The primary operating principle of the US constitution and government was to prevent tyrannical actions by a simple majority. The Bill of Rights were established explicitly to protect the minority from arbitrary rules that might be imposed in a pure democracy.
The confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh by the US Senate by the slimmest of margins over the strong objections of half of the American people has just demonstrated the last vestiges of US government has abandoned that fundamental founding principle. All three branches of the US government are completely illegitimate, they have lost their right to govern. The US government will collapse in a style reminiscent of the fall of the former Soviet Union in the not too distant future. As President Lincoln said, "A house divided cannot stand."
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dare2dream
Level 7
Oct 8, 2018
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Well put. That is one way things could unfold, however, I have a feeling that this government will turn into a theocratic authoritarian state.
Captain747ex
Level 7
Oct 7, 2018
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@TheAstroChuck I don't understand. What do you mean by a loss of inexpensive natural resources?
@TheAstroChuck So what would happen if we moved away from oil? Also, if economies collapse because of excessive debt, what becomes of all that debt?
@TheAstroChuck Ah, I see. I don't expect it to get better anytime soon.
@Captain747ex check out what happened in Germany after WW1
@btroje Yes, super inflation. The money was so worthless the people were using it as wallpaper.
@Captain747ex I was just watching a documentary of this time. I couldnt understand why they even bothered to print it
@btroje True. It usually makes the situation worse when you just print and print and print more money.
@btroje I have started watching a series on that very subject...how Hitler and his henchmen gained power. It was uncomfortable to watch due to the similarities to our current situation.
@patchoullijulie I'm surprised that most people didn't see the similarities early on in the campaign.
@Captain747ex Right and they are still not seeing the similarities...
@patchoullijulie They probably never will until its too late or at all.
All democracies have eventually failed. Greek, Roman, and more recently, Turkish. We (the U.S.A.), will also morph into something else...it is just that some people cannot see it as happening now, but then neither can a frog sitting a tepid pot of water as the temperature rises.
dahermit
Level 7
Oct 7, 2018
3
That is a myth, frogs will leap from water that is too hot, regardless of being dropped in or slowly heated. Otherwise, you are spot on.
Very true, and when people did notice, it was way too late.
@TheAstroChuck Another thing that seems to coincide with the demise of a civilization (not necessarily a democracy) is it stops expanding its boarders. Note the former Soviet Union, Roman Empire, and the U.S.A. We have stopped expandings since adding Alaska and Hawaii as states and it is very unlikely that we will add any more (Puerto Rico will not likely become a state, they are to evenly divided (no clear majority) on the issue and we don't really want them.). To sum, we have stopped expanding and the next step will be states (Alaska has such a movement), who will start movements to leave and become independent. Nothing remains in stasus...everything is in flux...even the U.S.A.
If 45 and the republicans do not get what they want in November, 45 WILL suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law.
KKGator
Level 9
Oct 7, 2018
1
You are saying the exact same thing that repubs said about Obama during his administration.
Perhaps.
@TheAstroChuck Yeah, the people who are saying the economy is "good" are being completely disingenuous. It's only good for corporations and the very rich. Shit is fixin' to get really REAL. It's not going to be pretty.
republicans also used the worst case scenario so fear rules instead of logic!
fascism always use fear then intimidation to gain power!
“The famous fear spread out by the Fascists that Obama was going to take all your gun away”!
Fear mongering 101 for the republican fascists!
When you see Brett hugging Karl Rove you know that all dirty tricks and fraud is being committed by these Fascists again us!
Unless and until the majority of citizens vote, this country will be, and continue to be, what the minority wants it to be.
jlynn37
Level 8
Oct 7, 2018
2
The only votes that matter are from the electoral colleges. Citizen votes haven't mattered since before the creation of the CIA.
And then there's the insane imbalance in the Senate where a voter in Wyoming counts as much as 67 voters in California. And then there's the criminal gerrymandering!
The Koch brothers want to have a constitutional convention. They already have 30 states aboard.
JanGarber
Level 7
Oct 7, 2018
3
I would agree that we do need one, but not the way they would handle it. Changes need to be made that will benefit the many instead of the few.
Absolutely!
This republican fascist bloodless coup d’tat which took just over fifty years to completely has been arranged to gut our “Bill of Rights”, our Constitution, our safe guards, our environment our laws, and regulations, no matter how flawed does not give this criminal fascist republican minority the right to dismantle, distort, and destroy our country!
of-the-mountain
Level 9
Oct 7, 2018
5
Its so mind numbing. I really didnt think my generation would have to fight its way back out of the early 40s. I have a stress headache as we speak just considering how far this infantile oligarch has set the human race back. I really might have to investigate moving to a different country as soon as financially possible. Im humiliated to share a continent with so many opportunistic victim blaming harassers. People like to talk shit about millenials but Im not sure the baby boomer generation in the US can ever be forgiven for this mess.
Wurlitzer
Level 8
Oct 7, 2018
3
Exactly!
If I didn't have my critters (some have called it a zoo) I would have already left. The decision would just be where would I go....
I hear New Zealand is nice...
I agree I'm seriously considering leaving the United States behind.
@Lucifer_M yes, New Zealand or Australia would be my 1st choices but I was kinda thinking if I went to Europe I could explore quite a few countries before heading to my perfect choice (forever home).
Indeed, the concept of "checks and balances" has been completely ignored which is why I place Mitch McConnell in the circle of culpability leading to the current state. A very interesting read comparing the current climate to that prior to WWII - isolationism, a weakening of democracy, etc prevailed was posted in the New York Review of books recently.
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RPardoe
Level 7
Oct 7, 2018
5
McConnell was on Face The Nation this morning. What an embarrassment!
These Putin and Russian oligarchs you own these criminal fascists republicans!
The republicans are nothing but delusional lapdogs of Putin, his oligarchs, the transnational corporations!
The republicans fascists whole goal is to dismantle and destroy all our protections under “the Bill of Rights”, our Constitution, and our laws to suit their overlords!
It is time to eradicate this disease known as republicans and their fascist overlords!
If what you predict should come pass, what then?
I think this country has been through more difficult periods than the present one. But climate change is going to provide added stress every thing and every one in the not-too-distant future. We will be tested.
Flyingsaucesir
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Oct 7, 2018
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