you’re very lucky then

Most of the persecution I received was decades ago, so has stayed with me, but also taught me to avoid certain people, places and things that caused the anguish. There was ongoing persecution in my condo building that only ended 2 years ago, and so I'm thankful for that. If these results are compared to results from years ago, it might indicate an acceptance of secularism and less stigma attached. I hope that is the trend, but in some circles, it's likely gone backward.

These types of surveys are conducted about religious people, so why not non-believers too? What's the harm in doing this type of research? And if you haven't read the research methodology or analysis or (null) hypothesis, why conclude it is dumb research?

@TheMiddleWay
I agree
I took the survey just for giggles but it’s super biased and zero control
It’ll show the results they want but it won’t have any merit

@TheMiddleWay well social science research adheres to different research standards than the hard sciences do... so there is no control group needed in social science research. However I agree with your other critiques... the researchers should probably have used a professional market research company that tracks IP addresses or emails and only allows a person to do one survey and to be over 18. As for lying, that can happen in any research based on ideologies, because how do we prove what ideology a person has, short of reading their minds? Hell national census bureau data can all be false as much of it relies on self-reporting and in the hopes the person is being honest.

@demifeministgal

Yeap.

I have made a mental note to write a book explaining a concept that advances on Science, in part for that reason. Statistics became Data Science, and so on. So it's time for Science to upgrade, too.

@demifeministgal

Because the surveys get used as political tools. If they can get updates on the new condition of the politically subject (which is almost every person in our country), then they know exactly how to blind, distract, harvest, rob, coerce, etc. the people into mass compliance. This process tends to, for each of those, have varying levels of blatance.

We get told a lot. We have a lot displayed to us. We are punitively expected to make certain assumptions by our peers, in all places known. But we have very little proven and shown to us.That is the EXACT reason why these surveys are wrong. We get treated like inmates, and like property, in part because of these systemic mechanisms.

@TheMiddleWay

Exactly. That was spoken like a TRUE INTELLIGENT PERSON OF LIBERAL SENSIBILITIES.

Surveys yield as much politicking as they do research. We, all selves, are precious bodies with spirit and we get shackled because of authoritarian pricks who think they can decide our life purpose, tell us what to think, along with to tell us whether we deteriorate or not.

@demifeministgal

I would be careful about putting a critiqueing eye to people's ideology. Regardless of what someone is taught, there are always going to be really good takeaways from their sources. For example, I could sit with a normal, average level economics textbook (for example, that one practical joke of an economics book by Gregory Mankiw) and whine about how stupid Keynesian economics is, but what would I learn, what does that do for my SELF, others, etc. ? It's a waste of irreversible time, and energy. It's just more of playing the fool, and being taken for a ride. You really do NOT want that.

Strength in Numbers consulting
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An official scientific report that will be published in the spring of 2020, on discrimination of secular and non religious persons.

Yes, it is anonymous.

That would be good to know, but who cares? If they're only nosy religious creeps then at least they might read my point of view and get a clue.

It's American Atheists, a bonafide organization. And definitely anonymous. It really is just asking how we feel we are being treated, if we identify as atheist, agnostic, non-religious, humanist, etc. I think it's just to understand the group better who have no religious affiliation.

I really had to think a bit on many of the questions, because though I've been treated poorly in the past by religious folks finding out that I'm not religious, some of the questions are narrowed down to the past 3 years, or some other designated time frame. It made me realize how far acceptance of secularism has come over the decades, since I came out long long ago!