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Body cameras.

I saw this item on the internet today.
It is a personal body cam.
I haven't looked into it yet.
I'd love to hear thoughts and opinions on this from our community here on Agnostic.

Unity 8 Mar 4
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It would be useful in the situation when your word against theirs and you have video to back your side of the story. I'm thinking they will become the norm.

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I'd be curious how easy it would be for an attacker to turn it off during an altercation, and similarly how easy it would be for the wearer to turn it on in an emergency situation. Could an attacker simply cover up the lens with fabric or tape, or rip it off the wearer and toss it aside?

Still, if one is concerned about being treated unfairly or being attacked, it would be helpful to wear in situations where there is real fear or possibilities of something bad happening.

On the other hand, I can see how it could also be used to invade the privacy of innocent people, someone on a date, for example, might not want to be recorded in intimate or affectionate circumstances. As with anything, appropriate use is one thing, and inappropriate use is another.

Something like this would have been helpful when I was complaining of being harassed by someone and those I was reporting it to didn't believe me. It would either have been a deterrent or proof of the harassment, since it only happened when others weren't around to witness.

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It makes me sad to have to say this, but if l were a person of color, l would certainly have to give it serious consideration.

You're damned right, if I was colored, I would just expect shit every time from the cops, so I would want to have it on me and ready at all traffic stops to protect myself and have the evidence to nail the cops. My friend that I wrote about below was railroaded, because even tho he was white, tho half Cherokee, he had long hair and looked too much like a hippie and lowlife to the short, white, butch-haircut young Nazi cop that pulled him over, so he may as well have been colored, except that if he were, there probably would have been physical abuse added.

@TomMcGiverin Colored?? What year is it where you are?

@Secretguy Semantics. I don't bow to PC, but you know what I meant, POC or whatever. My point stands..

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I've entertained the thought of getting one of these. I'm sure you can imagine the situations I've encountered while solo-traveling. In times I've called police for help with being harassed, the response was that maybe I "need directions to somewhere else", as in go to a different state. So my dashcam isnt for accidents as much as it is to record evidence of other people's behavior, including the police. Pulling out a phone is useful, but it misses the initial instigation that caused the need for it to begin with, which has in some cases lead some of them to flat out lie about their involvement in those initial moments. What a world.

Late in replying to you on this one, another thing about pulling up or out a phone is that you can be shot. Some think my remarks are extreme on this but I read things and if stopped I always explain to the police every move that I am making. This makes a body cam a better idea.

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I loath the idea of getting a smartphone, but after what recently happened to a friend of mine, getting pulled over late at night by a cop who was out trolling for drunk drivers, and determined to arrest my friend on a DUI charge so he could put a notch in his belt, I would recommend everybody have something handy to record any traffic stops with the cops, to protect themselves from being railroaded like my friend was. He ended up being taken to jail, even tho he was not intoxicated, because he refused a breathalyzer tests, on principle, as well as to do a field sobriety test. He refused the breathalyzer because he didn't trust the cop to not tamper with it and also didn't want to blow into something that had been used with other people and risk getting Covid from it. He couldn't walk the field sobriety test, because he has a bad foot that has had several surgeries on it, and he had bloodshot eyes, according to the cop, because he had had three cataract surgeries within a month and a half before the stop. The cop was unwilling to listen to or accept any of his reasons for the bloodshot eyes and foot, and instead was clearly determined to send him to jail, claiming he was "swerving" before being pulled over, but refused to show my friend the dashcam evidence of him swerving before being stopped. My friend is planning to sue the cop and his department for false arrest, and I think he will win, if he can find a lawyer to take his case. He has already talked with one and thinks that lawyer will work with him.

A local college kid recently did the same thing, sued for false arrest on a bogus DUI charge, and is asking for 1.2 Mil, so it might be a big payday if he can win.

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I could certainly understand why persons of color would consider employing this device. Being an old, white, female, I am less likely to need this device EXCEPT when I participate in various civil demonstrations. So, as I plan to continue to March and Demonstrate, I will consider purchasing a similar, better-rated device.

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Given the behavior of many people today it could come in handy. I've ranted before about the horrible drivers AND pedestrians here in Ellensburg and a dash cam would have been real nice one day as I was driving home from the store.
The intersection where the bus stops in from of Safeway can be tricky and so I'm south on Ruby, the northbound bus has stopped and let off passengers. A woman engrossed with her phone steps from behind the bus, she is in the cross walk. I step on the brake and come to a complete stop but my brakes squeaked and this startled her. She looks up from her phone and starts yelling gesturing at me very aggressively. I rolled up my window and locked the doors and flipped her the middle finger. She finally moved on to the sidewalk and I continued on home, just a bit frazzled. I had gotten the groceries put away when the phone rang. It was an Ellensburg police officer asking me if I had hit a woman in the crosswalk on Ruby Street in front of the Safeway! Yeah the crazy claimed I hit her. I was SOOOOOOO
pissed but apparently the officer believed me as it went no further.
I am also thinking about some sort of personal camera. I'm one of those people that don't like i-phones. I have a flip top for emergencies but usually don't carry it around with me. It does have a camera.
I loathe shopping. LOL

Off and on I keep thinking of buying a dash cam. They are fairly reasonably priced, and I was at Best Buy the other day to pick up some printer ink and checking them out. I was really close to buying one, but for the small amount of driving I do, it just seems like it wouldn't be worth the effort to turn it on.

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I think it might come in handy when you go to purchase insurance, and they tell you what you would be covered for, just in case you ever have to file a claim, because they will try to deny you.

It might also be good to have when you go to purchase a car, so you can prove if a salesperson misrepresents what they are selling.

However, I would not bother purchasing anything that had less than a 4 star rating. In fact I seldom purchase anything with less than a 4.5 star rating. The price and rating on this item both seem a bit low, and I would doubt the quality of the item.

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Cameras like this one and some wireless connected security cameras have gotten to be pretty inexpensive. Unfortunately they are mixed in with a lot of junk. So without prior experience, trial and error is about the only way to find out for sure. However, You can find them with all the functionality you want for less than $50 a copy, it just takes some searching and luck. Enjoy!!

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At $79.99, it can’t be very good.

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Are you working for Walmart now?

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Was soon considering getting a WiFi or Bluetooth-enabled surveillance camera myself, and coincidentally was looking on Walmart.com. Depends on what purpose you had in mind, general home surveillance while you're out and about, or to have a standalone mini camera with you wherever you go? Was also looking at compact underwater cameras too.

These days, never know what situations one could suddenly find themselves in where having a mini camera would come in handy. Still debating on whether I settle on a body camera or an underwater smart camera. Not sure what to say, depends largely upon your intended use. I think that's a reasonable price for that particular type of camera. This was one of them I was looking at recently-
[walmart.com]

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It would be a way for onlookers to record an "arrest". But since everyone has phones, it seems a little superfluous.

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