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Are there songs that have distinct religious messages or even religious overtones that you like anyway? I think many songs i heard in church were beautiful. Even songs on the radio such as Spirit in the Sky.

Tinocca 7 Nov 3
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I think there are melodies that connect wIth us on a pre-historical basis, that have little to with us In a modern basis - simply put, they just sound good🙂

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Morning has broken. We give words and music power or not. Religious music can have different meanings. I do not believe it should be forced on us but I am not hurt by the word god or Jesus.

I’ve been trying to reach you, but your profile doesn’t seem to allow private messages - perhaps you could send a message?

I have always loved that song. See the video of it I posted below.

I think there is a part of us that parts of us that accepts (or is in tune to) certain musical phrases/chord sequences in a meaningful way.

@Haemish1 i did send you a message. Let me know if you get it.

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And representing the atheists: Steve Martin

Love it!

Ah, but I think we had at least ONE, John Lennon's great hit song, " Imagine."

@Triphid ah, how could I forget that! Beautiful addition to the discussion. Thanks.

@Tinocca Maybe we also add to the list songs like;
"Always look on the Bright side," from the Life of Brian, and,
"Saltwater" and "Imaginary Lines" by Julian Lennon as well just to name a few.

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Amazing Grace, Joan Baez, 1991. Golden Gate Park.

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Haven’t heard this one in years. Nice blast from the past.

@Tinocca It's got some good guitar.

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I enjoy some music even if it is God-focused, though other God-focused music I do not enjoy. I think a God theme bothers me more with some other art forms (novels or movies for example) but with music, I'm not very big on words compared to the music, and even if I pay attention to the words, I sometimes am able to "suspend disbelief" as to what is inspiring the artist and (more) enjoy simply how inspired they are. A good example is the Amazing Grace double album of live gospel by Aretha Franklin, from the early 1970s.

Also, you didn't ask this, but the flip side of this coin is I do not automatically like some atheist-themed music. I don't know if this is because I don't pay much attention to lyrics, or for some other reason. Also, I was not raised Christian, so there are not as many issues there for me as to just taking it in and enjoying the music. To me it's sometimes just kind of exotic, and with attractive sing-along qualities, and wonderful harmonies, and great mastery of certain instruments.

Yes, if I really sit around and analyze it, I am conflicted about enjoying God-oriented music, but I've spent too many years more or less enjoying certain music fully to let this stop me.

A side-point, but much of what I know of Christianity is from listening to (and enjoying) the music for Jesus Christ Superstar, and watching the movie a few times (though I will say I don't enjoy the movie or show as much, more just the album, and there are times or ways in which I don't like it... it's just hard for me to resist the genius of Andrew Lloyd Weber.

kmaz Level 7 Nov 3, 2019

Agreed. Music can lift me up, regardless of the lyrics. And sometimes, the most uplifting notes are written with religious thoughts sung to them. I still do enjoy them. It is different with books or movies. They can all too easily slip into preachy, judgmental tones and that is unappealing.

I think Jesus Christ Superstar is more of a parody of the biblical story. A satire.

Hi @Storm1752

I can't agree, and I've never seen anyone else put forth that idea. A parody or satire to me would be more something like Life of Brian. I'm not entirely sure what Webber, Rice and any others who might have been involved had on their minds, and it is certainly possible that they had a more secular concept in their minds than some viewers might want to believe (I really don't know) but (even if true) this is quite a bit different to me than saying they were trying to make fun of the Christ story, .... for humor at the expense of believers, which is what "parody" or "satire" would imply to me.

I think the reason I"m writing out my disagreement is that I really did dislike the story when I saw it live. A parody, if well done, or done in a certain way, might really have been enjoyable to me, but the actual story, if it takes itself seriously and if the audience is asked to take it seriously, was such a downer to me, and part of the reason for that was not just the obvious death aspect, but the mixed reaction I have about those parts where I'm apparently supposed to draw some inspiration.

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Kum ba yah (Come By Here) was a lovely spiritual sung by west African slaves on Islands off the coast of Georgia. Later it was commandeered by hippies and sung around camp fires.

And Michael, row your boat ashore.

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Blue Oyster Cult "Don't fear the Reaper" always liked this song.

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One of my favorites, by Tom Waits, God's Away on Business.

Tom Waits is one of my all time favorites.

I’ll have to check this out. I’ve never heard it before. Thanks for the input.

