Why are there hardly any young people on this app? Does athiesm/disbelief appeal more to older people for some reason?
Most people who identify as agnostic or atheist take several years to reflect before establishing a set belief system. Atheists and agnostics are highly inquizitive individuals who contemplate what they do and do not believe as opposed to simply integrating the information which was fed to them by influential adults in their formidable years and sticking with it for their entire lives.
As an old technophobe I find it interesting that some people call this site an "app". To me it is a forum for discussing everything from religion to sexual perversions, and I believe a dating site as well.
Some new member posted a while back "this app is a snooze" ??. I really must get up to speed with modern English usage.
I think those who access the site via an icon on their phone or mobile device might consider it an app. I prefer the larger screen of my laptop, so I consider it a website. I can access it through my phone via the icon and still consider that to be the mobile form of the site. I would guess that anyone calling it an app is likely using a mobile device, rather than a computer, so it's a "apt" word I guess.
"App" is a catch-all word. It's confusing. Now my computer calls features like Windows Fax and Scan "apps." To find a program or feature, I must "Search apps."
What the hell? It's confusing.
On my smartphone, it turned out I needed to download an app to listen to voicemail. This used to be a built-in feature on cell phones.
"How do I access my voicemail?" I asked, frustrated, at the T-Mobile store. "You have to download an app," the clerk replied.
"Which app?" I asked. "Will you please download the correct voicemail app on my phone?"
She did it in five seconds. "Senior citizens are the only people who come in asking for help with their smartphones," she said unkindly.
@LiterateHiker Love it. I don't own a smartphone only an aging Blackberry because I like the little keyboard for texting. I'm ashamed to say I wouldn't recognise an app if I tripped over one.
Remember the Honda Element? And PTCruiser? And blue tooth wireless headsets? They were supposed to be designed for young hip urbanites. Instead, us old fucks bought them so kids avoid them like the plague. Old fucks ruin everything. Like presidential elections.
And voting the UK out of Europe. If there is another referendum maybe a lot of them will have died off in the three years since the last one
Being non-religious is far more common with young people, so they may not be seeking a refuge from religiosity as much as those of us from an older generation.
When I was in my twenties and thirties, I suffered much anguish and hatred from Christians who treated me like a leper because I wasn't Christian. Wouldn't let me be in the same room as their children, etc.
Years of that takes its toll on a person so that therapy such as this discussion site gives a much needed respite from the daily fears of persecution in our real life family and social groups.
I feel there are a Bunch of young people on here.....but maybe it depends on your "vantage point"...I am almost 71
Right on
maybe they look and just see a load of oldies chatting - like bars, you look for a place full of people like you
Young people are busy with Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, playing video games, Google, watching porn, etc.
As simple as this, my favorite answer!
I changed "having sex" to "watching porn."
It's sad that young men believe porn that degrades women is the way to have sex.
Thanks for the link to the article.
Young people are still getting together to have sex. I think the kids these days call it, "Netflix and chill". It's when you hook up with someone for sex and then watch movies or play video games between getting it on.
Then again, "Netflix and chill" may be old school terminology by now. It's hard for a wrinkly old raisin like me to keep up.
Thank you for your insightful reply.
Which book by Brene' Brown did you get?
"Wrinkly old raisin like me" is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.
Of course, you need to ask yourself why business as a couples counselor was going so well for you. If women really wanted men who understood intimacy, closeness and vulnerability then they'd be involved in relationships with men who understand those things and kicking the rest of the pack to the curb.
It seems to me as though the men who possess those traits don't tend to fair so well In the dating and mating game, being labeled with traits such as "pussy", "wet noodle", "wussy", "wimp", "nerd"..... The list goes on and on.
It isn't the quarterback of the football team sitting at home alone on prom night.
I would attribute current human dating and mating habits to left over remnants of the ancient hunter/ gatherer societies prevalent when we were living in caves and still being driven mostly by instinct.
When it comes to our dating and mating behaviors, we're still being driven mostly by the reptilian brain motivators which dictate that the physically strongest, most aggressive and brutish male members of the tribe represent the preferred mates because they are most able to protect and privide.
The fact that we've invented airplanes, toaster ovens and xbox and built ourselves fancier caves to live in doesn't change who we are at the core of our being.
