Is a part missing from your reply @walklightly?

@FrayedBear, no.

The sight of the 40-ish overweight woman with drink affected complexion screaming at the still trim looking leader of the local Hari Krishnas in court when he was obtaining a restraining order against her may have caused much amusement but her words of "why won't you f*ck me now, you did often enough when I was 25 and beautiful of body & mind. I want your baby!" Also clarifies the issue.

@FrayedBear ROFL

Thanks for that update of information.

he paid for lots of .... well not lots but what he got ....he paid for in one way or another he paid elect bills or rent rather than love anyone

at that age there are not many options more women than men and the ones left are old fat and can't get it up

@whiskywoman Are you sure that many at that age want it up?

@whiskywoman
My father was Widowed at 77, within a year he was married again to a spritely 63 year old woman.
I maybe old and fat as it says in my profile, but my Dad can still run circles around me fitness wise.

hell yes I certainly don't want a guy that can't
that is why my motto is young hot and hung
@FrayedBear

@whiskywoman That is you and power to your desire I say. I hope you are being fulfilled. I asked however how many women over 35 are asexual or lesbian.

because sometimes what they had gets lazy and rote or is inadequate in the first place we take each other for granted and life gets busy and we forget that the person we love needs to know and women can be worse than the physical changes for men I hear it lots @FrayedBear

or were hurt and abused often

@whiskywoman i did not say all partners were good, some just Horrendous! Peace & Quiet, and control of the remote! Yes!

Or were left with trust issues that may well inhibit the capacity for future relationships.

mine either
@AnneWimsey

So did I. I was told it did not originate from your words.

@FrayedBear It was invented back in the 1990s by a bisexual woman named Alana who was also having difficulty finding love/relationships. It was meant to be along the lines of LGBTA - not about blaming or shaming, but a self-label to describe someone's situation. She made a website that was supposed to be a forum for men and women to share their experiences and it was hijacked by guys who decided that they didn't need to do introspection because it was womens' fault they couldn't get laid

Incels are by definition without a partner, however not all involuntarily celibate people identify as or should be labeled incels.
There used to be a phrase "Never found Mr.com/Miss right" these people still exist and are not hateful, nasty or horrible, they just are choosy, or have something about them such as social anxiety, that limits their options.

The current trend of labeling anyone without a regular partner, or string of partners as some sort of social deviant, a monstrous person who must have some sort of flawed character is very dangerous, both to society and to those people made to feel inadequate or horrible, or evil simply because they are not shagging everything that moves.

they choose being that way is a choice and it keeps ppl away

@LenHazell53 Nobody is lumping all single people in with Incel. "Incel" refers to a specific group of people who are saying and doing monstrous things.

If you're not spreading hateful rhetoric on the internet about how women owe men sex or running people over with your car because you can't get laid (both things that have actually happened and are associated with the Incel group), nobody is assuming you're part of Incel

@whiskywoman People who choose to be celibate or choose to be single are not the same thing as Incel. Incel is a specific name for a group of people that's, essentially, a terrorist group. Their main argument is that women are inferior to men and that women owe men sex because men are better. Besides spreading hateful, sexist things on the internet, they are also responsible for actual violence against other people, as in a recent incident where a member of the group intentionally drove a van into people on a sidewalk, killing them

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@ghost_warlock
I'm afraid (and I use the term literally) you are wrong,
"Nobody is lumping all single people in with Incel."
You do not speak for everyone, and people can, do, and will misapply labels once created.
Don't believe me?
When the term "potential rapist" was introduced it was for a specific group of unhinged and dangerous people, it was soon applied by a certain group of other people to anyone with a penis and while being technically true, it cannot actually be denied on other than on a psychological level.
"Misogynist" was a term only applied to a specific mental condition, now any man who disagrees with any woman on anything, is according to some, behaving like a misogynist and therefore is one.
Feminist was a follower of an ideology of social equality for ALL people. Now it it is a word thrown about by angry people to describe anyone to be discredited as an unpleasantly self righteous, uneducated neonazi extremist who happens to be female.

Look at the word Incel itself, Involuntarily celibate, in it's full form is fine, it says what it means, and nothing more.
However:

In, is immediately suggestive of a negative especially when followed by the C/S sound (insensitive, incapable, insincere)

Cel connotes a prison cell, a small cell in the biological sense.

The portmanteau contraction Incel, therefore in no way connotes involuntary celibacy as is the case with say Frienemy, or Hangry. it is just a nasty word suggesting someone who if not already locked up should be in (a) cell, someone small and insincere some one insular (inCelular?).

At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, this word was no accident, it is designed to be a man haters dream.

My point is creating labels that can and will be seized on and used as weapons against larger groups of people perhaps never originally intended to be included in the definition is a bad idea, and popularizing them unopposed is an even worse one.

Yes!