As a Canadian I have always wondered why Americans seem to all fly American flags outside of their houses, wear stars and stripes and even display the flag anywhere and everywhere they can. Canadians are not the only ones who wonder this. Many world tourists wonder the same thing. One tourist I knew from the Netherlands actually wondered if it was to remember what country they lived in. LOL. Not a serious question, just curious.
Not all Americans are flag-waving, gun-loving buffons. Hillary Clinton won over three million votes than the Orange Cheeto. There's a Blue Wave coming.
Vote Republicans out of office!
@Crimson67, True.
It's sad that some people think of the US as flag-waving gun lovers. I don't. There are a great deal of gun owners here. But we don't own handguns for the most part. It has to be a very special circumstances in order to own and have a licence to conceal a hand gun.
Of course not every house has a flag in the front, but there are more than I'm personally comfortable with; to me it smacks of rabid nationalism, which is almost like a mental illness. I get maybe wanting to express your love of country on major national holidays, like 4th of July or Veteran's Day, etc., but the all day everyday displaying is the mark of zealotry, imo. The rest of it, the clothing, etc., is mostly marketing bullshit and solely commercialization.
What I don't get, and I don't know if others are seeing in their areas/states, is these new flags that are patterned on the Stars and Stripes, but are different colors, like shades of blue, or black and gray. WTF is up with that? Quite often they are attached in the beds of pickup trucks, and stream gloriously along like some perverted proclamation of parochial patriotism. Can anyone explain those to me?
Uh, not all of us do what you described above.
You are part of the population. Instead of going into denial, explain why they do it ?
@VAL3941 The denial is legitimate, I do not do as what was described above. I can only be me, how in the hell could I explain why and what other people do? Not that I give a damn though. Since you seem to think that I'm in denial, why don't you prove me guilty of such?
@SpikeTalon
OK !
@VAL3941 You are a confusing individual. In this very thread, you wrote, "You are part of the population. Instead of going into denial, explain why they do it ?" and now you are saying "Don't involve your self where you don't belong!"
Which is it? Explain for those I have no association with, or don't? This smells like trolling to me.
@VAL3941 While I am from the United States, I do not associate myself with those who are ultrapatriotic flag-wavers. SO, I am part of the population that includes those who were being questioned by the original poster and belong there, as such. However, I have no desire to explain the actions of those in my country who act with religious fervor whether it regards a deity or fervent patriotism beyond writing it off as illogical.
Well, probably for the same reason all Canadians drink maple syrup throughout the day.
with bacon and poutine
LOL Have you seen the price of maple syrup? I only drink it twice a week.
I didn't mean it as a derogatory statement, just as an observation especially shown on not only fictional TV and movies but non-fiction and documentaries as well. I guess they show what ever they feel is a good view of the country.
@BlueKitty indeed
Reasons vary. Self-aggrandizement is one. Hyper-insecurity is another. Or simply national pride. Or "the way I was raised" (Dad had a flag so I'll have a flag).
I don't have one at my home but I think I know a little about the mentality here.
As a Canadian I always found this in your face patriotism rather weird when I was living in the States, maybe because we are more low key about our patriotism in Canada.
As far as I can see, it's the blue collar, GOP, religious rednecks who do this, and often they also display a Confederate flag as well, as treasonous as that is.
They are commonly known to like fishin' and huntin' and often live in trailers in rural counties, and do work as mechanics, plumbers, construction.
These people are Trump's "base," since their churches equate politics, religion, and patriotism. They have been trained since babyhood to check their brains at the church door and obey older white men, as the voice of god.
It's good you live in Asia, we don't need accusations thrown around as to what specific careers are treasonous. Do us working class people, (I myself , before I retired, was an HVAC technician and I now live in a , 'trailer', in a low density area of Florida), keep your birding nut, 'I can't decide what sex I am, rhetoric in Asia. Please note: No offense is made nor implied to trans people as you are confident in your sexual status. Oh yes I am a social Democrat.
It's a subset of the US population that is flag rabid. In my area, largely lower income, rural, right voting folks are the most likely to do so.
My public elementary school, circa 1972, taught us to practically worship the US flag. We greatly feared becoming THAT kid who let the flag get wet or touch the ground as there would have been a very public flag burning ceremony as a result.
Oddly, my modern age flag crazy neighbors show the flag minimal respect at best, flying it at night, in the rain, flying it bleached and tattered, but they get to point their fingers at others for not respecting it properly. Go figure.
Don't even get me started on flying the confederate flag. I see about one of those for every 2-3 US flags.
Tribalism, connectivity, solidarity, sociability, and a human fundamental need to be part of something bigger than they are alone; they all play a part. And as a Canadian, I know many up here are also not immune from such needs. Especially the ex-brits who are in great supply around Victoria where i lived for 30 years. Lol
One thing the US governments inspire which we don't however, is a love for empire building, which requires money and commitment, and the support of the population. Motivating such support is called propaganda, which includes as much flag waving as possible. Check out other empires and wanna-be empires to see many of the same dynamics. Like military parades. Lol
This, and especially @Kodaksmom's reply, got me thinking. Not so long ago, the UK was a nation of flag-wavers too, and the Union flag and a portrait of the king or queen of the time could be found in most houses. It's notable that this was most common during the era in which Britain's empire reached its peak and then, gradually, fell apart, and is now very rare - which suggests a link between the declining prevalence of the display of flags and other national symbols and the population's transition from genuinely believing Britain was the best country in the world to hoping that maybe we could be again if we kept telling ourselves we really were, and finally to acceptance that we're not actually very important on the world stage any longer.
