What do you fear most? Fascism: [ratical.org]
Or socialism:
[plato.stanford.edu]
Probably should have taken both from one source, but the former link inspired the post.
Have you ever considered the following?
The older I get the more I’m inclined to agree. I’m glad to see young ones taking up the torches for human rights and other causes I’ve always been sympathetic to.
Maintaining a church building in itself is a costly act, diversifying it’s use and making it more community inclusive has been quite good for my parents’ church in many ways. But the bottom line is the person in charge is running it for, ‘his flock, the believers’. It’s a funny old world.
What do you fear most?
An ignorant electorate subject to cults of personality.
So you believe in a free and effective educational system? Cool.
@girlwithsmiles absolutely, also not some one size fits all curriculums. Different people learn different ways.
Up through trade school/associates at a minimum.
@1of5 I totally agree
Fascism: People excessively controlling others is Not the way to go!
Socialists are also excessively controlling.
@Petter ummmm, an example?
@AnneWimsey @Wangobango3 China, Russia. Korea, .... Need I go on? They are all "Socialist" lands.
Do NOT confuse them with liberal democracies that have social care and a social conscience, such as in most of Europe.
@Wangobango3 Don't be so aggressive. I have no "party line". I'm from Africa, now living in Spain. I have had years of first hand experience of autocratic corruption in the name of socialism.
@Petter they are NOT! Several Scandinavian countries are truly "socialist", in caring for their citizens, yet free enterprise is encouraged. But you knew that you just posted utter BS, because....?
@Petter those 'liberal democracies" actually call themselves "socialist", ya know?
@AnneWimsey @Wangobango3 Consider this:-
Great Britain does NOT call itself a socialist state, yet it pioneered free medical care.
Spain, under Franco, was a very right wing dictatorship, yet had social care.
Do not judge the rest of the world through US tinted spectacles.
Do any of the Scandinavian countries call themselves socialist? Norway, like Britain, is a constitutional monarchy.
@Petter I knew you knew this, so WTH did you post "Korea" (a dictatorship) Russia (likewise, but far more crime) and "China"(weird leftover authoritarian communism with a dollop of practical capilism so people don't starve) in as examples of "Socialism" when they are as far from real socialism as it is possible to get....?
@AnneWimsey Because they pay lip service to social ideals. China claims to lead the socialist world.
True socialism is NOT linked to any particular form of government.
Therefore, if you re-read the question at the start of this post, Socialism is as much, if not perhaps more, to be feared. Surely you do not trust countries, such as China, because they are perceived as socialist?
@Petter so, they pay "lip service" and you help them out by posting it as Fact? Alrighty then......
And I want this country to actually care for the average working person....you?
@AnneWimsey In which case you certainly do not want your country to be like them. They (the ones to whom I refer) are to be feared.
If it was a choice between Fascism and Communism, I would have to go with both, since they both involve giving up individual freedom of thought. Socialism on it’s own can involve many forms of shared commitments without taking away your personal freedoms or annexing industry beyond making it responsible for the welfare of their workers.
One group you didn’t mention, and perhaps because it can exist with or independent of the others is Theocracy, which I find as scary as Fascism on many levels.
Oh, yes, I had hoped that had ended when the church and state split, but a good point. A lecture I attended today pointed out the a belief in climate change in the US related little to educational level and mostly to political affiliation. That was an interesting link. Whereas although democrats are less likely to be absolutely certain a God exists, the link isn’t nearly as obvious.
I don’t fear either, but a major concern is the stupidity of people not engaging with each other, regardless of ideological persuasion.
The sheep are being very well kept in their pens, if we believe such segregation has validity