I was in a conference once and got into a big debate with believers when I said, "religion cheapens life." To my mind it does because you have less respect for this life when you think you're moving on to the next one. To an atheist, you only go around once.
Your statement, "religion cheapens life", would seem to be highly applicable to radical islamists and, arguably perhaps even some hardcore fundie christians; and theoretically, or conceptually true, perhaps. But I don't see that run-of-the-mill christians view it the same way, generally, as radical islamists, or that even mainstream muslims necessarily hold the afterlife to be of greater value than life here, now. Just my thoughts...I may be wrong.
I guess that would depend on the individual person and what the quality of their life was like prior to "finding" religion as well as the religious teaching themselves. Religions have a lot of social structure that some people thrive on and others are limited by. Some of them actually encourage seeking outside their teachings and doing your own thinking (they do however expect you to come to the same conclusions they did). I personally think the same think about the American educational system and the political systems to mention a few.
My mother is a good example of someone that NEEDS to go to church in order to even make an effort at pretending to be kind so let her go, the world does not need her dark side completely unleashed lol.
Good point. Some people can't live without it. They need false hope.
The reason I'm so negative about it is I'm a Vietnam era person. It's a lot easier to get a young man marching into machine guns if he believes if he gets hit heavenly bliss awaits. Ayatollah Khomeini even gave teenagers keys to paradise to run in front of advancing tanks. So, to my mind their lives are cheaper than those kids that didn't believe.
@Aristopus Mind boggling isn't it? First they teach not to murder then send kids to war? I totally agree that our entire culture would have been better off without organizations of any kind that demand a rigid adherence to rituals.
A friend of mine was a hospice nurse, and she always noticed that the more religious the patient, the more they fought and struggled against dying. Hey, if ya got a good place to go to, why fight against going there? Never made much sense to me, but, then again, the Bible-thumpers have never made much sense to me.
Excellent point. I even made a joke about Billy Graham who recently died at 90 something. If he was so eager to be with Jesus why did he wait so long?
Yes, I think the conference people were correct.
I was at the conference also. Who do you agree with?
If practically possible, one should avoid religious freaks in the same way as one should avoid lunatics.
Are they not the same?
I find the best way to handle them is to politely correct their superstition with scientific facts. Most of it is hard to refute.
Not only that but with Christianity you can live an absolutely terrible life, ask for forgiveness at the end of it, and live forever in heaven. Just because you chose to believe in the right thing. Another person who lived a good life and didn't believe on bad evidence gets condemned to hell for eternity. That's a super crappy justice system.