Yeah but all Newton ever did was math and science while Jesus was magic!

God and Jesus are divas. It's all about "Look at me!" "Praise me!" "Tell me how great I am!" The way they're written, they suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. They're like Trump if he were a god.

So true!! Doesn't he say he is a jealous God?? What the F?? We are to be like him but not jealous?? Doesn't add up again!!!

@2muchstupidity: The "do as I say not as I do" god. It is just so nonsensical.

All the more reason why I don't owe him shit.

@Sgt_Spanky Exactly!

Worse things happen at sea apparently

Go Man. U. the best of the Best.

@Triphid A better result last night. Saw off those West London pansies but wait a minute, you are in the southern hemisphere . Aren't you meant to support Man U ?

@Moravian Always have been a supporter of Manchester United, the Red Devils.

@Triphid I've been a gooner since I lived in London as a teenager. I shared a flat just round the corner from Highbury so I was on the terraces every second week. Funny thing allegiance to a club, if I had stayed in West London I may have supported Chelsea or Fulham.
I always support my local team as well and when living in Perth I supporter of St Johnstone. My greatest memory of Mcdermid park is when they played Monaco in a European game with Fabian Barthez in goal and his super model girlfriend watching. The game ended 3--3 but what a night.

I have a standing rule with myself, I don't discuss religion or politics on FB. It never turns out well when I see others do it.

@Sgt_Spanky Yes, text is usually not conducive to the discussion of substantive topics. I meant that I post atheist articles and memes that I like. It's a way if marking my territory, I suppose. It has also cost me relationships, which seems to me a very efficient way of separating the wheat ftom the chaff.

@LovinLarge I can respect that approach, I just think it's easier to roll my eyes and ignore it all. They all know I'm not religious, or should by now.

@Sgt_Spanky Definitely. Almost everyone I know is religious to some extent and most of those relationships I am not willing to sacrifice over a single issue. After all, we're always going to differ from everyone else on at least one issue and that is probably a good thing.

I've done similar in the past - all hell broke loose ! It's interesting to me, that all these folks that are supposedly so solid in their beliefs, are so easily shaken by a simple , nonthreatening statement like the one you made - which is merely a plain truth !
So much for their supposed love and understanding eh ?

I sometimes wonder if Jebus ppl know, deep down, that they're faith is bullshit and that's why they get so triggered when it's challenged.

Because you're trampling on their delusion.

@LisaLisa92806 I thought delusions were meant to be trampled on.

Especially at a time when they are losing it.

Obviously the perfect foundation for a touching Xmas story.

Yep! I don't understand how people can be so gullible.

So here's the funny thing about that. I used to go to a meetup group for skeptics, atheist and agnostics as it turned out. As a general comment, they had poor social skills, were unnecessarily argumentative, were unfriendly and downright unkind to each other. I was not the target of any of those behaviors because I kept a very low profile once I saw how they treated each other.

I can't recall seeing a group of religious people treat each other similarly, so strictly on the issue of who is better company I have to go with religious people. No one who knows I am an atheist ever raises the issue of religion with me and that is good enough for me.

@LovinLarge Thanks for sharing that. If anything, I guess that highlights a distinction between social skills and belief/unbelief.

@anglophone But I am still 100% on board with you about not tolerating prosthlytizing and also acknowledge religion as a nefarious force, but because of my experience I don't want to refuse to interact with people in real time strictly because they are religious.

@LovinLarge I can go with that. It may surprise some here to learn that I once supported an acquaintance on his own journey into theism. He was frightened by his own mortality, and by his own admission he needed the false comfort of the Christian Heaven, even though another part of him knew it to be mythical.

@anglophone I hesitate to conceed that religion may be necessary because that would mean it can never go away, but given the amount of reliance on it by some people it is entirely possible.

@LovinLarge
Interesting! Hmmmm....

That's what I pretty much do.

What I like to point out is even religious scholars believe that Jesus was born in the Spring, so celebrating his "birth" in December is just another way of appropriating pagan holidays for their use. I also like to ask if we're celebrating Christian holidays as truth, does that mean Jesus died on a different day every year.

Anyone who calls a woman a "bitch" merely exposes their frustration that she doesn't have to participate in traditional scams like religion and patriarchy. Once you know someone doesn't view you as an equal, their opinions are meaningless.

@LovinLarge yep, you nailed it.

@kiramea I think you'll find that the Catholic Church had to do some calculations so the Good Friday and the rest of the Easter Myth would always align with the Jewish Passover Celebrations.
But IF memory serves me correctly, their 'calculations' went quite awry a few years ago when EASTER fell on the First Day of April, known as 'April Fools Day.'
Perhaps, Fate/Karma or what ever else you may choose to call was 'dropping a very big HINT' that the Faithfools just could NOT pick up on?

The fact we can't prove he existed is proof he didn't.

A very long time ago, some woman ate an apple, or a peach, or a banana -- the bible isn't clear on this -- and that tagged us all with an unforgivable sin for eternity so we needed him to save us from that.

Because she ate a mango...or whatever it was. Makes perfect sense.

And then you could quit FB for a while. You'll know it's time for a second coming when you see all the bumper stickers "BitFlipper disappeared for YOUR sins", though the standard treatment is to keep them waiting a few more thousand years

This is true and a good idea!!

Good idea! I will try to avoid like you do. The other beliefs are not shoving theirs all the time as being always right..right..right. I get so sick of xians always ignoring others around the world that don't believe or celebrate like they do!

Yes! I did that!