It's the one's we don't see or know about who run the program. Then there's a senator here and a congressman there. That pull the strings for them. Although it's a movie, Shooter, with Mark Wahlberg, gives a good indication of the real world behind intelligence agencies. The first 2 Jason Bourne movies also.

John McCain, Charlie Wilson, Hillary Clinton, GHW Bush, Christopher Murphy, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld just to name a few with a ton of blood under them.

Yea, get a load of Hoover's history. He was our SS leader.

Yes, but why would he or any other country want to destroy our government? Does he view us as a threat in terms of a competitor, or a threat in terms of a hostile force? I know Putin is no choir boy, but if the U.S. would try to negotiate with other countries for the benefit of both then I would think there would be less hate or sinister plans for those countries to want to harm the U.S. Instead, we have the U.S. invading countries on false pretenses and lying for why we are there if they can't get their way. That's pretty psychotic. They manufacture propaganda programs and constantly lie to us. The lies are for the population because they know the average person wouldn't go along with their thought process, but other governments and decision makers know what the U.S. is doing. The U.S. is being imperial.

There are a lot of things we don't know though so maybe the U.S. tried to work out plans benefiting both countries, but if they did then it would be in their best interest to make that public so they could get public support for further actions. Let the public know the dire situation having to do with the economy and natural resources etc. They haven't done that though. Instead they lie and invade countries on lies. They do what benefits corporations and the ties they have with the U.S. That's also not a free market like they like to claim. Wouldn't you want less confrontation? Especially with nuclear powers? Unless it's absolutely necessary to the immediate health of the U.S., wouldn't you want the U.S. to take a different route than violence or force? Where did Russia immediately threaten the U.S? Some idiotic memes on Facebook and Instagram? If you say the immediate threat is in trying to hack election data etc. then everyone is a threat including our allies. Our own allies do it.

Nobody trusts anyone because they all know that their adversaries or even allies in other governments have the same psychotic mentality that they do. Positions of that type of power usually call for that type of person to fill the role, especially in the rigged system we have. How do we change the system that is rigged and how do we get those people out?

So tell me how Putin's wish to destroy America is coming to fruition? A government shutdown? There have been government shutdowns before. Was Putin responsible for those too?

Can you be more specific? There are so many levels of interaction in politics that are today referred to as interference due to unproven accusations. And when you consider that the US has been proven to cross every single one of those levels in which it itself claims some are illegal towards us, we can then be seen as a world aggressor.

My point is that Russia can be better viewed as a partner in world affairs over constantly being labeled as an enemy or adversary. Which the oligarchy, intelligence agencies, politicians, and media are staunchly attempting to suppress. The only entity creating a cold war mentality is the US. Russia is not making any moves to provoke hostile moves, but are being forced to protect its people and allies and abilities to make means. All the aggression is coming at them, not from them. And the public in the US has a perception management campaign being waged on them to believe Russia is the enemy they should fear, with no real reason.