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Have you been catching Biden's transitioning team announcements and Clintonite advisor who has been by his side for decades? Nothing speaks "nothing will fundamentally change" any louder than what the horse has already promised wall street than this news. Well, that's one promise kept. It just doesn't benefit us though. More social welfare for the ruling class on the way. More colonialism for the world. More to blow up and innocent deaths.

William_Mary 8 Nov 13
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it will never get any better, only worse.
to quote G. Carlin: “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

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Don't say any of this to a centrist Dem. They'll just get angry at you for "harshing their vibe", as if they really cared about issues or the common welfare instead of their politics as intramural volleyball.

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This clearly demonstrates why getting 3rd party people elected at city, state and county levels is the only way to really effect change. If you can get senators and congress people more the better but the need to get rid of the 2 party system is obvious.

there are always third parties...people just don't vote for them...

@seattlepanda The whole third party thing has to start at the county level -imo. I really miss Seattle. Little Kittitas county almost elected an Independent for county commissioner 10 years ago. It was SO close. The district for congress never went republican until Kim Shirer won. The way things are now neither party is anything close to what we, or at least I think of as being dem or rep.

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Democrats and their voters will justify it all. They will say something like, well they're experienced in this stuff. We have to trust Biden to do the right thing.

They will also say the same shit to justify it when Biden and the Dem leaders let Trump and his cronies off the hook for crimes commited. " We have to move forward, unify and heal the nation", etc. All bullshit. When you let that stuff slide, you truly kill the soul of the nation... So much for Biden saying he was going to save the soul of the nation.

@TomMcGiverin that again is the going theme. They all say it anymore while the division continues. It's a constant continuing failed cycle. What people miss is that that is the role the corporate media plays for the establishment. Each side while in power falsely speak unity and leadership for all the people. While the corporate media divides the actions into divisional terms for their followers. Each ignoring the fact that these 3 groups of society create the divisional nature and the strife they're engulfed in. Too few of the people seem to be able to comprehend this and acknowledge that independent journalism built on dissenting views who manage to break this down to a factual sense that they all are the problem feeding each other an illusion. While the establishment politicians and the corporate media are fully aware of what they are creating. It's good for business. Just look at how seemingly more money pours in to each election cycle as they go by. The democrats managed to put at least 20 cash cows out that sucked a record amount of money in for the DNC, again. [npr.org]

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I'll wait and see what it looks like in January.

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