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What's your opinion of assisted suicide?

kozmic 6 Apr 29
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In America you on average spend more money on medical bills in the last year of life than your entire life previous leading up to it. And for what? To live 7 months longer and still die withered and in pain? All it does is create debt for your family. If you are legally of sound mind and diagnosed terminally you should be able to take that route if you want.

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Best ive seen is from a movie called solient green. Hope i spelled it right. People just went to this place and got to see how it use to be on a big movie sceen and they went to sleep. Died.

I thought that was terrific except for the part where they take the corpses and process them into crackers for people to eat on soylent green day. 😀

@Surfpirate. Can i say yummm here...lol. you got to eat...

@BucketlistBob True, but why the colour green? Why not soylent pink day or soylent red day? Reminds me too much of green eggs and ham. 😀

@Surfpirate. I think it was mixed with algae to make it green. I think the commen people thought it was just algae...

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It depends - if it was me dying slowly in terrible pain - I'd want to go before that. Needs to be supervised by suitable medical people - and facilitated. Yes, death with dignity

Provided you can FIND such "suitable medical people" that aren't motivated by profit, greed, or some jocular fantasy of demi-godness... good luck with that.

@Fryan I'd keep looking till I found one - if not, would take my own solution. I don't live in USA thank goodness

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I agree with it wholeheartedly in the case of intolerable suffering. The condition causing the suffering doesn't even have to be terminal it merely has to be incurable, that is all reasonable attempts at treatment have failed. And the suffering does not have to be physical, it may be psychological. If the person is unable to give consent either due to mental incapacity or youth then given the wishes of the next of kin are in favor of euthanasia than a specialist board should be convened to decide the matter, taking into account the person's quality of life not just the ability to keep them alive.
There have been court cases in Australia where parents have tried to withdraw further treatment from children because they believed the child's quality of life was non existent.
One where a young boy with a brain tumor had already undergone surgery and chemotherapy which had left him severely impaired but the doctors wanted to do both again because they reckoned they could keep him alive another 3-5 years, this of course was alive under constant medical care, in a wheelchair, unable to communicate and the parents were saying no, enough already.
The second was even sadder a girl with severe mental deficits who had to be tube fed every day, the child had no understanding of what was going on and would scream and carry on until sedated for her tube feeding every day. She was never going to have the mental capacity to understand what was going on and she was always going to require tube feeding, her parents wanted treatment withdrawn and their daughter allowed to die because they did not think it was fair to put her through this endlessly, as far as they were concerned it amounted to torture.
I've also watched adults with cancer and untreatable psoriasis beg to die because after a while the pain relief doesn't work anymore, and think we should treat them at least as well as we treat our pets

Kimba Level 7 Apr 29, 2018
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For people with terminal illnesses, it's a peaceful way out of a painful demise. It should be legal.

Marz Level 7 Apr 29, 2018
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I am mostly for it depending on the case, but I think it’s a horrible thing to ask of another person, regardless of whether they say yes or no.

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Tough question. I would never do it myself but I don't really see the problem in allowing someone who wants to die to end their own life. My personal view would probably change if I were diagnosed with inoperable cancer or some other terminal issue.

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It is the only humane choice. You don't have to agree with people's reasoning. You do have to respect their choice. Even the right to make what you consider a 'bad' choice (i realise i am widening the debate here, apologies to the O.P.) Otherwise you are a monster.

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Absolutely! Why suffer longer than necessary?!

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Only person I'll assist in suicide is my ex wether she knows it is another qurstion....?

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If you need someone to be there ,it's okay otherwise Robin Williams used a necktie in a very painless way.

I have COPD, running out of oxygen is not pleasant nor painless.Ask an ME about how final facial features are from someone slowly strangling to death. Gruesome.

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I am for it.

I don’t think a terminal diagnosis should be required.

There should be a waiting period of 6 months to 1 year when there is no terminal illness involved in making the decision.

I don’t think family should have any say.

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That it should be legal and a decision to be made between the person, their doctor, and thirdly the family of the person as they wish.

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All for it.
By any one at any time for any reason.

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Yes. I would love for my state (VA) to pass "death with dignity" legislation.

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It should be legal in every state. Every person has a right to determine their fate.

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In terms of physical pain, vegetated state or other states that a person hasn't any quality of life I say yes. I say no to mental illness though for this simple reason, they aren't capable of making a rational decision. If you have a mental illness you know what I'm talking about , your moods swing wild and thoughts of suicide run thru your mind, but in most cases subsides, talked out of or other types of care. I've been there.

