While you're agnostic/atheist, if someone religious shares, say, the same political views as you, would you be prepared to put each other's religious/non-religious differences aside and work with them together to achieve common good?
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If they respect my non-religion, definitely.
AnonySchmoose
Level 8
Oct 19, 2021
7
Not all religious people are bad.
Some are like Jimmy Carter and actually pray with working hands.
I could not be around someone that yapped about religion all the time.
BufftonBeotch
Level 8
Oct 19, 2021
7
I like that term, “pray with working hands.” Describes Jimmy Carter nicely!
If all were like Carter, religion would truly be a force for good. Unfortunately maybe 10% of them actually practice the so called words of Jesus....
The rest have made up their own religion.....
I don’t get these so called “conservative” atheist. Just go to church with the rest of the intolerant bigoted hateful ignorant fucks or get off the fence.
Aaron70
Level 8
Oct 19, 2021
7
That's pretty much my thought!
Well said, that is why I get into beefs with so many of them on here and end up blocking them, as, in the end, they usually fall on the same side as all the Christian Repubs and Christian conservative I hate, at least on most issues. These conservative atheists seem to really only care much about preventing theocracy against them, otherwise they don't care about anybody else and want it to be every man or woman for themselves, no society or common good.
Indeed! Conservative atheists vote for conservative politicians who, when elected, appoint conservative judges who take us back to a previous age when abortions were illegal, religion was more dominant and minority rights were never assured. Conservative atheists don’t seem to mind being called regressive so long as they’re never called progressive.
I think most of them would probably say they are Libertarians.
Which often means self centered asshole.
Conservative agnostics and atheists are people who have replaced the religion in the spiritual with that of social order and hierarchy.
In my few and counters with them, I've basically seen the exact same religious energy or culture they grew up around or in being applied to expectations of social and political stagnancy.
They do tend to be really heavy on racist or anti-rigorous pseudoscience. More so than the religious types. They just seem satisfied not to be considered a religious person even though they perpetuate the same madness.
Have done it. I worked at a nursing home for retired nuns. And it was also administered by nuns. They never asked me about my religion. If they assumed my religion they never let on what they had concluded. Since I was the activities director I did "pray" with them. It does not bother me to take a reflective moment of silence while others pray. I also would said the rosary with them. It was part of my job to do so. But I was not required to believe that those words meant the same thing to me that they meant to themselves. The truth is, they were by far the loveliest, most intelligent, most-unworldly-wise, kindest community of people I have ever known. They treated me with love every moment that I worked there. I love the Sisters of the Holy Cross and I am an atheist.
MyTVC15
Level 7
Oct 19, 2021
5
Certainly. I find that most people believe at least some little bit (or a lot) of something stupid... religion, GMOs are evil, candy corn is good, country music doesn't suck, etc. Putting aside ones differences.. as long as they aren't too extreme... for the common good is certainly reasonable. There are limits of course. I probably wouldn't team up with the president of the Ted Bundy Fan Club to save the rain forest.
Charles1971
Level 7
Oct 19, 2021
5
You really hit the nail on the head with one of those. I have lived in Iowa my whole life and hate country music with a passion. To me, all of it old and new, sounds trite, retarded (yes, I also hate most of that PC crap as well) and really boring. But around here, where I have had to suffer hearing it a lot during my life, you have to say with a whisper that you hate it or even don't like country music, like the music or genre is fucking sacred or something, like you were burning or pissing on the American flag. I also hate all the Elvis Presley worship around here as well, as if he were Jesus H. Christ, the messiah or something. There is a huge amount of stupid in my state, and it certainly explains our fucked up Repub one party state politics around here.
@TomMcGiverin That Applebee's "Fancy Like That" hideousness.
Country, contrived and auto-tuned. I cringe.
@BufftonBeotch Don't get me started on how many country singers, even tho they are supposedly pros, sing with Auto-Tune running at their concerts and in the recording studio. People who can't even sing on pitch, making big money because they are cute or have the right image. I have heard Auto -Tune used at a live concert by an amateur local band, and the voice did not even sound human.
Absolutely... in a social or working relationship... as long as they're not proselytizing. I got into a religious discussion with an associate one time who couldn't understand how I was able to exist without believing in a supernatural entity. I told her "Look... religion is learned. If you were raised by my parents, and I by yours, we'd be on opposite sides of this argument.
TheoryNumber3
Level 8
Oct 21, 2021
5
It would all depend on whether or not the other party tried to ram his or her opinion down my throat, so my answer to your question is "yes".
anglophone
Level 9
Oct 20, 2021
5
I send money automatically every month to The Lincoln Project......
AnneWimsey
Level 9
Oct 19, 2021
5
I don’t ask or care to know about the political or religious views of anyone I either work or socialise with, nor would it matter if I did know. It’s not likely that many here in Northern Ireland are going to be atheist, but that has never stopped me from getting on well with most people I have ever encountered, all of them varying degrees and complexions of religious.
Marionville
Level 10
Oct 20, 2021
4
I do every day. Nothing but theists around me. I personally only know one other non believer besides me and we never talk religion at all.
GrooshStar
Level 7
Oct 20, 2021
4
Hard not to. Especially, since I must, just by chance, work together with many religious people all the time, without even knowing their religion or not. Given that, it would be hard to break off, if I did at a later date find out their religion, and unfair double values to refuse if I did know their religion at the start.
Fernapple
Level 9
Oct 20, 2021
4
It depends on many factors. I simply don't know. If the other side shows some good will, I can't see why not.
Paddypereira
Level 7
Oct 19, 2021
3
Of course, politics makes strange bedfellows, as they say, and am always glad to make temporary or lasting alliances with religious folks on particular issues, as long as they show respect for me, non-belief and all. But I must admit that, these days, it is rare for religious folks to not be conservative and Repub across the board on politics, esp. with my politics being socialist, about as far left as it gets these days in the US.
TomMcGiverin
Level 8
Oct 19, 2021
2
Ryo1:
I believe that there are left-wing/socialist Christians in the US. Would you be able to show respect for them, their religious belief and all equally?
@Ryo1 Undoubtedly there are some that exist, but I bet they are very few in number, as they sure have been in my personal experience. To answer your ?, yes, and yes, but the respect would have to be a two way street, as I never settle for second class or unequal status, whether in personal friendship, a dating relationship or marriage, or a political alliance. How about you, Ryo1? Care to answer your own ? personally and honestly?
Ryo1:
@TomMcGiverin I have no problem with cooperating with other decent citizens, religious or not (except anyone with extreme views), if we are to achieve shared goals like improving healthcare, social welfare, infrastructure, public safety, etc., etc. which are for everyone to benefit from.
2A people and The Religious Right, not sure what the long term prospects are there with that particular team, once their common enemies are wiped out. My guess is that the killing and war never stops....just like Afghanistan ....already ! Less than a month when religion is involved !!!
@Scooter65 I'm sure they exist, unlike unicorns, but I sure haven't run across them every in my 60 something years around this state.
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