Do people just know know about this site? I mean there are a lot of atheists and agnostics, but the site has so few people. I wonder if some are still afraid to be "outed".
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A lot of people come and read and think but don't say anything. They observe, like scientists a rare, exotic species.
But considering the meteotic growth in agnostic thought, the numbers could be small. So what?
Many agnostics are not activist (or even ACTIVE) by nature and simply don't care about preaching their viewpoint. Or discussing it. Or arguing about it. They:re not motivated to find support for their opinions. Why bother?
Being new, many here still have conflicts and issues within THEMSELVES and their OWN world view and are trying to sort it all out. They're not sure WHAT to think. Once they are they might fade away.
Some come harboring a deep distrust, even hatred, for religious folk and want to break them, and are here to grow a "movement," as they see it.
Some are social and interactive and like the sense of community.
Me? I like, I hate, I scoff, I applaud, I remain silent, I speak up, I stay away, I'm fueled by a self-righteous fire, gentle bemusement, or detached indifference. Depends on which hour of which day.
As an agnostic I'm usually open to new ideas expressed by open-minded people. But like most of us I'm pretty sure I have it basically right.
It's an accident I'm here, but now that I am I'll probably never leave. I'm no hero and lie to others when advisable, or convenient, or imperative.
It's a realistic, pragmatic approach--often cowardly but I don't care--it works for me.
Storm1752
Level 8
Oct 12, 2019
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I like how you write in a pattern of three. Which is correct. Sometimes vanity can confuse the three in a pattern. A good guide line is in every situation everywhere, you have yes no and maybe other wise known as rock, soil and road. Humans measure digitally. Right, wrong. Four and five.
@Sameasis Interesting, because I just added, 'I speak up' to, 'I remain silent' and 'I go away.'
I also have noticed, speaking 'digitally,' an effective tool is to include both an idea and it's opposite in the same phrase.
For example, The Desiderata:
"Go placidly amidst the noise and haste," or
"Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time." Or,
"Speak your truth clearly and quietly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant...," or
"...in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace with your soul."
Dylan does the same thing, but I'll spare you.
As for the "pattern of three (Kennedys do that)" you say it's "correct." Is that in some book of rhetoric? Rock, soil, road? Yes, maybe, no? I strongly suspect so!
In any case, thank you for the compliment.
Fine lines.
For example and a reason I wrote four and five is to help illustrate how passive the interruption and inclusion has become, to not even notice its there. A clear example of the interruption is a digital example of three, is yes, no. Thru manipulation the maybe becomes marginalized, socialized and forgotten thru acceptance of its created being. The end result is a divisive reasoning based species which creates its own natural division/vanity/racism which it then debates and argues. Like a dog believing it will catch its tail on day. And the ground hod day becomes past present and future all in one.
It doesn't add to one but it looks like it does.
I found this site thru Facebook. "Outed"? This ain't a cult, ya know........
AnneWimsey
Level 9
Oct 8, 2019
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Some people don't want to be known atheists in their communities, especially in the south, it makes life hard on them. I used to be a member of many Facebook atheist groups, but they are toxic all on their own.
If you lived in the Bible belt you'd understand what that meant.
@gNappyHead So its a little harder, so what? [ Actually I am thousands of miles from the Bible Belt]
@Mcflewster Um . . . . ok . . . . .
The lady didn't know what being "outed" as athiest was. I was like oh, must not be as big a deal where she is. If she lived in the bible belt then, she would understand what that meant.
I don't understand the problem here.
@gNappyHead Sorry I am glad that we do not have a Bible Belt in the UK ----- unless someone knows different.
@gNappyHead I DO live in the bb. I'm completely "out" as an atheist.
People can only make it hard for you IF you let them.
Pretty damned cowardly to hide it, imo.
Then again, I don't give anyone power over me.
I do not live in fear of anyone.
@KKGator Ok That kind of seems like a very flippant way of dismissing many people with a variety of their own personal issues & complex lives.
But that a fine opinion I suppose, but empathy aside I literally was still only saying more or less that "it actually is a thing that exists after all"
@gNappyHead You can call it flippant if you like, that's your interpretation.
My point is that too many people are afraid of being who they are.
I don't carry that fear. I used to, but I haven't in a long time.
The fear of what "might" happen is usually always worse than whatever reality dishes up.
But hey, if people want to live that way, whatever.
@KKGator Well, let's hope & support that they all reach that same conclusion you did. For the better to themselves & for the better of us all as a people to finally step out of that looooong lingering shadow left over from the dark ages.
Even you admit that you "used to". We are all at different stages in our lives. We also all have our reasons (& excuses) for why we do the things we do, justified or not. Rather as an attempt to salvage relationships with family, to avoid waves in the work place, terrible social anxiety, or fears of character leverage in a custody case.
@gNappyHead I lived on the Ala-Ga. brder for 5 years during first marriage, why do you ASSume I do not understand?
@AnneWimsey Oh well . . . . just because you said "Outed?"
@gNappyHead the OP used that term, that's why it was in quotes.
I found it through a Facebook ad, and it was promoted as both a community and dating site. That was in 2017 and I haven't seen an ad there since then. While most people were interested in the dating aspect, I think an equal number were just thrilled to find someplace they could openly express their views among peers. In what sense do you find it to be so few people?
