I don't know why you felt the need to say that. Why did you? Do you care to explain? Actually, don't bother. The way you choose to express yourself just eliminates my willingness to hear your reply.

So you're going to report my opinion doesn't agree with yours? Is that what your saying? Okay then.

@Flowerwall Your opinion doesn't agree with universally held evidence and facts! Your continued insistence that your opinion on this issue deserves consideration is irritating, exhausting, and beyond reasonable at this point. That's why I reported it to @admin.

@kensmile4u If you're so irratated, why bother reading and responding? Are you so concerned with controllong other people's ideas you somehow think that some admin somewhere can somehow effect change in MY MIND because you find it problematic? Listen that will never happen. You have wasted time in your efforts. However I feel about Trump or Biden will never be changed by any admin.

"tell me what they can do" Well one would be creating a voter fraud commission and doing random thorough analysis of votes and voters (are legal, legitimate voters). Second, some of the ballots were said to have been prepinted, thus illegal, allow those to be inspected by criminal forensics teams. Pledge to do away with use of Dominion machines by all swing states. Using soctware that cannot be accessed by public because of proprietary concerns is a conflict of interest that cannot stand as is. Whatever other calls are being made by the Right need to be addressed within reason to solve the question in people's minds.

@Flowerwall You sound ridiculous. when you can't come up with enough evidence to convince even one court to look at it you have nothing. They are just making shit up. People like you will never except it unless it goes your way. 50 times the courts said they had nothing. Because of Russian interference in 16 this was the most closely scrutinized election in the history of this country. Besides that anyone supporting a racist, misogynistic, lying cheating fuck like Trump has something seriously wrong with them, like no morals and no character.

@Sticks48 Your broad inaccurate generalizations are not things I will spend time on.

sadly... you don't spend much time THINKING either... so the DOJ, AG, DHS, FBI, everyone is lying EXCEPT of course...some guy you saw on the internet. self delusion is sad... @Flowerwall

@Flowerwall Like I really care. You folks never come back with facts. Everythi9ng I said about Trump is accurate and if you support him you are no better. I wouldn't want to spend a minute with either one of you.

@Leetx, @Sticks48 We have different points of view, but frequently your side reverts to insults or broad generalizations, I've noticed. It's unproductive. Let's stick to the facts. The commentator was just reviewing the court cases and peperwork and future court cases. I haven't had time to listen fully, but if I come across anything that stands out in my mind, I'll post. You might not want to hear it though.

@Flowerwall You have not stated any facts. You ignore facts. This is what the stupid do. This is not name calling. this is an assessment based on your own words. If I called you smart, which you obviously are not, you would not call that name calling even though it would be based on the same criteria. I am beginning to believe you are just a troll anyway. After reading this post it is unlikely I need to read another one. I already know who you are in one thread.

Citizens on the Right side of political spectrum. These are the people feeling duped right now.

As the adage goes: fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. Fool me thousands of times then call me brain dead (my addition). With thousands of documented lies from tRump none ot his followers has the right to claim they were taken advantage of!

@Flowerwall The stupid always feel duped. That is what stupid people do. You have been duped for four years by Trump because you are stupid. The stupid don't know they are stupid because this is how stupid works. Quit being stupid. Stupid is dangerous as we saw on the 6th.

I don't see it happening. I think it's protection for unconstitutional proceedings. I do know Leftwingers are blatantly carrying signs calling for vengance against the US government. Are these the threats? Or are you blind to them because they are your side?

Okay voter fraud is ONE aspect of this. Now we are dealing with a political hatred so deep they are unsuccessfully trying to disguise their hatred as valid, legal impeachment. It's not working and the ruze is plain to see! I'll take off my tinfoil hat if you'll pledge to love the constitution and national harmony above political greivances. Is it a deal?

@Flowerwall i am not the one posting phony divisive BS

@Flowerwall There is a difference between voter fraud and election fraud. There may have been random cases of voter fraud, like 3 people in PA who sent in ballots for dead wives, all Republican, but there's idiot Democrats who might do that. When Trump sat down with Georgia Sec State and tried to coerce him to "find" him 11K votes, that's election fraud. That's what he should be getting impeached for. It's all on tape. It would be easy to prove. Invoking an insurrection is up to interpretation. He's still the biggest piece of shit that ever sat in the White House.

@AnneWimsey Well thank you for acknowledging you are more interested in placing divisive labels, then pledging your allegiance to constitution and being a force for national unity.

@barjoe "Invoking an insurrection is up to interpretation. " Thank you for acknowledging the obvious. They have set a dangerous, dangerous precedent with this. Now the elected official is directly responsible for the actions and decisions of supportors. It defies all standards and logic.

Also voter fraud can be easily disproven if there is a will on the part of the gov. to do so. The constitutional manipulation can't be undone, but it us what it is. The Rs need to address this case by case.

@Flowerwall He's still guilty AF. If you want to make excuses for him, that's your problem. I just wish they had issue two impeachment articles, one for attempted election fraud, they'd have nailed his nuts to a tree for that. The corrupt Republicans would've still voted to clear him because they have no integrity at all, or they're scared of the violent ultra right wing of the party. You KNOW this is true even though you tow the party line no matter what.