The prevalence of flag-waving and display of national symbols in the USA seems to be following a similar pattern. The US empire rose after the British empire (indeed, the Second World War could be seen as the point at which Britain handed over the title of Most Important Nation to the US) and reached a peak in the 1950s and 1960s when Americans really believed their country was the best in the world. US supremacy gives every indication of being in decline now, and so just as was the case in Britain the flags are being waved more and the dial has been turned up on the patriotic rhetoric as the nation tries to convince itself that the golden age is not yet over. The rhetoric and deep desire to not accept that America's current problems are probably permanent, rather than merely a short down-turn, also explains how Trump became president - the majority of Americans are more than intelligent enough to see through his lies and realise neither he nor anyone else can Make America Great Again, but they voted for him anyway out of desperation, hoping that maybe he really could bring the good times back.
In the coming decades, as nations such as China and (probably) Brazil (and, perhaps even more relevant, the new breed of stateless mega-rich oligarchs) become richer and richer, gain more worldwide political power and eventually eclipse the USA just as the USA eclipsed Britain, I suspect Americans will gradually come to accept their new place in the world and will stop flying the flag quite so much as now.
I think you may have put your finger on something there.
I actually used to have an inverted US flag hanging in my bedroom, not sure if that counts or not.
Its because people buy flags, clothing and any merchandise with the red, white and blue since 9-11.
Canada is in America
You need to go back to school
@Jolanta not in Canada if they don't know basic geography. (https://www.britannica.com)
I've had that discussion many times with American expats in South America, it never ends well. The other misnomer is Central America which is another US invention, there are two continents that compose America, North and South but no Central.
@Jolanta The US of A have co-opted the term America for themselves even though the United States of America makes up a small percentage of the overall land mass of The Americas. Some 'Americans' go so far as to extend their right of Manifest Destiny to any place their boots touch the ground, so it shouldn't be surprising that they have claimed the whole thing for themselves.
@SallyMc so far your tactics consist of insulting my position and ridiculing the other guy's spelling.
Are you sure you're on the right site?
@SallyMc You're digging yourself deeper.
It is a stereotype perpetuated by ignorance. We don't "all fly American flags outside of [our] houses, wear stars and stripes and even display the flag anywhere and everywhere [we] can." Not even close! Yes, there are those who do that, Just like there are Canadians who act like Bob and Doug McKenzie. Bob and Doug's behaviors are certainly not representative of "all" Canadians, though the stereotype they represent probably rings true in some circles like the flag thing does here.
Of course, thinking more about it, if your friend from the Netherlands happened to visit somewhere near Independence Day or Memorial Day, the impression might well come across differently.
I have seen plenty of maple leaves, on flags, porch banners, etc. While traveling in Quebec!
this is interesting! I found the rule and etiquette to fly the US flag here:
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but if you want to download the pdf file it is located at a site owned by Amazon (amazonaws.com).
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As the "tall kid" I was the American Flag carrier on two different color guards, and I had to learn all the rules about displaying the flag. Displaying "flag images" is traditional in many countries I've seen. Wearing a flag pin is really only appropriate in a multinational meeting or event. I have a "flag image" on my briefcase for "liberal" political purposes; I want people to see that cycling is a "patriotic" means of transportation. I used to put flag decals on all of my bikes, since they cross borders from time to time, but I gave up when the Chinese-made decal sets didn't come with starboard-side flags. Any house on a shore (ocean/gulf/great lakes) is more or less required to fly a flag, but that's never enforced. Flying a flag from your car without replacing it when it inevitably gets ragged is a no-no. I think it's an error on the part of the left to not do liberal activities without flags or flag images; after all, the U.S. is the very definition of what a Liberal Democracy is. Usually.
There are plenty of countries that run on a very democratic system. Canada is one of them. As for the Queen, she is a figure head only. She is asked if elections can be held and a few other things but there is never any interference in such matters. I doubt if she was asked about marijuana legalization which comes in effect on Canada Day. July 1st. OH CANADA!
For the freedom it represents. I love my country even if its in a rut right now. Opportunity is all around us here. You can be all you want to be. I trudged sometimes and had it easy. It all came together and im retired. Ive seen other countries and i always want to come back to America.
I got to agree, there are no English flags hanging here
America ?? the least said the better !
Canada is America
@CallMeDave
So why do so many Canadians deny it ?
@VAL3941 Why did the chicken cross the road?
@CallMeDave
To get to the other side but obiously you are on the far side !
@CallMeDave then people living in the USA should be called Americans of the United States, United Statians or USAns?
@Lukian we are Americans. And so are the Canadians and so are the Mexicans and so are the Chilean and so are the Venezuelan
@CallMeDave so Canadians are Americans so what are the Americans bordering Canada called? Do you live in an country with no name?
@Lukian I have been through the desert. On a horse. With no name.
It's a problem. I don't want to coopt the entire continent, but I don't know a good replacement term.
@CallMeDave That is precisely the point and the reason this discussion never ends well. My hat to you for keeping it civilized.
As an additional note, many Europeans have commented that the USA is actually a country with no name.