U.S. House Chaplain Performs Exorcism To Cast Out Demons From Congress
What ever happened to separation of church and state? In a ridiculous display of religious superstition, U.S. House Chaplain Pat Conroy prays to cast out “spirits of darkness” from Congress.
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It seems like a small, ridiculous thing, but these small ridiculous things are becoming more and more common in this evangelistic dominionist mindset that republicanism ( or should I say, trumpism) is moving towards. Trump is sucking up to them to keep them in his base and they are making up excuses for his disgusting behavior to get what they want. It is all adding up to religion increasingly invading the government, which is an increasingly dangerous thing.
Wisewoman3
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July 21, 2019
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Superstition and magical thinking at the highest levels of government. No wonder there is lack of logic and reason in their decisions and lawmaking!
Marionville
Level 10
July 20, 2019
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As I read it, they weren't making laws about letting the chaplain casting voodoo spells on congress. "Respect" for religion as I read the passage means allowing a religious group to be part of the congress and engaging in law making.
WonderWartHog99
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July 19, 2019
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Well IT DIDN'T WORK ! The republicons are still there!
BitFlipper
Level 8
July 18, 2019
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We would be well off without a congressional chaplain, however, if you read the whole prayer you can see that the word “spirit” is not used to mean an evil supernatural being. Rather it refers to a level of thought, as in the “spirit” of science, etc.
All those Democrats could cast out the chaplain couldn’t they? The fact is that most of them are evangelicals and multimillionaires and are fully on board with religion.
WilliamFleming
Level 8
July 18, 2019
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Separation of church and state is well regarded idea, but not exactly law.
indirect76
Level 7
July 18, 2019
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@icolan That’s not the way I read it. Seems like it’s more about congress making no law respecting an establishment of a religion or restricting the practice of religion; nothing specific about a separation.
This article and the reaction of Person posting it is a perfect example of this.
@indirect76 The phrase "separation between church & state" is generally traced to a January 1, 1802, letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper. Jefferson wrote,
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties."
This is possible because of a recent Supreme Court decision saying prayers in legislative bodies are allowed because of historical precedence or some other baloney.
dare2dream
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July 18, 2019
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And... Why take the chance. Jesus might be real. 
@bigpawbullets That is called “Pascal’s wager”.
[en.wikipedia.org]
@bigpawbullets BTW, the answer to Pascal's wager is that is a false assumption and therefore rediculous.
To add more clzrity to the dizcussio. this is Pascal's Wager:
One can't possibly know if God exists, therefore;
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If you believe in God, and he exists, you are saved and destined for heaven
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If you don't believe and God truly exists, you are condemned to hell;
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If don't believe and he doesn't exist, no harm, no foul;
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if you believe and he doesn't exist, then all you've wasted is your time;
So the crux of Pascal's Wager is that you might as well believe, that way you are covered no matter what and the most you've donr is waste a little time and energy.
A mediocre way out.
Also associated with Pascal's Wager is:
Christianity is like a horse race. Out of the gate they all appear equally capable of making to the finish line first (aka. Apocrypha). Therefore, since all the owners (denominations) are sure their horse is the one that will come in first, and no real way to really know, hell just pick one and hope for the best (the Wager).
@t1nick Yes! That's it. Pascal's Wager. It has the false premise that there is a god.
What if we subtitute Pascal's god for the leprechaun god of an old Irish cult? Would a Christian apply Pascal's wager to renounce Jesus for the leprechaun god? I think the Xian would say that would be rediculous.
Same result no matter what. The premise doesn't change and the choices do not change. A medicre answer lacking in commitment regardless.
@t1nick
and All you'll be your entire life is a "fence-sitter"!
referring to Pascal's Wager...
???? To the best of my knowledge I've never been considered a fence sitter???? I made choice to be an atheists 45 years ago without hesitation or reservation
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