What sort of mental illness or religious insanity would cause something like this? It is almost hard to believe.
The mental illness is: Evangelical pseudochristianity
Read this story and I felt just like I did at the end of the movie Chinatown. Only the last line in this case is "Forget it Jake, it's Arizona".
Sad and so needless.
Had something somewhat similar occur near where I live some 30+ years ago.
The parents were full on Seventh Day Adventists, though the father was not quite as full on as the mother.
The relationship started to turn sour, he left the family home after a few months of, in his words, "Sheer emotional and Mental Hell from the wife."
Found a house to rent less than a mile away, begged the wife for visitation rights with the 3 children, all under the age of 7 years, and got refusals EVERY time.
3 weeks, upon arriving home from work he was confronted by the Police bearing the terrible news that his estranged wife had bashed the 2 eldest children to death with a shovel, forced the 18 month old baby to drink Drain Cleaner mixed with Lemon juice and then tried to kill herself by gassing herself in the kitchen stove oven.
The trouble was she did NOT, so it seemed, realise that the oven was electric and NOT gas operated.
She was sentenced to 3 terms of 25 years in prison, each to served consecutively.
The father still lives here, I see him quite often both as friend of sorts and as a Psychological Counselor as well,.
I hold very sincere doubts that he will ever come completely to grips with what happened though.
Ouch.
It's almost like infanticide and fratricide were a major theme in religion and myths or something.
There was a family annihilation incident in the town where I used to live. The house it happened in was less than a mile from our house. The parents were both drug users. The father was out scoring some coke when he came home and discovered the mother had killed their two children. He bashed her head in with a flashlight, then took "all the methadone in the house" (as the newspaper put it) . The next morning, the little girl (six-years-old) revived and was able to revive her father. He was convinced of killing the mother. The house was torn down and a new one built in it's place. These stories are so horrible.
It's called "the poisoning of gullible minds by God Mobsters".
This is a fairly common practice in the "Religion of Peace", wherein children are executed for homosexuality, apostasy, courting "infidels", blasphemy, etc. I find it ironic that many (a minority of) atheists and agnostics subscribe to the regressive leftism which tolerates and encourages the propagation of Islam.
".......regressive leftism which tolerates and encourages....Islam"
That is one of the weirdest, nonsensical sentences I have ever read.....congratulations??????
@AnneWimsey Perhaps I should have prefaced my comment with a "trigger warning".
I am only of that nature to not want people assaulted by right wing nutters who want to attack Islamic people for how they are dressed. These big, brave men usually only assault women and old men, of course. Men can be a chosen victim if it can be from a safe distance with a projectile firing weapon.
Mid eastern people also have better food than mid western people, generally speaking.
@PBuck0145 Perhaps you should avoid slinging around judgmental and inflammatory labels, which highlight only your ignorance and bigotry.
Even more reasons why guns should not be readily available.
It surely worked well in Australia, which is now a de facto police state.
@PBuck0145
Other than memes do you have statistics to back that up.
I live in Australia we are not in any way a police state. We actually have decent police officers who are not racist, abusive, ignorant, and sadistic (well some of them might be but it is a small group) people here actually support our police officers.
If you call for police help you do not need to fear being killed by the police officer.
I work in schools and have done so for a few decades, I can recall one incident of a gun on a school in all of Australia in all of that time. 1 and it was a husband who was after his ex wife, a teacher, he let all of the students leave the room after he walked in, we now have doors on our classrooms that automatically lock when closed so that can not happen again. We saw a problem and we took action to prevent it happening again.
We had one deranged lunatic go after people, and we took action to prevent it happening again. I can safely walk any street in any town or city without the fear some lunatic with an automatic firearm will go beserk and kill hundreds of people.
You can still own guns but you must be registered the firearms must be registered and you must be a member of a gun club and attend regular practise sessions. All firearms must be stored in a locked box and all ammunition must be stored separately. Police are allowed to do random checks and do my brother had a hand gun in a small safe under his desk behind his bed in his room in my parents house. they came to check when he was at work and my Mother took them up to the room. They looked at the 30cm gap between his bed and the wall that was stacked with metal files full of comics and the 30cm gap on the other side next to the shelving full of all sorts of weird stuff, that led to his desk and she pointed to the dim dark recess under the desk telling them the safe was at the back of that and their comment was that if someone got into the house and past the death pit that was my brother's room to the safe and managed to unlock it they deserved the gun.
