To all y'all that voted status quo joe toniggt, enjoy 4 more years of Trump..you deserve it..
I can see that your goal is to insult and de-motivate all liberals who don't worship Bernie. But how does depressing voter turnout advance your personal goals?
Did I somehow hurt your feelings? After all you claim Bernie supporters are, quote "rabid".
Not rabid, just pissed at "liberal" DNC kool-aid drinkers. I'm tired of them jamming sham candidates down the throats of Dems, that eat it up like ice cream, tired of the bald faced lies, the subterfuge and the fact That the DNC leadership are shills for Wall st..don't want to believe it.. google it..then google their plan to stop Bernie..then there's the farce of Superdelegates..all party royalty (DWS and her ilk) and more Wall st Banksters..all out to protect their bank accounts and Corporate owners..I'll take an old school FDR "Radical Socialist" over a Corporate NeoLib every damn time. Enjoy your kool-aid..
I will hold my nose and vote for Biden in the general if he wins the nomination, but I will do so expecting nothing positive from him as prez. Like Obama, he would be better than Trump, but not much. Probably would be better on climate change and less hostile to immigrants, otherwise business as usual, no improvement on healthcare, maybe better policies on coronavirus...The Dem party is doomed for good with a Biden nomination and I am absolutely certain Biden will lose to Trump anyway tho and my bet still stands with the three people who refused to take my bet. They know I'm right, but they can't stand to admit how bad a candidate Biden is and that they are wrong to back him. Biden appears to also have mild or early dementia, unlike Bernie, but his supporters don't care about that. They are happy members of the top 10% and want the status quo to remain, just won't admit it.
At this point Biden reminds me of Reagan in 1980, a grandfatherly figure who, we now know, had early dementia at that time, but appealed to people because he seemed reassuring and comforting to them, even tho his policies were hostile to the working class and he became a national embarrassment to people like me, same as Trump. Yup, all you fools that support Biden, you will get the added years of Trump and you deserve it, but the shame of it is, I DON'T deserve it and I am sick of suffering for your mistakes and selfishness....
"It took the desire to overthrow Bernie Sanders for the democrats to finally unite."
Krystal Ball
I've hated Obama ever since he got elected and started showing his neoliberal colors. No surprise to me that he is behind the Stop Bernie dirty tricks right now.
Obama has lost my respect.
As confirmed by responses here: I'm afraid that Bernie supporters would boycott the general election out of spite if Biden is the nominee, thus confirming their dire predictions. Their hostility is so rabid.
And your mediocrity is underwhelming..
You are right. They are just like trumpers. My way or l am going to have a hissy fit. How mature.
@ToolGuy we will appreciate your opinion when you become an American Citizen. Until then kindly STFU.
@Charlene Don't worry, I'm an adult and will use my vote to defeat trumpism.
@ToolGuy I repeat.
@ToolGuy you can talk all you want, but until you have a vote to cast you are the same as a man with an opinion about abortion.
@BitFlipper just stop being a dick, okay? He is a member of this site & he can say what he thinks...I certainly did not appoint you My arbiter!
@AnneWimsey this is uncharacteristic for you, stepping in between two other people like this. I understand your religious fervor and dedication to Bernie, but I also think it is appropriate for me to tell a citizen of another country that his opinions on my political choices are unwelcome.
You would not call me a "dick" if I was a Bernie devotee.
Our hostility to drump is well-earned by his actions. I have no idea why you are being such an ass to people who want Their government to work for them! WTF is your problem?
@BitFlipper if you were a Bernie devotee, you QED wouldn't be a dick, sweetie.
Only if the Bernie people don't vote for whoever the nominee is. If they do that fuck'em. They need to spend the next four years keeping their mouth shut. I am about as far left as anyone, but I am also pragmatic. I know this is a centrist country. Less than half of registered Democrats identify themselves as Progressives. Only about 28% of registered voters are Democrats, and about the same number are Republicans. The rest are registered Independents. A little more of those Indies lean left more than to the right, and less than 10% actually are true Indies. Do the math. You could end up with a brokered convention and that might mean it will be neither Bernie or Joe. The most important thing is to get rid of trump, period.
The Indepenents and Millenials will leave the Dems and never look back..or not vote Biden, just as they did in 16..again..but you'll get your scapegoat. Cause you just love to blame the people that choose a fighter over mediocrity and the status quo. Blame your corporate overlords..and your own fear of change.
Cause they're laughing in your face as they rape all of Us.
@Charlene That is just ridiculous. You act like Bernie is the saviour of the world. He would not be able to get all of the Dems in the Congress to vote for Medicare for all. As for free college, the Federal Goverenment has nothing to do with state universities. That is entirely up to the states. That is fact. If they don't vote, it is on them and they need to be bitch slapped. This is the worst President in our history. If people don't vote him out no matter who the nominee is, it is on them. There is no excuse period. This is no time for whiny cry babies. If they didn't learn in 16 then they are too stupid to live, much less vote. That is just fact!
@Sticks48 if people walk away from it, it's because the DNC establishment pushed yet another unwanted candidate down their throats..that should be the lesson for the dems from 2016..but nah..It's Corporations before People, yet again.. so spare me your finger pointing..save for it the DNC..where it belongs.
@Sticks48 are you really that delusional? Seriosly?..guess you haven't been reading that bastion of liberalism The NYT. They've been running articles on the panic Bernie causes at the DNC. About how they pour money into anti-Bernie superpacs..or maybe you think the leadership at the DNC are all well meaning Wall st Banksters...
@Charlene If you think most of this country is liberal, You are delusional. I have been all over this country and the one thing it ain't is liberal. That is fact. If you think the money people will not be running the country if Bernie wins, you have much better drugs than I do. The RICH run and have run every country in history since there were kingdoms or countries. That ain't going to change.All you can do is put regulations on them which Democrats do and then Republicans undo them. This will not change either.
@Charlene It has nothing to do with kool aid. It has to do with common sense. People who let their emotions guide them in these matters generally fuck it up for everybody. trumpers are a perfect example of this. If you don't vote for whichever Dem who gets the nomination you are part of the problem. That is just a simple fact. if Bernie gets the nod I will vote for him without hesitation, but it would be the same if my plumber got the nomination. If you really think the South and Midwest are going to wake up and be Progressive, you are the one drinking Kool-Aid.