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My supervisor at the 'day job' fairly abruptly resigned from her supervisory position in January,... claiming she was getting ready to retire and wanted to slow down. I was 'voluntold' that I (as easily next most senior and relatively competent) that I would be taking over as supervisor, and (in fact) would be her supervisor in the interim.

I've never wanted to be a supervisor btw - although in brief stints at it before I'm not terrible at it.

I've been finding out over the last week the real story why she is leaving the supervisory position,... and it's not quite the same story I was told & now I am going to have to try and 'gently' unmake a couple of messes she made the last year that I was otherwise unaware of,..... And most importantly - that she has made for herself with our collective bosses,...

Any advice as to how to try and supervise a former - at least marginal - boss with a big ego and declining skills while not offending her AND while getting the job done?

KurtZeller 5 Mar 2
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When I worked in a publishing company my direct supervisor was demoted and I took his place. It was a bit uncomfortable at first, but then I realised he really didn't want the responsibility that's why he was demoted. We worked as a team and I would divy up the workload, I take a little more than I would give him and always tell him what I was doing as well as what I wanted him to do that way it seemed more like we were sharing, I wasn't dictating.

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T tasteful,
A adroit, and
C controlled
T telling

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I was once leader of about 40 people who for various reasons could no longer climb around the submarines, and a huge list of work that needed doing. I firmly believe everyone can do something, and they are happier doing something they feel good about. it was my overriding responsibility to find out what that was. Good luck

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I have no advice to offer, but I wish you good luck.

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I would respectfully bring her in on those things that need to be fixed and work with her to fix them.

That's kind of the working plan paul. The database she's been stuck on is potentially useful - it's just that she's gotten so focused on making in perfect and all-inclusive that she's lost sight of what it was supposed to do and why we get her started working on it to begin with.

Goal one for the remainder of the quarter is to help her get the core pieces (what we really needed anyway) rolled out and tested as an online resource. Then we'll consider the project essentially done, and attempt to get her started working on something else.

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Damn... That's a tricky situation.
How far out is she until retirement?

This may sound just a little cruel in some ways...
But I would assign her remedial tasks that she couldn't possibly screw up.
And if she asks...
Respond by saying something along the lines of "You've done this for a long time. I want you to take it easy as you coast into retirement. You deserve it."

She claims a year or two out from retirement - which seems about right relative to Medicare eligibility.

And she's not completely useless - the biggest problem is that we work in a science & technology area & her core skill sets are a decade or more from what we are focusing on now. There is going to be a need for her & us to get her up to speed & we're going to need her to buy into doing so.

I don't want to sound harsh about this - as my ability to do some of the newest things in the lab end is a bit dated now as well. My lab technician does almost all of the actual bench work now on my projects as well & I focus on project management & data analysis.

It's just going to be challenging & more so than I was initially led to think.

Nice!!!!

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The people you will be supervising are the ones you need to worry about - this is the crew that will be getting the job done.
This could be a good learning experience, of course you are now aware of certain truths and that is a plus. Stay professional, keep emotions and ego out of it and get the job done as rapidly and error free as possible. Keeping the bosses above you informed will be to your advantage but don't brown nose. Good Luck.

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Do the toilets need cleaning ? ......lol

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On the one hand, it's true that offending her is not your primary concern, this is now your career and your new boss will not take "I didn't want to offend her" as an excuse for not getting the job done.

On the other hand, good man management skills are a MASSIVE benefit to your skill set. This would be an ideal learning opportunity, asking for advice is definately a good move, don't be afraid to ask for advice from people you admire and more experienced people in your organisation.

My old boss had terrible man management skills, my new boss is the complete oposite.

My only advice is to remain professional at all times, personal feelings and reactions will end in disaster.

The one good thing here is my group's overall Director & his Supervisor both know & admit they have dropped me into a mess I didn't make.

At least I have that going for me? ????

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Dunno, don't care.

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Will she be making any contributions to the organization or just sucking the air out of the room? My experience tells me that she has little useful to offer from now on, and paying her for a few months of paid time off as a reward for years of service and for accrued vacations is probably the cleanest, least damaging way to end her time there. It's probably also the cheapest for the company.

I agree @Dick_Martin. Here's the door, here's your full entitlement and think yourself lucky that we are not suing you for the damage that you have done.

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Basically go along with her cover story, say you can see that the stress was getting to her and understand why she wanted to slow down, pass it off as burn out while cleaning up the mess and assign straight forward tasks to her with the instruction she is not to worry about anything else as it is now time for her to look after herself. Any time she starts interfering stick to that song sheet, cut her off at the pass and remind her that she has to look after herself and slow down.

Manipulative I know but she gets to save face and you get to get on with what you have to do.

Kimba Level 7 Mar 2, 2018

I second this.
No sense in making an enemy until you have to

@SherryMartin agreed here. Kimba & yourself that is. She is not useless just not a good supervisor & has been spinning her wheels for about 2 years too long trying to (or not to more likely) finish a pet project database. One of those things where because she's trying to make it a perfect capstone to her career - it just keeps expanding in scope, budget keeps expanding & it's never been rolled out.

Apparently one of my missions is to get her to stop, release what is done & then focus on part of another project I currently manage.

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Were I in your position I would be most concerned with getting the job done.
If She is offended by the new boss she can quit. Problems solved.

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Assign her tasks that keep her out of everybodies way, ask rather than tell her,
keep her busy hopefully productive, but where she can't stuff up.

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With good humor and tact, of course, which you have.

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I have no idea, but am impressed with your kindness. Very rare in the world of business.

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If you can assign her to specific projects to keep her out of your way... do it.

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