Perhaps when you counsel couples it would be helpful to take in to account the base instincts which drive us as humans. It might help these folks to better come to grips with who they are and why they drift towards the relationships that they do.
I have never liked brutish, aggressive men. Jerks.
Instead, I am attracted to highly intelligent men with a great sense of humor. The mind is the greatest sex organ.
Am dating a medical doctor who is kind, patient, highly intelligent, funny and an extraordinary lover.
A competitive bicyclist, Bill is extremely fit and 10 years younger than me.
"You are my dream girl," Bill said recently.
"Am dating a medical doctor..."
Ah... money. The great equalizer.
While I will agree with you that, as in anything, there are no absolutes and that exceptions do exist, you still need to ask yourself why couples counselors do such a brisk business and one of the primary complaints of the woman in the relationship is that her partner is not vulnerable enough. Until you can come to grips with why the woman chooses the aggressive male over the sensitive one in the first place, I don't know that you can truly help couples to better understand each other or to manage their relationships.
In his plane, Bill flies me over the Cascade Mountains where I love to hike.
"Where do you want to go?" Bill asks. I love it!
Nice! Sounds like a blast.
Note to all younger guys just entering the dating pool....
If you're not the assertive or athletic type, put your nose to the grindstone and get rich. Really stinking rich. Become a successful doctor or architect or attorney or pick up a guitar and get really good at it.
That's the way you can even the odds in the dating game.
Sure I did. YOU are my supplied supporting data. You and every successful couples counselor who has purchased a weekend cabin at the lake or a top of the line Harley Davidson motorcycle with the fees they've collected from $120.00/hr. counseling sessions.
If we were talking about research in to the aspects of the human mind which allow us to formulate the mathematical concepts that explain particle physics, then yes it would require a more in depth discussion, complete with applied research and source quotations from experts in human brain physiology and psychology.
But we're talking about base behaviors here. The part of the human mind which functions purely on instinctive reactions developed over millenia of evolution.
So the question becomes, if x number of couples are seeking counseling, and y number of female partners in those relationships are complaining that their partners aren't demonstrating enough vulnerability and intimacy, then what core instinctive human behavior leads the female partner to choose a mate with such characteristics?
If couples counselors can answer and come to grips with that question, then they can do a much better job of helping couples to understand themselves and lead happier lives.
Attempting to add complexity where none exists accomplishes little. Human mating interactions are not complex. When it comes to this particular aspect of ourselves, we are still living in caves and hunting our prey by throwing rocks at it.
It seems to me as though we're running around in circles at this point, ToolGuy. There's really no point in moving forward with this conversation.
I believe that core, base instinct behaviors and reactions are set in stone and invariable. As far as I'm concerned, attempting to change base behaviors in romantic pairings rather than helping each partner to understand why they behave the way they do is an exercise in futility. It's attempting to pound square pegs in to round holes, and to me it falls in to the same classification as "so called" gay conversion therapy.
You clearly believe otherwise.
People can grow and change.
They may not see as much resistance to atheism as someone from a different generation. My adult children was raised without religion, their friends who are religious don't care. It rarely comes up. But in my generation it seems to be a problem, particularly in the south. They and I were raised in New England and was never really asked my religion. I've been in NC for 6 years and have been asked if I'm Christian about 6 times usually upon the first meeting. I simply say no, but one time a new co-worker wouldn't take that answer. She went through a couple of other religions asking if I belonged to one of them. I finally just told her I didn't believe in any. She was a bit shocked but did end up being a friend. I'm not sure if she truly understood I was an atheist but it doesn't really matter. I was raised Catholic and since your indoctrinated in that religion it can take a while to come to terms. I knew I didn't believe in a God in my twenties but could not refer to myself as an atheist for about 20 years.
Its because us old folks got here first and are constantly screaming at the kids here to get the fuck off our lawn. Then we turn on the sprinklers. Sorry, but we just reseeded it and you kids have no respect for the effort it takes us old farts to maintain a lawn both worth walking on and protecting from people walking on it.
See, life just gets tougher as you age.
What was the question, again?
Young people are more interested in getting laid.
So are half the users on this site. I'm not sure it's a really big difference