He doesn’t deserve any of the negativity. He was a great president, fact.

This often seems the case with Democrats. Many understand their duty to serve the people of the country. Seems most Republicans only serve themselves or the ultra-wealthy.

What was good about his Presidency?

@Alienbeing [en.m.wikipedia.org].

@Flyingsaucesir The Camp David accords made such a big difference (not).

I guess you forgot, or maybe you are too young to remember the incredible interest rates under Carter, or the gasoline lines, or the fact that he allowed Iran to invade our embassy and hold hostages.

He was a horrible President.

@Alienbeing Hey lots of presidents have tried and failed to broker peace in the Levant.

None of the other stuff was really anything that any president could prevent.

@Flyingsaucesir Wrong! Initial proof is the day Reagan took over Iran released the prisoners. Iran knew Reagan was not a pussy cat as was Carter. Next, how come every other President was able to control interest rates by making good economic decisions.

Our current Administration almost hit Carter's high interest rates, but Carter still hold the all time record.

Now how about naming one thing he did that was good.

@Alienbeing I guess you don't remember the arms-for-hostages scandal, (AKA Iran-Contra affair) or Oliver North,...

[en.m.wikipedia.org].

Carter successfully pursued the Camp David Accords, the Panama Canal Treaties, and the second round of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks. He also confronted stagflation. His administration established the U.S. Department of Energy and the Department of Education.

@Flyingsaucesir Umm the arms for hostages and Iran - Contra were Reagan issues. I have been asking why you think Carter was a good President, not wht your opinion of Reagan was or remains.

Establishing the Dept of Education was a terrible thing, and creates unnecessary taxes for something already taxed by each State.

The other accomplishemts you noted are OK, nothing special.

@Alienbeing I would argue that the Department of Education helps the states achieve certain quality standards that they might not otherwise meet. For instance, without the influence of the DOE some states might leave out any mention of anthropomorphic climate change or Darwinian evolution from their science curricula.

Voting is a function that is totally the purview of the states, but look what happens when the federal Voting Rights Act is gutted: local laws are enacted that make it harder for people of certain demographics to vote. In other words, the minimum standard falls below an acceptable level.

There is another dimension to the presidency that we haven't mentioned. The president should set a good example, be a unifying force, raise the level of discourse. With Trump we have seen, are seeing what a really bad president can do: sow division, set a bad example, create permission structures for people to be their worst selves, and generally lower the level of discourse. This aspect of the presidency is at least as important as any other, IMHO.

@Flyingsaucesir If we didn't have to pay taxes to fund the Dept of Education then States could tax more for education (with the same net tax result) and have no issues obtaining quality standards.

I am not a Trump supported, so don't look to me to defend him. Conversely I am not Kamala supporter either. We are tuly faced with two poor candidates.

I have no objection to the Federal Government promulgating minimum voting and voting eligibility standards.

@Alienbeing We won't know for sure what kind of president Kamala will be until after she has held the job for a while. But I think she is well qualified and could potentially be very good. One thing I do know for sure: Trump would be a disaster, and she's not Trump.

@Flyingsaucesir There is nothing in her backgroud that qualifies her to be President, and her complicity in our Border fiasco is reason enough to avoid her.

@Alienbeing Trump is not interested in solutions. He killed the toughest border bill in 40 years because he wanted an issue to run on.

@Flyingsaucesir Trump rightfully helped kill that bill because it CLEARLY do nothing to slow illegal immigration.

Kamala spent the last 3+ years doing nothing.

@Alienbeing The bill would have provided $2.104 billion for border wall construction, $496.2 million for 1,500 additional Border Patrol Agents, $305.4 million for additional non-intrusive inspection technology, and $276 million for new border security technology. It would also have expanded the number of judges that could hear and rule on asylum claims. Once the backlog was cleared, up to 90% of asylum claimants would have been immediately deported instead of being released in the US to await their hearings. CLEARLY more than has been added to border security in a long, long time. But Trump killed the bill, because he would rather have the issue to run on than actually solve the problem. It was one of the most blatantly cynical and self-serving actions I have ever seen in American politics.

How will you look when/if you turn 100? At least he has his mental faculties intact.

@Organist1 lmao are you sure about that

@Communistbitch Yes.

@Organist1 that old man doesn't look like his mental faculties are intact. He looks like a corpse

@Communistbitch He has survived cancer that his doctors thought would kill him a long time ago. He just lost the love of his life, yet he wished to stay alive long enough to vote for Kamala. That makes him more with it than almost half the country.

@Organist1 sounds like a sad life to me.

@Communistbitch Carter did not live a sad life, and he is surrounded by love.

Don't worry, he is most likely dead most of the time mentally. They say he stayed alive so he could vote (like he would have any control over that other than suicide ) but that's a bunch of BS. I watched both of my parents go through this. Once they get to that stage, they're unable to do anything physically. They're just a shell waiting for the last couple of vital organs to shut down. The mind MAY still be there, but they can barely ever vocalize any coherent thoughts. Very sad condition to witness. Once my parents got to this stage of 'mouth open, eyes closed and asleep 95% of the time', it's usually just a matter of days. But don't worry, if the DNC has their way, he'll vote again next election. I want to see a video of him filling out his ballot. Don't care how, by hand, or even an eye tracking device on a computer. If you can't do it yourself, you can't vote. Otherwise, how do we know the one doing it for you actually does it correctly? There needs to be a way of verifying.

@Organist1 voting for kamala is an achievement? I don't think so. Maybe living to 100 is, but you didn't describe a happy life

@Communistbitch What do you think Jimmie Carter's achievements of the past decades have been? Do you think they made him happy? They seem to have made others happy. To a nice person like him, that describes a happy life. Some people live to make others happy. Other people like Trump live to make people miserable. I choose Carter's approach. How about you?

@Organist1 yeah I don't think so. I don't think neither one of these fools know who we are, or even give a fuck, it's part of your sick delusion.

@Communistbitch "either", not "neither."

@Organist1 I used to know a family that lived in one of the many houses built by Jimmy's organization, Habitat For Humanity. Without that house they would have been out on the street.

@Flyingsaucesir Jimmie Carter seems to have been one of the most selfless people in public life. I so wish there were more like him. My son used to work in a Habitat store as a volunteer. They furnished lots of peoples' houses for very little money.

Ja.

Biden did not win because he was an outstanding candidate. He simply was not Trump. The problem is that the odour of Trump's term has dissipated since.