Perhaps Oh High and Sagacious One may wish to occasionally remove his "shades" thus opening his eyes and actually reading the dictionary definitions re- secular, after all it may save the Californian Messiah from having to contend with so cases of human "Foot in Mouth" syndrome.
For example, SECULAR-
DEf.1) - NOT connected or of Religious or Spiritual matters ( the definition that applies, for the most, to this site and some of its groups,
Def. 2) -re Christian Church and Church Clerics i,e, Priests, Ministers, etc, etc, NOT bound to or subject to any specific/defined religious Order/s, etc, etc, not a member/part of a monastery, etc, etc.
See, Oh Great, Wise and eternally vociferous One we peasant who refrain from wearing sunglasses (aka shades) have actually learned a whole by doing so.

@Triphid What's your point? Or is this just another in a series of baseless ad hominem attacks?

@Flyingsaucesir No not attacking as per your assessment/opinion, merely expressing MY OWN opinion in regards to your vanity, etc, etc, as per what I perceive you self-righteous arrogance.
Perhaps it may serve you well should you TRY to remember the old adage of, "If you cannot handle then, then it is BEST to stay out of the Kitchen."

@Triphid So quoting dictionary entries is just window dressing? You have no point beyond railing against my supposed arrogance? That, my friend, makes it ad hominem. But thanks for sharing!

@Flyingsaucesir No being able read, write and cite the true and actual MEANINGS of words, etc, shows that one has been EDUCATED and KNOWS how to use it.

Nothing kills religion though as quickly as making it an arm of state. When you do that, you deprive it of its free alternate voice, and you make it, in part, responsible for every failing of government. Religion dies under state ownership. If you look, all the most secular countries in the developed world, (Third world may be different.) have state chuches. Whereas in the USA, where you have separation and in Russia where for many years they tried to ban religion, the churches thrive.

I shall dig a little deeper. I find it intriguing that the Nordic countries are the world's most secular countries despite the fact that they are predominantly Christian.

@PapPap Except that most of the Nordic people seem to like their governments.

@Flyingsaucesir Yes but they are not all that fond of their churches, and would you really want to go to the IRS office for a Sunday social ? LOL

@Fernapple I don't think it works that way, but no

@Flyingsaucesir, @PapPap I believe that the Nordic governments are the least corrupt in the world. I saw a survey indicating that somewhere. See if I can find it.

@Ryo1 That sounds about right.