Lauren
Level 8
Oct 9, 2019
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I've suggested Agnostics.com to Atheist friends and they refer to it as a dating site and aren't interested. It isn't to me. It's discussion and information.
rogueflyer
Level 8
Oct 8, 2019
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I recommended this site to like 20+ people & specifically told them that it's all discussion not dating & still not a single one signed up.
@gNappyHead Yeah, they seem happily involved with facebook and fake stories. I haven't been on FB in over a year except when someone here links to FB for something. The way FB is set up it encourages fake BS news to be reposted.
I came across the site because someone in a polyamory Facebook group said it was a dating site that was open to poly. But I quit thinking of it as a dating site long ago and just see it as social media for various nontheists
PolyComrade
Level 6
Oct 10, 2019
5
It is the best of dating site. Ya just gotta do it.
I saw ads for this site on Facebook.
BitFlipper
Level 8
Oct 10, 2019
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Same
share this site. i can't stop telling people about this site . like they need to know
pattisabby
Level 4
Oct 10, 2019
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At least half my acquaintance are non-religious, but none of them has declared themselves to be atheists or agnostics as far as I know. It’s not that they are afraid of repercussions. The average person is not very interested in religious questions. The average person is only mildly interested in academics of any sort, and they view pronouncements of any kind of “ism” as expressions of ego. They are more interested in sports, and don’t feel qualified to make grand pronouncements about reality. They simply don’t know and haven’t given such questions much thought.
Only a few people have bothered themselves with analyzing religious questions, and even fewer have the brass to make a public declaration of their grand findings.
WilliamFleming
Level 8
Oct 9, 2019
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Unfortunately, Atheists are one of the few groups who are deemed throughly unelectable in the US. Unless someone wants to permanently ruin any potential political career, they ought best to pretend and deny any association with atheists, on account of over half the country would be unwilling to vote for someone on grounds they were atheist or agnostic.
[people-press.org]
Happy_Killbot
Level 7
Oct 9, 2019
2
This is spot on!
Having been an agnostic since 1959, I really don't give a sheeeit who knows. I like living an authentic life. I am who I am. Once I recovered from my childhood religious conditioning, there ain't no way I'm going back into that dark hole. As far as being "outed," I love wearing my Agnostic.com tee shirt. So far, nobody has mentioned it. I imagine most of the unfortunate indoctrinated people don't even know the meaning of the word.
mischl
Level 8
Oct 9, 2019
2
I've wondered that myself a little. The posts that get the most attention seem to be man/woman or social/political. In spite of the anti(? ) religion name, I've noticed that an awful lot of people treat this as a social site. Frankly I'm ok with that -- I enjoy living vicariously through their posts. Ha, ha.
I am a 'strong' atheist but I've never been much for proselytizing. I'll tell people my views if it comes up but I most often lurk and use the 'react' buttons rather than commenting (obviously I do speak up sometimes. Lol). I admit that I don't tell a lot of people about the site -- mostly I just don't have many people too be in a position to tell about any site. Lol.
RichCC
Level 8
Oct 9, 2019
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I found this site while perusing dating apps. I don’t personally know anyone else using this site — or who’s even aware of it.
Apunzelle
Level 7
Oct 10, 2019
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Dunno. I'm not in a health position to date so like to read the more intelligent posts, skipping religious comments.
At first I protested, advising newbies to skip the religion rants, since they're preaching to the choir, but it made little difference, so now I just move on to another post if religion is mentioned.
birdingnut
Level 8
Oct 9, 2019
1
Yeah those posts do get rather tiresome don't they.
@Rob48 Sorry..you're right. I went through those same stages..relief at being able to vent, then gradually shifted into annoyance at how people obsessed about religion and acted like anything about it mattered to anyone. I simply choose the posts I want to respond to, now, and avoid annoyance.
@Rob48 As with most things, I forgot what it was like in the beginning.
Looking at the site stats, just over 100k members have signed up for the site since it was created in late 2017. I think it was pretty typical for it to have 450+ people logged on at any given tike. The site was advertised as a dating site and i think quite a few people joined with very specific interests in that area- but there werent enough members to make it work. People left because of that, plus there was lots of in fighting snd cliques. As far as i know, theres been no new advertising for the site, and theres less than half as many members logged on at a time.
Burner
Level 6
Oct 9, 2019
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Many probably find it by accident, like I did!
davknight
Level 8
Oct 10, 2019
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I googled atheist and agnostic to find it.
My father was an atheist. I don't have to wear on my sleeve though.
- it's not the important. It's not something I base my life on.
- I don't want hurt others fellings
- I don't like their religious arrogance any more than atheistic arrogance.
- There is no 4. and mostly 2 and 3 don't matter either because it's not that important.
morlll
Level 7
Oct 10, 2019
2
Same
Hide behind a avatar & screen handle & use a VPN to hide your IP. Hopefully nobody will find out who you are
Remiforce
Level 7
Oct 9, 2019
1
Why be afraid of being either Atheist or Agnostic, they don't burn us these days anymore since the Churches have become, slowly, a kind of Toothless Tiger?
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