We are in a new geological era. "The Age of Man" aka The Anthropozene Era. The Jurassic Era has come and gone, as have all the ERA"S, now a new geological era, and it is not geology, it is just humans. Do you find this alarming?
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Yeah pretty strange. So it's really official now? For very distant future geologists it's likely that the Anthropozene Era will be marked by the absence of new limestone formations etc. as ocean acidification kills the coral & other creatures that have calcium shells or exoskeletons....
Carin
Level 8
Apr 3, 2019
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Oh goody, another group for me. Right now I am reading "1491" and, coincidentally the March issue came out in the National Geographic which only highlighted a situation initially covered in the book.
[nationalgeographic.com]
Facts are overwhelming; many dynasties collapsed because they "overshoot the carrying capacity of their resource base. They exhausted the resource base, begin to die of starvation and thirst, and fled their cities en masse, leaving them as silent warnings of the perils of ecological hubris." Sound familiar?
Welcome to the doom and gloom club!
JackPedigo
Level 9
Apr 2, 2019
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The doom and gloom club, I knew this sounded familiar as ill luck favors a familiar face!! Thank you for our support!!!
@aahouck49 I fully understand the proclivity of people who don't want to hear something say it's "Doom and Gloom". The corollary is "Smile and Denial(Denial is not just a river in Egypt). I have wanted for a long time to find a rational comment and came up with know and... I couldn't get the end but when I asked my late partner she immediately said "Know and Grow." That is the area we should go to not the two emotion based extremes.
I had meant to reply to your book from 1491! Sound familiar? There is a famous historian, cannot remember her name, but she wrote a book on the time, 1400's, and said the average age was 14 and she compared that time to our time and thought these two time eras were so similar to our time. Reading about Joan of Arc and lousy King Charles of France??? Not to mention the English, this may also all been about the time of the WAR OF THE ROSES, two noble houses of Britain,and they fought for 100 years, and it was some kind of vicious , just heard someone describe that show Game of Thrones, shows how brutal they were AND why the writer of these books refused to allow a movie to be made, he said they would turn it into a Disney movie and he felt it necessary to show the brutality of those times, esp to women, so this 100 year old war led to someone other noble family, the future King Henry the 8th!!! The TUDORS!!
@aahouck49 I think you might be talking about the famous Barbara Tuchman and the book was "A Distant Mirror - The calamitous 14th Century (I majored in European History at the University). I have that book (it is massive) and started reading it. However, history interpretation constantly changes and what we thought we knew before we find we really didn't.
Funny, tonight is our library's "literary Salon" [lopezlibrary.org] and I will report on "1491". One thing I learned, at the end, was that "...nobody disputes that the Haudenosaunee exemplified the formidable tradition of limited government and personal autonomy shared by many cultures north of the Rio Grande. To some extent, this freedom simply reflected north American Indians' recent adoption of agriculture. Early farming villages (worldwide) parenthese mine - were much less authoritarian places than later societies.. But the Indians of the eastern seaboard institutionalized their liberty to an unusual extent... Important historically these were free people encountered by France and Britain - personifications of democratic self-government so vivid that some historians and activists have argued that the Great Law of Peace directly inspired the U.S. Constitution."
The Europeans, at this time were much larger and centralized societies and, again, the simple fact that resource depletion because of too many demands promote a loss of freedoms and peace. Again, population demographics at work and we continue to ignore this at our own peril. Thanks for the comment.
I find alarming the resurgent rise of an era of nationalism and fascism not just here in the US, but also all over the world.
- The fascist negations (anti-liberalism, anti-intellectualism, and anti-conservatism);
- nationalist authoritarian goals of creating a regulated economic structure to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture; and
- a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence, and promotion of masculinity, youth, and charismatic leadership.
Fascism—especially once in power—has historically attacked and deligitimizes communism, conservatism, and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the far-right.
Three main strands in fascism exist. First, Payne's "fascist negations" refers to such typical policies of doing anti-communism and anti-liberalism. Second, "fascist goals" include a nationalist dictatorship and an expanded empire usually in partnership with thugs and despots. Third, "fascist style" which emphasises violence and authoritarianism and its exultation of men above women and young against old.
MrLink
Level 8
Apr 2, 2019
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Well done, erudite are ye for sure!! All the flag waving is nothing but nationalism, I do not like nationalism, authoritarian goals or people and romance, do let us be make it sound so romantic! This reminds me of my sociology classes and economic classes! The Big Three of Fascism. It is starting to look like 1933, however then again like 1919. These are the wicked of the world that prosper!! Very well written, however it did not improve my mood!!!
It is not about people but reactions to outside causes. We are struggling for resources and the competition has turned local and nasty. I feel many of us look for scapegoats instead of real issues which only exacerbate the problems.
Im not gonna lie, I googled all that stuff. Ha ha! But seriously, i am afraid that what what should be a story of enlightenment, is about to be all brought to and end by this resurgence of authoritarianism. We may have just gotten lucky in the 1940's when the good guys won. Trying to stay optimistic though!
Strange indeed. What is the source?
marlayne
Level 5
Apr 2, 2019
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Science articles, science magazines, research, anthropology and geology, if I make a statement like this, it as always been researched and verified. Also I taught these subjects. Is it strange or is it the fact that we have decimated thousands of species and it continues 24/7 365. Hope this helps, be glad to answer any question you may have about this. I did not like it when I read it either, it depresses me!!
There are lots of sources and Jared Diamonds "Collapse" is a good place to start.
@JackPedigo Love his work!
The Anthropocene represents that period of time in which the human beings changed the features of their environment permantly. Such activities as city building, agriculture, mining, hunting to extinction (a source of great geological and anthropological debate) whereby the surface of the Earth became petmantly changed by the results of human activity.
This Epoch naming is roughly equivalent to the end of the ice age (Pleistocene -12,000 yrs ago) and the end of the Holocene (9,000 - 7,000 yrs ago). The culmination of a cold dry period, to a warmet, drier period. Offered to replace the name Holocene.
Archaeologically, when I was working in the field in the SW United States, the period berween 12,000 yrs to 9,000 yrs was represented by a culture assemblaged known a paleo hunters. The period between 9,000 yrs and 7,000 yrs was represented by a culture known as the Archaic. Big game hunters gave way to hunters and gathers.
t1nick
Level 8
Apr 1, 2019
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I've always found Humans Arrogance towards their importance in nature quite Alarming
ScienceBill72
Level 7
Apr 1, 2019
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"LIKE" .Manual button not working. I do not know that however dramatic it has gone on for long enough yet to appear in the fossil record in say 50 million years, though I suppose some architectiure may.
It's very anthropocentric. And it really shows our propensity for extreme egoism. We may be the current dominant species, but naming a geological era after our species seems a little misguided to me. And unhealthy.
Piratefish
Level 7
Apr 1, 2019
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Just wait until we get to the Post-Anthropozene Era, I'll find that very alarming.
Surfpirate
Level 9
Apr 1, 2019
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Yes cause we Human are killing the only planet we live on..
Charlene
Level 9
Apr 1, 2019
1
The planet has survived all manner of extinction events and it is just fine, humans on the other hand are pretty much screwed and it's through our own actions.
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