We are atheists and agnostics. Why are we being bothered with this crap?

The only thing that exists after life, is death... The afterlife is death... Understand?

Meeting up with loved ones in heaven. Just what age would everyone be? Would you be a young you still at home? Or an older you? Would your parents be in their thirties or sixties?

I would say you are in the right frame of mind . . . neither position is provable, and as Warf, from Star Trek the Next Generation AKA Gene Roddenberry once said "Thinking about what you can't control only wastes energy . . . and creates its own enemy."

I have added a picture of an artist depicting the new heaven, new Earth, new city of Jerusalem that the book of Revelations explains will land out of the sky on to Earth replacing the old Jerusalem.

It is like 1,500 miles cube, if I remember correctly.

In a few billion years, scientists explain that the Sun will explode or expand into a red giant star burning up everything on Earth.

I do not try to rain on any ones parade in their after life expectations.

Back when I was in the before life all non-existent waiting on life, I didnt expect this crap of an existance. So, to be non-existent with non-existent flying spaghetti monster sky God is all fine with me.

Well, you could research how people like Harry Houdini & The Amazing Randy tried to establish something like that with Big $$$$$, and it failed. And think about how feeling nothing & knowing nothing is pretty peaceful. And how Xian heaven involves singing "hosannas" 24/7/365 for Eternity which frankly I find repellent & creepy.....

You don’t have to make up your mind right now or ever.

Just think about life after death in the same way that you thought about life before you were conceived.

I suggest you put your effort in becomming comfortable with the unknown. After all, uncertainty is the only thing you can depend on.

What is the basis of your belief?

I struggle with this also because I know their are spirits and ghosts. I tend to lean toward hell is here and we're have to try and learn the lessons we should learn. If we don't learn them, we have to keep coming back until we do. But I don't believe in a biblical heaven either.

Wait, I'm confused. You got over 70 replies on this topic here "Afterlife" and you needed another thread?

Jesus said "I came that you might have LIFE," not afterlife, yeh?
So, some Scriptures to consider, that btw virtually all "Christians" hate, and will not even engage with if you Quote them:
No one has ever gone up to heaven...
There is only One Immortal...
You and your sons will be here with me
(The then-dead Samuel (accepted), through the Witch of Endor, to Saul (rejected), after coming up from out of the earth, and saying who disturbs my rest)

so yeh, skip the "Death More Abundantly" crap, imo...
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find the Jesus Who had Two Middle Fingers turned all the way up at the man!
"baptizing ppl in the Jordan" is of course sedition in a theocracy, yeh?

and fwiw Gehenna--xlated to us (by scribes) as "hell"--is a place on earth

"the best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible" SClemens

What is your basis for "believing" in an after life? Given that there is zero evidence to support that belief, it mus be based on emotion rather than logic. Such are human beings...unduly influenced by their emotions rather than what they would rather believe about themselves...that they are logical beings.

Read, A athiest afterlife, by David Straum.

Why the concern? "Life after death" is an oxymoron. The only moment of any concern is right now and there's absolutely nothing that anybody can do to prove there's any surviving consciousness after your body "dies". "Hell" was a figment of Dante's imagination. Be here now.

Ok, we can deal it in 3 different ways.

1. If you are Christian:
   Or you buy the complete pack, or your religion says you are screwed, so If biblical heaven exists, biblical hell exists too and deny any part of the religion is a free ticket to hell.

2. You have your ow religion:
   Then is free for all... Heave without hell? OK, after life... OK, pink unicorns that fart rainbow that only naked nymphs can see and ride? Of course it is ok.

3. My view as an agnostic.
   All bullshit, all nonsense, all part of an infinite of possibilities that we can imagine but never verify, so all useless suppositions, thus, stop worrying about that, there is no way of knowing and enjoy/do something productive with the life you KNOW that exists.

That's what I think, that one ceases to exist, but I feel rather confident there's no terrible punishment for being wrong. My advice is to not sweat it. That will only stress you out and it's a question, like UFOs, that can't be answered. If you guess right you can't know so don't worry about it.

What gets you through, that’s the important thing. Probably not the medival approach of heaven and hell, but consciousness has not yet been resolved and quantum entanglement presents question we don’t know exist yet. Shove that in the miswith dark matter, who knows?

I do know that Einstein felt that the whole quantum world idea was ‘spooky’

I have to admit i never went through this, as the religion in which i was raised does not include a heaven or a hell, and i wasn't raised religiously anyway. But i can still make a suggestion i feel might help you. Read a bit about anatomy and physiology, particularly about the electrical aspects of how the brain works and what causes consciousness. There is no evidence that there is anything outside of the body that dies to experience an afterlife.

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There is no need for an afterlife. We are in “heaven” right now, every second. Time is nothing but illusion.

don’t worry about it too much if you can help it. in the end, it doesn’t really matter, does it? whether there’s an afterlife or not, you’ll find out when you die.

i say not to worry, but i’m still having existential crises about it sometimes, so don’t take that as a dismissal of however you’re feeling. questions with no definite answers can be hard to accept.