So when one of them calls me, I know it's something that needs more than texting can provide. And in the rare times I call one of them, they know it's important to me and/or I really need to talk about something.
Not easy to answer but here goes. I would not want to text or phone all the time without exception as it has and does piss me right off even if someone else does it who is out for a meal with. the flip side depends I think on how much we care about each other or have known each other. I like to be spontaneous so there isn't set times but if I love someone I just wouldn't leave it weeks but contact them when mostly there's something to actually tell them or to see if they're ok. my mums 86 and I ring her every morning but I didn't use too. I think personally there can be way too much and way too little but it would depend on the individual and your relationship with them. sorry if that's a crap answer. is a stalker just someone you don't like?
Well it kinda depends on what other things draw upon your time. If you don't get to see them in person, then texting or calling is fine.
In a new relationship there is a lot to talk about, learning about each other.
I don't think there is a specific number, but it is important that you give the other person space when it comes to your expectations. I generally don't require any immediate response to text messages, just my way of sharing what's going on.
If the other person doesn't have the time to text or call back very often, it can just mean that they are busy, so give them a break.
Red Flag- People who get mad when you don't respond right away, or demand a certain level from you when you don't have time or energy for it.
If you need an immediate response, say so, or just pick up the phone and call the old fashioned way.
Why haven't you called me back?? Lol
@AdorkableMe 'Cuz I see you every day! And I am at work.
Everyone is different. I personally like to at least exchange an email or text daily. It only takes a few minutes of your time and honestly, if you don't care about them enough to spare a few minutes each day, then what's the point?
As I said though, everyone is different. I personally am an affectionate person, I enjoy cuddling and holding hands. The physical contact is a huge part of why I want to be in the relationship in the first place.
I personally would try to visit once a week. Sending messages throughout the week with moderation of course it depends on the situation. I would try not to smother the woman I chose to date so that she doesn't feel I'm dependant.
The issue becomes apparent when something changes. If the woman I'm dating starts all of a sudden texting me every day,all day then I will be worried she doesn't trust me. Vice versa with almost ghosting me, I'll feel like I can't trust her. Otherwise if the situation isn't something I want to worry about I'd ask her to change or come to a compromise