@Flowerwall This is not interpretation. This is so blatant Stevie Wonder could see it. GEEZ!

@barjoe "He's still guilty AF" Guilty of what? Where is the evidence? You can't just place a guilty label because you strongly dislike, even hate someone. It doesn't work.

@Flowerwall He's guilty of threatening a state official to manipulate an election! That's on tape. That's illegal. Do you think that's legal? He's the hater. Trump is the one who's filled with HATE! It works. Did you listen to the tape? If you think he was not trying to manipulate the election, you're jaded. I wouldn't call you stupid, unlike most of his supporters who are.

@Flowerwall Watch the fucking trial and you will see the evidence. This is the way it works.

I think a mob of that size would be pretty easy to see coming, don't you? I don't think there will be any further violence there at the Capitol however unneccessary and unconstitutional the proceedings that are being held there are. It could be secured with much less.

I think any further escalation of tension and violence will occur in other places. For instance, from what I see there are still Leftwing mobs in action as of the other day. All you need are these opposing groups protesting near each other, and then, problems! But why are our elected officials proceeding in a path that escalates tensions? Do they completely disregard the consequences of their own actions or do they secretly wish for an escalation of tension where they themselves are protected by troops, but the people outside their ivory tower can fight, fight, fight? I noticed Tlaib cry when she spoke of herself and peers with threats of violence. Did she cry when the nation was steeped in violence, destruction and death this summer? I want to know she was REALLY crying then.

There was chat about trouble on Jan 17th and Jan 20th.

I don't believe much of what is said online. What is the constitutional reasoning Dems are using for this process? Or is it just a blatant disregard for that little piece if paper?

I'm just reading a legal perspective on the yes side and no side. On the yes side is the arguement House impeached already, so this is just finishing the process. But then what was the basis? The specific words said that day? The voter fraud ideas? It can't be the NG being not fully ready because this is still under investigation, from what I just read today. He couldn't have been impeached for something they don't even have a final determination on.

What? I am talking about the nation's capitol. I feel legitimate questions the Right had are not being fully addressed. An online commentator was talking about this, the concerns, the ballots, and really, it's a legitimate question. I see this, and I have heard others express the idea, "Why are there NG troops still at the Capitol?" Really, why? We never see this in this country. And this is why when you look at it, as I said in post below "They are attempting to assert a power they DO NOT POSSESS. This is why they need protection." This is the logical reason why, imo.

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There are calls to allow inspections of the ballots. Interested parties want to inspect. Why don't citizens have a right to partake in inspections? I feel the call is justified and needs to be addressed. Where are the forensic audits? Jan 6 was a boiling point. And now the NG is protecting the fire of unconstitutional processes of sham impeachment, meanwhile gov does nothing to put out the actual flames! Somebody needs to tell the lawmakers they cannot remove from office, someone who is NOT IN OFFICE. They are attempting to assert a power they DO NOT POSSESS. This is why they need protection.

I have legitimate concerns about your ability to block out nonsense. To answer your question about why the NG still needs to protect... Jan 6th is the answer. Your question about the impeachment is this: "...do a recount and find me 11,780 votes..." . As to your "...cannot remove from office someone who is not in office...: the constitution of the U.S. (you may have heard of this) REQUIRES a Trial of an impeached president. @Flowerwall

@Flowerwall do you have any idea that on Election Day each polling place has an equal-numbers squad of both Republicans & Democrats & Green, or whomever,if, they are on the ballot, right there on site...to answer questions by voters, assist the handicapped, and, yes,keep an eye on All the proceedings? EVERY polling place!

@AnneWimsey That was not allowed to fully occur bcuz of covid. Listen to the testimony.

@Flowerwall I stole from my job. I quit my job. Am I not still libel? I incited an attack on our nations pillar of democracy. I no longer have the same access to incite another one. Shall I still be prosecuted? Not white, savvy con men who are entertaining actors for the logically impaired.

@Mooolah "I stole from my job. I quit my job. Am I not still libel? " You sure are. But this can't be compared to impeaching the Pres. who is no longer in office.

@Flowerwall BS, i was a volunteer poll monitor for Common Cause on Election Day, (as were thousands all over the countty) to make sure the Laws, as described above,were being enforced all day at 5 polling places...put almost 400 miles on my car that day.

@AnneWimsey So everything looked good to you? No problems anywhere, at all? No 6ft social distancing in place?

@Flowerwall there was 100% social distancing & fully masked Everybody Everywhere, it's he law in CT! And what would That have to do with voting/ballots?
There were also large men, volunteer firefighters mostly, outside every polling place to insure the 75' rule, as always. (no signs/campaigning within 75' of polling places)

@Flowerwall This is where we disagree. He MUST be disciplined for his irresponsible behavior. Something he has never had to do. He committed an act so vile that to the end of his days he should be prison. Sans his Twitter feed.

@AnneWimsey So how are ppl effectively doing the dbl eyes if they are 6ft apart and can't see?