Gun clubs are under a legal requirement to report any member who they deem to be at risk. In my brother's gun club one man had his wife walk out on him, it was messy and nasty as she took the kids and was being an utter bitch. He was angry, justifiable so. The president of the club asked him to hand his firearms into the club where they would store them for him until the mess was all over. Being a somewhat reasonable human being he did so. He still had access to them on training nights and if he was going hunting it was with a member of the club who could vouch for him at all times. This was actually keeping him safe as if the bitch decided to say he came to her place and threatened him with a gun the club could prove it did not happen. If he had refused then the president would have had to report him to the police and they would have confiscated the weapons and he may have lost his licence. The man also turned over his licence to the club so that it would be impossible for him to legally purchase a firearm of any kind.
I am glad of these regulations that keep us safe. I would rather that than being able to walk into a shop buy a firearm with no training or skill, store it loaded in a bag that a toddler could get to and the toddler killing themselves or someone else while playing with it.
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While in Australia
The image comes from a much larger document
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I tried to find data on firearms but it is grouped in with weapons and explosives and came in at 50 altogether and weapon could also be a knife, a club etc.
Also the total number of deaths in Australia due to firearms is low
[gunpolicy.org]
Statistics for Canada were harder to find.
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Now while the woman in this story obviously has a serious mental health problem (which in Australia's "police state" would not allow her to privately own a firearm and any in the house would have to be locked up so that she could not get them and she would not be able to legally buy one) and she would have found another way to harm her children and herself. In Australia's "police state" the father could have reported his concerns to medical professionals and she could have been taken in for treatment that would not have cost the family anything as it is covered under a healthcare system.
So the loss of this child and the injury of the other is due to lack of health care and a system that does not support families, and influences of a cult not guns. She used a gun because she had one available in this case access to the gun simply gave her a means to act out her delusions. But this still does not invalidate the gun laws in Australia nor make us a police state.
Also do you stop for red lights, stop signs, follow the speed limit, give way when required while driving a car, walking as a pedestrian? Do you pay for items you want from a store, pay workers for their work?
These are all laws that people follow on a day to day basis and don't think much about but heaven help us if someone questions the right to own a dangerous weapon and the need to own a weapon designed to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible ie a military weapon.
@Budgie Wow! Thanks for sharing all this. When I was growing up, two kids I knew accidentally shot a member of their family to death. One was an young kid who was playing with his dad's gun, didn't know it was loaded and shot his brother to death. The shooter was a classmate of mine. The other incident involved a classmate of my brother's. He was seventeen when he was cleaning a gun and shot his mother to death. I have a very dear friend who's 19 year old son took his own life with his grandfather's gun. I should say one of his grandfather's MANY guns. I am a teacher now and I have to practice active shooter drills with little tiny tiny kids. The USA is out of control in so many ways.
@Budgie Hi, I to live in Australia and totally agree with you on all that, except the fact that you call the woman a bitch. After all nobody knows what goes on in a relationship, I am sure that he added to the troubles. And yes a lot of people get angry and use the kids as a weapon, that happens too, but for all that we don't know what really happed inside that relationship calling her a bitch and him a very nice man is not on.
Another Arizona headline today with parents who had decapitated two of their four children. Then they committed more atrocities.
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This is, unfortunately, not an isolated case. I have heard of others before. At the end of WWII Joseph Goebbels, his wife, Magda killed their 6 children by cyanide. They then killed themselves. They didn't want themselves or their children to be a part of the 'godless' life of the Americans and Russians and felt they would, in the end, be in heaven together.
Goebbels believing his own propaganda. Do we know of anything like that going on today? Maybe in the last 5 years.
@DenoPenno That is the problem with propaganda. Pretty soon people start to believe their own crap. My uncle, fought for the Germans on the Russian front for 4 years. He was then captured and spent 5 years in a Siberian gulag. Later he was a part of the Bundeswehr and rose to warrant officer. He was in charge of the local propaganda dept. I would have loved to have talked to him about what his job entailed.
Given how wonderful they claim the eternal heaven to be, Iβve always wondered why this doesnβt occur more frequently.....