Not all mental illnesses make someone incapable of rational thought or decisions. That's a common misconception that has historically and continues to be used to deny people rights and authority over their own bodies. Mental illness can also make someone unable to think rationally about certain things, while being able to do so for other things. I know my moods swing for a variety of reasons both mental and physical. However, suicidal intent has been consistent every day, regardless of mood, for over two years.

There is no inherent value or need for life to exist, it's value is only circumstantial and individual. It is more irrational to choose to continue experiencing unnecessary suffering, particularly when you don't have that personal/subjective desire to live, than to end it and return to a state of non-existence where hypothetical timelines where they got better don't matter, and they're not being negatively affected or able to experience being deprived of that potential. Even if someone's condition could (possibly) be cured at some point in the future, they should not be forced to endure unnecessary suffering for however long that takes. And their experiences with that condition can continue to have a detrimental effect, even if they no longer have the condition itself. Additionally, conditions that aren't constant, but are recurrent can still have a huge impact on quality of life, let alone ability and desire to build it (the bigger they are, the harder they fall. It would certainly be much worse to make kids dependant on you during a remission, and have the family you've built, or career you've worked so hard on, etc. to fall apart when your condition inevitably affects you again). Even some of my symptoms that come in waves do not make life worth living because there are some breaks between them. I would rather die during a relatively peaceful period, than stick around so I can experience them over and over and over for decades.

The majority of society's view on life is strongly reminiscent of Stockholm Syndrome, and not sane or rational. While I support their right to choose to continue living despite its irrationality and harm to them, it does not mean they should be in a position to restrict rights for people who don't think or feel the same.

@Aerihk We have a Mental Health Support Group here , we have about 190 members. We help each other dealing with emotional issues and general issues that crop up in daily life and offer advice or just to rant sometimes. You may want to check it out and see if it appeals to you.
Just go to the groups list and look us up.You can read comments but in order to post you will have to join.

@buzz13 While appreciate you trying to be helpful, given your beliefs about people with mental illnesses' (in)ability to make rational decisions that aren't just impulsive, your endorsement of that group is not encouraging.

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When they knock you out and pull out the tubes and you are gone in 3 days, it amounts to the same thing. It'd be easier, not to mention less expensive, if they just gave you a quick shot of potassium chloride after you go unconscious.

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I think it should be treated as a will that a person would need to set up before hand-only because it would solve any competency arguments.

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Allowed and legal in all reasonable cases. My condition would be that there be an underlying physical cause of the pain and suffering.

So only illegal if a health individual was assisted in suicide because of a mental anguish alone.

Very interesting topic. Playing devil's advocate, what if said mental anguish was incurable? The brain is an organ and susceptible to organic disease like any other.
Excluding the muddy waters of psychology.

@inkdabink I honestly don't know. So for instance, suppose someone had severe, incurable schizophrenia or Alzheimer's. Would they be eligible? I suppose so but then I don't know how one could find a "line" to draw so maybe the slippery slope argument then wins.

Maybe I could say that there has to be a measurable physical manifestation. This could be true in both of the cases mentioned as both have significant and measurable physical manifestations once diagnosed.

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The patient should display a consistent desire to end their life over a set period of time (perhaps reduced if they are suffering especially.) Two qualified doctors should certify that their quality of life is below an acceptable standard, and is unlikely to improve to become above that standard. And those statements to be put before an independent panel for majority approval. Where the patient is unable to communicate their desire to live or die, next of kin should be allowed to speak on their behalf.

I'm not sure about doing it preemptively (a patient diagnosed with something degenerative, choosing to end their life while still relatively fit and well.) I'm not really sure of the 'of sound mind' clause, either. I would rather see this based on the criteria above than see someone denied the opportunity to end their pain and misery simply because they have a mental health condition diagnosed.

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In favour of it, especially in cases of terminal diseases. Unlike many people, I also favour it for people who are suffering psychologically. Although I believe all other options should be exhausted first. I don't believe I have the right to impose suffering or death on anyone else.

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If suffering and have a limited time to live it should be a right but does need some control to make sure there is no better option

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Why not if you have an medical issue, as for someone who can't take it anymore; that's their problem.

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The one thing no one is talking about is the financial impact this would have on those left behind. I'm pretty sure that suicide, negates all proceeds of any life insurance policies.

Fryan Level 5 Apr 30, 2018
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