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Yes, and oddly enough they really mostly Christian songs, and I have never been Christian. I love klezmer music and that reflects my heritage but it isn't religious music except once in a while it is celebratory of a festival. But why should I like amazing grace or riu chiu or gaudete or Noel Noel, or when I can read my titles clear or I'll fly away? Because they sound good! Hey, does anyone here feel guilty listening to puff the magic dragon or songs from Finian's rainbow or who's afraid of the big bad wolf? Didn't think so!

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I pay less attention to the words rthan the music.

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Hallelujah is many miles away from being any kind of religious song. Listen to the words

twill Level 7 Nov 3, 2019

Yes very true; it does, however, use some Christian allusion to demonstrate a relationship flaw.

It talks about the Lord. That is a religious reference.

@Gwendolyn2018 true

@Gwendolyn2018 , twill mentioned it was not a religious song. I was clarifying why I put it in the category of my original post. I was including any song that brings religion into it at any level.

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Thanks. The song is enjoyable, but wow. That version of heaven sounds terrible to me. “Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.”? No thanks. Even if it is a kiss that goes on, I’d want there to be mare variety than the same thing for eternity.
No thanks on that idea.

@Tinocca Its biblically sound . . . 🙂

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Ok, enough of the soundtrack of my life BS
Who among the other old fucks out there wants to hear what the youth are saying?
Many my age loose that desire for new music favoring nostalgia.
I am not among those, I like both

Tell me who does not agree with this message?

Love it!

@Tinocca I do too, and its things like that which give me hope. I grew up in a revolution, bombings every week, assasinations all over, a war which touched us all because of the draft, but all that social energy fizzeled before I was old enough to fully participate, and instead it became the "I, me, me Mine" reality of the 80's, which George foresaw . . .

@Tinocca The same Band also did this song, which I envision as a march on washington song.

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Rid me of the problem
Do all that you can
Keep me in a daydream
Keep me going strong
You don't want to save me
Sad is my song

This is in my Top 5 list of favorite songs of all time. It is perfection!

@Tinocca thats a great album.Nostalgia express . . .

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Of course there is this classic Faith+1:

I was wondering when South Park would arrive to the list. Lol thanks!

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Hear, how about this? What kind of music do you like?

Wow, this is incredible! I was enjoying the vibe of it right from the first notes. I really like her voice, so rich and soulful. Then I actually hear the lyrics and they make it even better. It’s not mocking or satirical. It is boldly pointing out what theists think about atheists and what big misconceptions exist.

I’ve never heard this song before. I think it is brilliant musically and lyrically.

I like a wide variety of musical genres, from classical to standards to oldies to disco and pop. Bluesy soul is a favorite of mine.

Thank you for introducing me to this gem.

@Tinocca Always been a big music fan (Disco still sucks), lol, I was more into Rock/Punk during disco, fully on the other side of that social climate.

Blues fan mostly, but I like anything of merit, good musicians, highly skilled, meaningful lyrics
Genres be damned, (who makes those up anyway, producers?)

This is religious, if your a traditionalist Mongol . . .

@Davesnothere I liked the music in this video. I prefer traditionalist Mongol to the Mongols Motorcycle Club. I was foreperson on a jury for Mongols just a year ago. We learned about many murders and drug dealings committed by gang members.

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The message that "Spirit in the Sky" always had for me is that regardless of religious beliefs we all knew there was a "spirit in the sky." Even though I liked the song the day came that I no longer believed it.

Exactly. I don’t believe the words to be true in these songs, but the music is still enjoyable.

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Thanks. Still not a Jethro Tull fan. Never cared for their sound or messages.

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A classic I never get tired of.

Wonderful. Thanks.

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This one--got me through some rough times, even though I was not religious.

Good song. Apparently this was from a dream Paul had when he was heavy into drugs. His mother Mary came to him and said let it be, it will be okay. He decided to stop using drugs and wrote this song from the experience.

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I liked early Underoath's stuff quite a bit. Also, there are great blues songs that may be dipped in some Christianity, but it never ruins the song for me. I'm able to look past the specific meaning and come up with my own.

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'Spirit In The Sky', sucks big time! Check out, 'In The Upper Room' by Mahalia Jackson

Lord Almighty, can she sing. That is exquisite. Thanks for the recommendation. I enjoyed it immensely.

@Tinocca Glad that you liked it. Have some fun, it ain't no sin. 😈

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AC/DC highway to Hell, just as religious as stairway to heaven.

I knew there were some big ones I was forgetting. Thanks for including them.

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I actually prefer the religious parodies...

This one was hysterical. Nice choice.

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