"Everything you know about the Bible is wrong"
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Everything about this article is apologist. I have read many papers and books written by scholars. They can be very difficult reads. I could not for the life of me figure out where this was going. I then recognized the marks of apologetics attempting to appear scholarly. Apologist specialize in throwing out information and then twisting it to confuse those receiving the information simply to make themselves look smart and establish themselves as authorities.
This was ment to appear scientific and assert that the Bible is a historical document while craftily ignoring science. The title is however correct in most cases.
DavidLaDeau
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May 3, 2018
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"This was ment to appear scientific and assert that the Bible is a historical document while craftily ignoring science."
you gotta be kidding me, right? are we reading the same stuff here?
Statement of Faith
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Quantum Mechanics for Beginners
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David, i can only say i don't see how you would feel that way in a week, if you read some every day. To each his own though. I get virtually the opposite impression.
"A proper scientific theory is able to do two things: (1) explain past observations by means of a underlying system that is not directly visible, and (2) predict which observations will be made next (HEBREWS 11:1). And someone who respects this scientific method stands like a deeply rooted tree"
fwiw he goes on to completely trash the religious notion of faith in "Pistis," and builds on this brief
"Altars and sacrifice in the Bible
— Elements of human cognitive psychology —"
haven't even read it yet
"Folks who try to make others "choose" to have faith, and who get angry when the answer is "no", really only want to sign them up to their club. You can't choose to have faith just like you can't choose to fall in love."
"Humanity today is truly a hybrid of homo sapiens and a handful of other living beings and this arrangement is quite literally the cultural equivalent of endosymbiotic eukaryosynthesis."
"Our English verb "to believe", on the other hand, comes from the same root as the word "love" and is basically the same as "to belove" or "hold dear/feel sentimental about". The English noun "belief" is an emotional word, which implies a brittle link between lover and loved over a vast, gasping chasm of empty longing."
"Look on any church website, and you'll find statements of faith that go all over the place and sound wonderfully pious but are little more than hot air."
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can't find the one i'm looking for today, the article is too long. but hopefully the drift is made clear here
@bbyrd009 Perhaps I'm just a buffoon, I'm really about plain talk. They just put out a bunch of "stuff" and did not come to a clear conclusion or bother to tie it up clearly. Or perhaps today I am completely off my game....Thank you for the clarification. Also thank you for calling me out, I will have to examine it more carefully.
@DavidLaDeau ah well, you do have a point there, the guy is completely anti-determinist lol. Embrace the unknown and all that
@DavidLaDeau ps if you do ever read any of that crap on there lemme know tho ok
The article is wrong, right off the bat; of late computers have been able to find patterns that they haven't been specifically programmed to look for. That's what deep learning is all about.
Also, it isn't that Moses is under-appreciated by modern scholars; it's that there's no actual evidence he (or Joseph as an influential adviser to pharaohs, or the Egyptian disapora, or the exodus, or the 40 years wilderness wanderings) ever even existed, and so the scholarly consensus is far worse than the author imagines. It's true that, grasping at straws and deploying confirmation bias, various claims have been made. For example in recent years it's been alleged that Joseph was Imhotep and that a settlement dubbed Tel el-Daba was an Israeli settlement with a villa (could it have belonged to Joseph? Could it have belonged to Fred Flintstone is as valid a question).
Two strikes and he's out.
mordant
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May 3, 2018
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"and so the scholarly consensus is far worse than the author imagines."
well, he pretty much completely rejects the consensus, and would agree with you that a literal Moses is irrelevant at best, so i'm not sure what you read that you are deeming "wrong" here sorry
@mordant all i can tell you is that Moses is strictly a symbol to this guy, and you are maybe being unduly skeptical; to which Abarim would, btw, be cheering you on whole-heartedly. Bam stay skeptical, that is a good thing. I do not agree with everything this guy says either ok; but what you are inferring here is not correct imo
"In our humble view, "Moses" may be a literary device that represents the effort of a minority of unrelated people, to preserve humanity's wisdom; a spiritual force without a name or a face that nurtured our greatest treasure on the stormy waters of mankind's evolution..." italics mine
Mordant you were correct see my comment.
Care to expand upon that extremely vague comment perchance, bbyr009?
I hold a Doctorate Degree in Theology and Comparative Modern Religions btw.
Triphid
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May 2, 2018
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um, that was a quote, and i believe the point was to build upon the notion that it is Paul's "wolves" who have given us our current understanding of Scripture. You are surely more aware than most that the Bible was written Dialectically, a la Tao, and not Logically, the way we are taught to read It; so i don't want to say any more that would be perceived as telling you the obvious until we agree on some definitions in that area
[christianityboard.com] post 1, 19, 121, the last two for links
@bbyrd009 Well, after many years of studying to gain my Doctorate I can most honestly say that the 'bible' is very little more than a compendium of 'pirated' mythologies, legends and fairytales plagiarised from far older cultures than the primitive, savage, nomadic Hebrews who wrote (???) the Torah which makes up the first 5 books of the Christian 'Holy(???)' Book, aka, the Pentateuch.
there is absolutely NOTHING contained in the 'bible' that cannot be easily traced back to a far older culture/civilisation that existed both during the time of the Hebrews and well before they managed to coalesce from their original 13+ waring tribes of nomads into the belligerent, war-mongering peoples they are today.
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