Pretty please?

@powder Don't really care if you think it's arrogant or not. Didn't care for the implication that the topic of the discussion of religious detriment being "superficial ".

@Allamanda kkgater joined Dec 17 2017. Powder joined April 7 2018. Kinda funny he's trying to lecture her about the sites history or how topics cycle back around here.

@Mb_Man Here, for example, is a comment I made yesterday. I have not received a response:

My way out of religion was intellectual. Matthew 7:15-20 warns us against false prophets and tells us that by their fruits you will know them. Similarly, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 tells us that if a prophet makes a prediction in the name of the Lord, and the prediction proves to be false, he is a false prophet, and should be ignored.

I studied the prophets, and especially the main ones: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel & Daniel. In each of them, I found predictions made in the name of of the Lord that never came true, and the time for fulfillment is past. My conclusion is that the biblical prophets had no divine gift for predicting the future.

If you would like further detail, I would be happy to send you my reports. Just ask for them and tell me where to email them.

Here are the titles some of my reports:
Fearless Bible Study
Judging the Prophets
Isaiah Was a False Prophet
Jeremiah Was a False Prophet
Ezekiel Was a False Prophet
Daniel Is False Prophecy
Jesus Falls with the Prophets
Phony Fulfillments
Contradictions in the Bible
The Satire According to Matthew
Christianity Debunked
Morality
Why I Cannot Be Christian

@Mb_Man If you are willing to look at the details, I can prove that Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel were false prophets.

@Allamanda In the Mormon religion, people are taught that every word of scripture is to be taken as literally true. Therefore, I had to discover on my own that there were many falsehoods in the scriptures. I understand that some people don't need to see the evidence, but I was one who required it because of my upbringing.

@Allamanda We all have our own unique paths to finding the truth. I had to overcome a great deal of brainwashing.

@BestWithoutGods Well, there's your problem: VERY few on here want to see direct references to the bible. It has been so thoroughly discredited by most of us any such citations cause an allergic reaction. Deuteronony? No thank you! Ezekiel? Isn't that sprouted bread?

@BestWithoutGods I commend you for finding your way out of belief in the inerrancy of scripture. I understand why you aren't getting many takers here in what you've worked out. Folks here have generally left scriptural nonsense behind them and don't see a point to poking at it any more.

That said, any of us who have open-minded literalist Christians in our circles who might be willing to listen to your exploration of all the fallacies of scripture might indeed find your material useful. The problem, of course, is that open-minded literalist Christians are almost an oxymoron, they generally don't self-identify (out of fear of fellow literalists) and are about as rare as a pink flying unicorn.

@vertrauen Well, I'm here to help anyone who needs to see proof that the Bible is not reality. Though they be rare, they have a real need for evidence. And I have plenty of well-reasoned and researched evidence.

How would you describe a religious zealot and do you know of any examples of someone more extreme?

Will you expand on your notion of public education?

@seekingtruth All learn to read, write, and do math,. What else depends on curriculum. It must be SECULAR and HUMANIST!
Stop home schooling, used to perpetuate ignorance, and private education, the way the rich segregate themselves and create a ruling class.

@Storm1752 I think the curriculm is organized to prepare students for college for which there is much to say about price and viability depending on degree path. Also, I think the book Schools on Trial mentions some of the behavior I will steer my children clear of that may not have been present during your time.

@seekingtruth Schooling SHOULD be the means to teach children to be absolutely FREE to think for themselves no matter what.
Any form of religious inclusion in the education of children is 100% detrimental to their gaining the ability to think FREELY for themselves.
Religions literally DEMAND that people ACCEPT completely and without question WHAT they tell them, that is the way religions have thrived and survived for centuries.

@Triphid Religion should be outlawed. Wait, no that won't work. There's a new generation coming up almost completely secular. Religion is dying a slow, agonizing death. The power elite hate that and are fighting back with everything they have.
The oligarchy/plutocracy now in place will subject the lower classes to the status of second-class citizens. The ruling class will eventually solidify and make permanent their power, using religion as their justification. In many places it's already happened.

@Storm1752 I tend to think that Humanity, as a whole, is slowly waking up to the adverse effects that religions have had upon it for centuries and the death knells of religions are beginning to toll, somewhat softly at present but are getting louder bit by bit.
Religions built their Empires BUT all Empires fall over time and Religious Empires are no different.

@Triphid Maybe they'll just come up with a new religion, like the Romans almost certainly did by destroying (they thought) Judaiism--and the mythological gods--with Christianity, an unblemished (at the time) and more Rome-friendly alternative.
No clue what it would look like, maybe a comeback of the Golden Calf, with green dollar signs on each flank.

@Storm1752 Actually and historically speaking, the Ancient Romans NEVER sought to eradicate the Messianic Cult, later to become Christianity after the Council of Nicaea, 325 C.E.
For the most part, the so-called 'persecutions' of the early Xstians was a propaganda device devised and utilized by the early Xstian Leaders to garner public sympathy.
The Romans actually accepted the different beliefs of the peoples they conquered and often ever incorporated them into their beliefs as well.
In Rome itself there were over a dozen known and well attended Synagogues that operated for centuries during the Roman Empire.

@genessa

Love your sense of humor.

What's a snert? Sounds funny. I'm all ears.

@LiterateHiker omg i heard the term so long ago i forget what the initials stand for! but it's basically a snot-nosed snide wiseguy (or -gal) with trolly tendencies, someone who enjoys disruption for its own sake, someone who thinks being mean and being funny are the same thing... you know, people like that are snerts.

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I want to consider the detriment of religion of others. Shallow may be a better term than superficial. Indeed the term was questionable when it came to mind. I didn't intend to make anyone feel slow. My intention is to hear of more detailed and illustrative accounts of religions obvious treading.

@seekingtruth okay. Doesn't really answer my questions but whatever works. You might try starting a conversation with your own experiences and/or observations. Good luck

@ronnie40356 I'm curious to know the relative extent of religious treading for open atheists specifically. I don't know how else to answer your question other than sheer curiosity. I tend to think religion preys on the weak whether one is a believer or not. That I think explains my fascination.

Will you try this one? Historically do you know of any examples of religions' oppression?

@seekingtruth Few I could recite with accuracy. Seems any time fewer numbers of one religion are surrounded by more from another, there’s ‘oppression.’

Are there any other atheist sites one would recommend?