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MikeFlora 7 June 13
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I've seen this a long time ago. First you would need probably two tax stamps to get it. It's an SBR, AND select. The US version that are planning on releasing has 2 16" barrens and is semi-auto. It has two triggers, so it's not considered a "machine gun". The ATF says you don't need a tax stamp if one round is fired per pull of the trigger. That's why bumpfire is legal in most states. I'm not too worried about this causing lots of death in the US. First people that can afford a rifle like this (even the legal US version) don't tend to be criminals. I did get an estimate once for the heck of it. I want to say they are like 4-5K, but I don't think the final price has been set. If you wanted to do a mass shooting, you can buy a cheap AR-15, or semiautomatic shotgun for about $300. But I agree, there is not any realistic reason for a civilian to own one. It'd be fun to shoot, but about it. I know a lot of people say they are good for home defense, but there are far better options.

overkill!

@MikeFlora Maybe they are just a terrible shot. lol

"Good for home defense." Ha! 😀 The bullets would go through the home invader, through the wall behind him, through the back yard fence, through your neighbor's house wall and through your neighbor. Not good. Besides a long barrel is not good indoors. A pistol is better wielding around inside.

@dare2dream I already mentioned that there are far better options. Your statement is a bit of an exaggeration tho about how far it will go. Yeah it will go through the person, and probably a wall. I've done ballistics tests, and from 50' your off-the-shelf non-specialty rounds will go through a 2 1/2" schedule 40 pipe! Your standard .223 is quite a bit different than the NATO 5.56X45. .223 is usually 55 grain projectile. 5.56X45 is 62. They are designed to cause more damage to the human body. They travel at slower FPS. With that being said, you can do a lot of things to prevent home invasion in the first place. One easy and cheap thing you can do is replace the screws on your door for the striker plate. The ones that come with it are small, and can be easily broken. Go to a hardware store, and replace them with 2 1/2" screws! Costs literally pennies. Also get a dead bolt. A lot of people don't realize that lots of home invasions are done by someone you know, and probably someone that was in your house. They know when you go to work, when you go to sleep. Maybe even know when you sit on the toilet! You need to know your entrance and exit points. If I was invaded, they would have to break through a minim of two doors. It would take a SWAT team and a battering ram to get into mine. The thing about home invasion is you need to know how to prevent it.

@TheGreatShadow maybe they're expecting a gang of 200 people to break in and steal their computer or TV

@Kojaksmom If they make that many people mad, they need to move. lol

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Human beings are violent. History supports nothing else. Eventually, humans will be too much of a burr in Mother Nature's saddle and she will take them out. All of them.

GuyKeith Level 8 June 13, 2018

Yeah I think so too. We could thing how great we are human beings but the fact of the matter is I think we're on the downside of the slippery slope. No doubt the human animal is headed for extinction

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Won't even go to the link but I am sure there is a lot of science involved.

No just a double barrel Ar-15.

@TheGreatShadow that is science... nasty science. In other words... they didn't went to see a plumber to design the double barrel. And thank you for the information provided. Just in my head feels like a nasty piece of equipment with no place for it in humans environment.

@TheGreatShadow something that every new mother needs to protect her beautiful shining little offspring. Lol!

@Kojaksmom Why not. lol Muzzle breaks/flash hiders (witch ever you prefer) are VERY loud! Two at one time? I have seen firearms go off in houses. a .22 LR going of in a house is loud! You were probably joking about defending an infant. If it's a home defense situation, you use that thing, and your infant is constipaded, you won't have to worry about the constipation!

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Unfuckingbelievable!

kmdskit3 Level 8 June 13, 2018
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This is a military style weapon and should not be available to ordinary citizens just like the 50 cal. machine gun.

dare2dream Level 7 June 13, 2018

It's not exactlly something you can find at a gun show or gun store. They aren't the weapon of choice for mass shootings. Very hard to get, and very expensive. Plus if it is select, you need a tax stamp. I really don't see someone going on a killing spree walking around with something that has a 30" barrel. Plus they are heavy, and reload ammo (if you buy in bulk) is about $6 a round.

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1 barrel at a time wasn't enough!

MikeFlora Level 7 June 13, 2018

@SpikeTalon What did you expect, if I don't like regular assault weapons I sure as hell don't like squishing two of them together to make one.

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Geeze, more insanity and it's available to the public. Why???

We all know why, profits for the industry. To them it's a win-win situation, more jobs and fewer people needing jobs. This industry is the same as the drug industry except it is legal.

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