How closely tied are pride and confidence, in your opinion?
There are at least 2 meanings to confidence. One is confidence in one's abilities, as in "I will succeed at this". The other is confidence in one's intent, as in "this is what I want".
I have to go with not tied at all. I have pride in all my accomplishments and at the moment have zero confidence. I was thinking work related, and while my experience gives me confidence that I can do the work, if I had accomplished nothing at work there would be no pride.
I think pride is reactionary (as you have something to be proud of)
While confidence gives you the ability to achieve a certain goal TO be prideful about.
I'm not an English major but thats what it means to me.
(If reactionary is not a word sorry for beating up the English language)
I don't think they're necessarily tied. I can be proud of my kids without being tied to confidence. I can be confident I can fix something, without the baggage of pride. Maybe I'm wrong...
But possibly confidence is an antecedent to pride in some circumstances but not the rule, however I think they're separate qualities.
They can be tied, but not necessarily. Being confident in one’s own ability to do something well may result in a feeling of pride after the event. Pride can also be misplaced and to our detriment, when it can actually get in the way of asking or taking advice from others who may be in a position to do so. I think basically most people experience pride in achieving something that they have done well, whether or not they were confident in their ability to do so prior to undertaking it. Confidence usually comes with experience and does not necessarily lead to feelings of pride, rather just a knowledge that we are competent at doing something.
It is hard to say as the word pride has changed meaning over the centuries and is these days inextricably entwined with the word proud, with which it has no etymological connection at all but is used interchangeably with, especially between Proud and prideful.
Pryde or prȳte originally as has been pointed out elsewhere was a sin, akin to snobbery or epicaricacy, it meant to judge yourself by your possessions, success, wealth or natural attributes by comparing them favourably to other people and deriding those other for their presumed inferiority or misfortune.
It was considered in almost every society to be so despicable that it almost always was punishable by death.
Among the native Americans a warrior who was so prideful of his skills or possessions, would be taken, sown up in a sack with a skunk or wolverine and thrown in the river (some times his nose would be cut off first.)
Confidence on the other hand is a private thing, an understanding of ones own limitations and when not to exceed them.
Confidence is more closely tied to ineptitude than pride in most people, although one could argue that pride doesn't allow them to see thier own ineptitude.
It would vary from person to person. All individuals, all unique, blah blah blah - except where we're the same, of course.
It's funny how out of fashion modesty and humility have become. Pride was one of the deadly sins for a reason.
I think it depends on your definitions. Confidence, as a word, seems to retain its clear-ish definition, while pride has become muddied with good and bad connotation.
Truly high and deserved confidence can lead to no need for pride, if pride is defined in the bragging sense. But, truly high and deserved confidence is typically accompanied by pride in ones work/abilities (by a more pure/positive definition of pride).
Or perhaps pride is best defined as confidence we have in something outside of ourself (our work, our children), while confidence is ok to have in self.
Interesting ideas...lots of room for personal interpretation depending on personal definitions and emotional baggage attached to each.