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I'll never fathom out the way Christians think!
I can understand how the Jewish establishment of two thousand years ago might have celebrated the demise of a trouble maker, who was calling into question such time honoured traditions as using the temple space for financial transactions.
I can understand the Roman government being happy that a potential risk of insurrection among the peasants of Judea had been averted.
But for the Jewish sect of Jesus followers, which broke away to become Christians, to call the day upon which their hero was flogged, tortured and crucified ....
"Good Friday"
.... is incomprehensible.
As I remarked earlier, "I'll never fathom out the way Christians think!"

Petter 9 Apr 11
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The longer you listen to Xstians the more clear it becomes that you will never understand them because - They're Batshit Crazy.

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The other thing that makes no sense is "Jesus died for your sins"

Jesus was only dead for 2 days. It was more like a very very bad day followed by a long nap.

BD66 Level 8 Apr 12, 2020
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Follow the money and all will be reviled

Good word play!

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Let's re-word that . . . . I'll never fathom out the way Christians DON'T think!

The reason that such Christians do not think is that they are brain damaged, often irreversibly so, in the pre-frontal cortex.

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This is a tradition I wish to pass on to all here...feel free to copy and pass on to others...spread the good NEWS.

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I think it should be called CruciFriday. Really, how did they miss that?

Excellent idea. Put it to your nearest Evangelical preacher.

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There was a time when the word good and holy or pious were synonymous. Holy Friday? Just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Only because you are accustomed to it. In Spain, where Easter celebrations start the day before good Friday, it starts on "Jueves Santo", Holy Thursday.
Friday is "Viernes Santo."

@Petter Everything sound better in Spanish.

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But it had to be Good Friday. Who is going to die for my sins and how will we explain the death of Jesus?

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Christianity was the religion of the oppressed because reward was in heaven not this world. Not only was it a distraction from the trauma of daily life under occupation, it was the way out.

The poor were valued and it also challenged rabbinic ritual. Apocalyptic Christianity gave an alternative to a troublesome and painful existence..

.... but "good".

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so, this is all encoded in the Esau story, but in english i guess ppl have an enduring need to believe in a god that desires sacrifices in order to be appeased? No Son of Man may die for another's sins; you pretty much have to find on your own i guess

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The sad truth is that Jesus was the osama bin laden of his time supposedly!!!

Jesus was supposedly a reactionary revolutionist!!

How would we really know for sure since everything written about his exploits were written 400 years after his so called crucifixion by the Romans.

There is no real historical record of Jesus being crucified at the time that biblical writings state???

Don't tell the Pope that - he would be heartbroken! 🤣

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What else can you expect from a demi-god. Live die repeat, ad infinitum.

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When I was a Xian, I wondered the same thing. Why is it "good" for Jesus to have been tortured and killed? I was told that it was a good thing, because he did it voluntarily in order to atone for our sins. He knew he would resurrect from the dead and have no more pain. It was a voluntary sacrifice made in love for our good. Therefore, it was "good." Now, do I accept that explanation? No. The whole thing is a fabricated, nonsensical story. But that's how the (or some) Xians see it.

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Nothing in any religion has logic. Christians, for example, identify themselves wearing a cross. Why would someone revere the method or instrument that killed your leader? It's as illogical as, for example, wearing a guillotine if your goddess was Marie Antoinette or a noose if your god was anybody who died hanging. But there you go!

One word...MARTYRDOM...by definition: a display of feigned or exaggerated suffering to obtain sympathy or admiration. Christianity has always capitalized on the guilt factor. It is the Churches way of maintaining control over the human race...or so they would like to believe. Some of us see through the sham and allow ourselves to grow beyond the mold we are usually poured into at birth. What angers Christians more than anything is the fact that they KNOW they have hit an immovable wall when confronted with fact and logic...they have no argument that will work and it drives them crazy. I feel sad for them because they are so miserable. Every move they make...every word they speak...every thought they form is driven by traditions that were meant to accomplish one thing and one thing only ... CONTROL YOUR LIFE ... Individuality and free thought are condemned. The human spirit is denied and crushed. You become part of "THE COLLECTIVE...RESISTANCE IS FUTILE" ... Roddenberry was DEFINITLY on to something and he hated Religion.

@phoenixone1 I thought that when you said "one word" you were at least going to be brief. LOL

@Mofo1953 ROFLMAO...not in my nature...I will let myself out.

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Death Cult

The early ones certainly were into self martyrdom.
Some of the latter ones preferred to make others into martyrs.

"death, more abundantly" yeh 🙂
they are mithraists but just don't know it, trying to get to the Elysian Fields via Jesus as Apollos, i guess? Apollos waters iow

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I thought it was a fair question so I looked it up.

""Good Friday" comes from the sense "pious, holy" of the word "good". Less common examples of expressions based on this sense of "good" include "the good book" for the Bible, "good tide" for "Christmas" or Shrovetide, and Good Wednesday for the Wednesday in Holy Week."
[en.wikipedia.org]

Taken symbolically ( which is the only way it makes any sense to me ) it was good/holy by virtue of the fact that it represents the willing ( as was the case with the Jesus character in the story ) abandonment of ego identity, after which, the only thing left to experience is "resurrection" to Heaven, Enlightenment, Nirvana, Liberation from ego identity, etc.

That would be good.

At least, that's one possible way to think about it.

skado Level 9 Apr 11, 2020

Thanks for your erudite and comprehensive reply to an incomprehensible conundrum.

Without the crucifixion Christianity cannot exist.

@Geoffrey51 More accurately, without its early martyrs, actual and fictional, Christianity would not have survived.

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The answer to your implied question lies within your own words: Christians cannot be said to think.

Yes. As a child I was taught not to overthink what the church taught. I was only to accept it on blind faith. 🙄🙄🙄 Happily, I did think about it in my late 20's and early 30's and discovered that it was all just mythology, with no facts or evidence to back it up. 🙂😀😁

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