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Yep, its true ladies, I am 5'6". Not 6'0". Not even 5'8". And I realize that means that my character doesn't matter a damn because you think you might look stupid standing next to me in heels. Even women shorter than me don't want the guy who is 5'6". Why? Who the hell knows. Just don't freaking tell me that there are no nice guys out there because I AM ONE. Its just that you can't get past your heels long enough to realize that I could love you like no one else.

Kurt 4 Mar 31
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pretty much... heh 😀

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It's to bad there isn't a relationship status of "incel" on this site.

1of5 Level 8 Mar 31, 2019
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On the bright side, I hear that women love angry men. Women are complex in that they have a list like "tall dark and handsome", but most people don't realize that they have a master override switch for men with belligerent attitudes. Also, women just love alcoholics so I'm going to work on that part of myself now, think thx

Also @admin way to go on the "thin" error

Again, try being a 5'6" male in this environment, and then tell me how great your attitude is.

And did I make a mistake in thinking that, because I'm on an internet forum, I could be open and honest and show some frustration.

But its easy to use my frustration, say that makes it my fault, and get back to eating rice krispie treats.

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Get over yourself. A chip on the shoulder is obvious to all except the person with the chip.

I'm 5' 6" and never had an issue with relationships. My first wife was just over 6' and my current wife is 5' 10" and height has never been an problem.

Stop whining and take a serious look at how your post comes across.

Have a cookie for being happy. I'm glad you found happiness. Tell me that you wouldn't be frustrated if you were in my place. And its clear that attitude has little to do with it, because I don't get the opportunity. I'm 5'6", remember?

Lets see....you tell me that you've never had problems in your relationships, and then you tell me about the two times you've been married.

How my post comes across? I'm expressing frustration about a challenge, not trying to hit on anybody.

@Kurt Maybe you missed the bit where I said that I am 5' 6". Height has never been an issue when I was single and nor has it ever been relative to any break up of a relationship.
Your height is not important. Your attitude is.

@Uncorrugated so you've never been frustrated and had the nerve to express it? In truth, you have no idea what my attitude might be, nor i yours. For whatever reason, however, your first post was hostile and unhelpful. Well, I guess this is the internet. Still, I am shocked to find the of people in this thread and elsewhere who take just a few sentences that I've written and have the ego to suppose that they know me. How do you know I wasn't in the middle of a horrible day and uncharacteristically blew off some steam?

Your most recent response is much more helpful, and I thank you for it. I am glad you have not had the experiences that I have had. But the fact that you didn't have my experiences doesn't mean that my experiences weren't real. It is disappointing that you then fall back on your critique of my "attitude," which (I hope you will admit) in fairness you have precious little evidence to use for that purpose.

Do you really think that none of my points are valid, or in some way accurately reflect my experiences? Do you really think that I'm just a jerk who doesn't realize how good he has it?

@Kurt Your original post opened with the assumption that women will think they will look stupid - a rather derogatory assumption that implies women find a mans height more important than his personality.
You then and fuel to the fire by adding "Its just that you can't get past your heels long enough to realize..." and you are surprised when others accuse you of having an attitude.

So no, on the information you have made available, I don't think your points are valid, but they probably do reflect your experience. And no, I don't really think that you're just a jerk who doesn't realize how good he has it? I don't believe you have it so good, but you do appear to come across as a jerk.

Have a read at your post again and have a think about how it will be percieved by others and have a look at the other responses on here - you are in a minority of one of people who think that height is a defining factor in relationships.

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I have found, all my life, especially in the halcyon days of platform shoes, hordes of short guys panting in my trail.....love me a confident man!

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Who gives a shit about what women happen to think of your height? Or anything else about you for that matter? So long as you aren’t a pedoplile, a homophob, a rapist, a racist, a thief or a murderer, you don’t owe anybody an apology or an explanation for who you are. It’s time to stop being that “nice guy” you’ve been and start doing what you have to do to take care of your own needs.

If the rules of the game don’t work for you, then start playing by a different set of rules. If the women in your area won’t date you for what ever reason, then have your need for companionship and comradary met by hanging out with your buddies and have your needs for sex and intimacy met in other ways.

Take a little vacation. Hop on a plane and head to somewhere that meeting beautiful women is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel; Costa Rica, Moldova, Prague, Amsterdam, Thailand, the Dominican Republic, the Cheque Republic, Mexico....

There are many countries you can travel to where I promise your luck with women will change instantaneously. You’ll meet a ton of women who like men and have far fewer hang ups when it comes to sex than their American counterparts.

You happen to live in one of the worst countries, and even more unfortunate, one of the worst areas in that country for meeting women. The American Midwest might as well be Jupiter when it comes to meeting women unless you look like Jared Leto or have more money than the Catholic Church.

Time to think outside the box.

Very interesting. Thanks for your thoughtful response. It is much more helpful than "get over yourself."

@Kurt

If you’re interested in learning more details about where to go outside of the US to meet women, just PM me and I’ll be happy to share.

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Also, if you are truly a nice guy you won't have to bring it up in whiny fashion. People will be able to distinguish you are nice without you having to say anything. Oftentimes it is the incels or misogynists, hostile towards all women for their dating failures, to highlight and bemoan their nice guy status. That's a red flag dude.

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I love that advice. Don't freaking tell me about being whiny when you have no idea what my journey has been like. Who do you think you are?

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I am going to be brutally honest now. If you are having trouble in the dating realm it is most likely your personality or attitude or lack of confidence that is the problem, not the height. Also, you are chasing girly women that are into wearing heels and are superficial in their tastes in men. Perhaps diversify the women you seek out or are attracted to. Perhaps the more athletic less girly type is a better fit for you.

All I know is what I'm told. Do I really only attempt to strike up a conversation with women who mention that they wear heels?

sigh No.

The heels were a metaphor in my original post.

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I'm 5'11" and there is still a lot of work to do in finding a compatible date. One less hurdle maybe. Who wants to date a shallow person anyhow?

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There are women that are not so superficial. My hubby was the same height as me and a smaller frame but who he was mattered and nothing else.
Some guys are the same way ....the woman must be shorter or have this and that blah blah blah.
But you will find many are not so narrow minded.

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Everyone is the same height laying down. My ex was 5ft 6". I'm 5ft 8

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