Praise be his noodly appendage!

@p-nullifidian Ramen!

Indeed! I was wondering if someone would take a shot at the ultimate math problem Trinitarians (i.e., most Christians) have. 1 god in 3 persons, or 3 = 1.

That was what I basically got. At no point, in either video, was there any proof. Just a lot of words.

You've got the story a little contorted. LeMaître, a Jesuit priest, mathematician, and astronomer. He concluded, after studying Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, that the universe could have begun as a small superdense mass that burst into what we have. Einstein studied LeMaître's work and told him that although the math was correct his physics was abominable. Hubble's observation of the red shift of distant galaxies came later, and convinced Einstein that LeMaître was right.

The fundamentalists were and still are certain that the universe was created in its current state around 6000 years ago. The Catholic church also resisted LeMaître's explanation for the origin of the universe but later accepted it with the caveat that since the cause of the "Big Bang" was unknown, it was the work of god. Meaning their god, of course.

Novelty, the universe neither banged nor expanded.

Edwin Hubble hypothesized two universes, the first of them expanding. He summarized his hypotheses in the 1937 Royal Astronomical Society Monthly Notices:
“If the red shifts are a Doppler shift . . . the observations as they stand lead to the anomaly of a closed universe, curiously small and dense, and, it may be added, suspiciously young.
“On the other hand, if red shifts are not Doppler effects, these anomalies disappear and the region observed appears as a small, homogeneous, but insignificant portion of a universe extended indefinitely in both space and time.“

LeMaitre had taken the first one, and probably because it suited his purpose, to support Genesis, wrote his math, ran time backwards and “found” a “primeval atom”.
Many working astronomers disagreed but they wanted to do astronomy, not do battle with the fundamentalist xians who, to refute Darwin, needed a creation point.

Novelty I first heard the Bang story in 1961-62 when I was in grad school studying physics. I didn’t believe it then and forty-plus years later after i’d retired started studying it.

The story has changed in the last five or so years and JimG is telling the new story.
For a moment, assume the expansion story true. The matter was moving along straight lines and its momentum was linear. Yet, in the galaxies the matter is moving about a galaxy’s center and the momentum is angular. Jim and others who accept the expansion story havve not explained the forces that changed the linear momentum to angular momentum.

If you want to read, go to www.newtoeu.com and after looking around download the free PDF file. You won’t need a degree in physics.

@Novelty, @yvilletom That new five year old story is the one I read in the late 1980s.

As a former competitive shooter and lifelong target shooter, I've witnessed the change of linear movement into angular movement every time I squeeze the trigger. A bullet directed in a straight line by a rifle barrel begins accelerating towards the earth as soon as it clears the muzzle.

The Big Bang theory was used to successfully predict many previously undiscovered features of the universe beyond its expansion, including cosmic background radiation, the overall temperature of space, and matter distribution within the known universe. The predictive power of the big bang theory is pretty strong supporting evidence.

@Novelty Of course you have no reason to know LeMaitre’s thoughts. He died in 1965.

@JimG You would try to analogize a fired bullet with matter forming a galaxy?
Have you no shame?
Linear movement is not linear momentum. Ditto for angular movement; it is not angular momentum.
btw, I fired 20 and 40 mm antiaircraft ammo in the Navy. I dealt with gravity, the target’s motion, and the ship’s rolling, pitching and yawing. Try first year general science again.

@yvilletom The same force, gravity applies in both cases. It transforms linear motion into angular. Don't you think it's a little dishonest to change your subject from universal expansion to planetary formation in midstream. I'd love to hear how the gravitational force is different in each case, but I don't care to deal with your self-important arrogance.

He sells "American" made, "best sleep" ever pillows. A real made for television shuckster who made millions.

@Beowulfsfriend Uh-huh.