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The recent posts on reproductive rights and abortion hit close to home for me so I have some pretty strong feelings about it.

Last year when it looked like the ACA might be repealed I decided to share my story on facebook. I thought I would share that here too. Maybe it will provide some with a perspective they haven't considered before...

There is a lot of talk right now about a female's reproductive rights and more specifically, her right to have a safe, legal abortion. It seems like everyone has an opinion, but few of us have actually had an abortion. Certainly no male has and only a small percentage of women have and that's a good thing. I can't claim to be one of those that have needed an abortion either, but I came very close to having one...and I remember being in that place; the fear, the uncertainty, the guilt, the sadness. In that respect I think I can relate to what many women across the world experience.

My husband and I spent over three years and thousands of dollars on fertility treatments. A week after undergoing our very last fertility procedure I found out I was pregnant by taking an at home pregnancy test. At my two week follow up appointment we discovered I was carrying twins. At twelve weeks we found out that I was in danger of miscarrying and after a surgery, put on strict bedrest. At 16 weeks I was hospitalized with a dangerous medical condition that put both my life and the babies lives in jeopardy. At that time we were told that if at any point my health became in immediate danger prior to 23 weeks gestation (which at the time was the earliest viability for an infant) the pregnancy would have to be terminated; which is to say that the fetuses would have to be aborted...but we don't like to use that term because women who have an abortion are what...Careless? Irresponsible? Coldhearted monsters? Murderers even?...Except that a lot of us aren't. We are the ones that have serious medical complications. We are the 1 in 5 women who will be raped in our lifetime. We are the ones who for many, many reasons have to make the very hard, very sad, very personal decision to terminate our pregnancies.

We were lucky to have our babies make it past the 23 week gestation mark and avoid an abortion, but not by much. And it has been a long, hard road, but today they are happy, healthy, sort of normal (what exactly is normal and are any of them really, actually normal?? ) thirteen (now fourteen) year olds.

There are a couple reasons I chose to tell this story at this time. One is the political situation that is unfolding in front of our eyes in a very real and terrifying way. The other reasons are more personal.

After delivering my children I was warned that there is a very real possibility that should I become pregnant again, I may not survive that pregnancy. I made the responsible decision to choose an IUD as a contraception method, which is 99% effective for 5+ years. I am fortunate that my insurance covers this option because I'm unable to take birth control pills or other hormonal contraceptive options, and condoms only have an 82% efficacy rate and pose too high of a risk of pregnancy for someone like me. Without ACA insurance covering contraceptives, I would not be able to afford an IUD and would potentially be in a very dangerous and risky situation. I suppose abstinence is an option but I'm not sure preaching it is any more effective to married thirty year olds than it is for teenagers, which is to say that it isn't realistic and doesn't really work. If you disagree consider that our public school systems teach abstinence and look at our teen pregnancy statistics.

The other reason for writing this story was prompted by some recent diagnostic tests. During those tests we discovered that my IUD was missing. Poof, vanished, closed up shop, skipped town...which is rare to have happen, but I can testify that it can and indeed does happen. To break this down, it means that sometime between June of 2015 and January of 2017, I somehow expelled my IUD without knowing. I have been without contraception for up to eighteen months. Eighteen months!!! What if I had gotten pregnant during that time??? Well...if I had gotten pregnant I would have had to choose between attempting to carry a baby that would very likely be born very premature, if it survived at all, while risking my life, and potentially leaving two twelve year old children without a mother...or I would have had to choose that very hard, very sad, very personal choice to have an abortion which would make me what?...Careless? Irresponsible? A coldhearted monster? A murderer even? Nah, because I have a legitimate reason, right? I had a legitimate reason, right? It's easier to justify when you know my history....but it's the same choice thousands of women have had to make and it's that choice many judge them on without knowing their history and reasons. And frankly, it isn't any our business unless they choose to share those details as I have. Furthermore, who are any of us to judge?

I never thought I would have or need an abortion. I'm quite certain the vast majority of women who find themselves pregnant and have terminated their pregnancies, either by choice or necessity, never thought they would be in that position either. No woman ever wants to experience that kind of physical and emotional pain, but I'm grateful we live in a country where women have access to safe medical care for those services...and while I will not likely be one of the women who will have the need for an abortion, l will never take that right away from the women that do...at least not until I have lived their life and walked a thousand miles in their shoes.

I will warn you in advance, this is a deeply personal post and I will not tolerate any negative or inappropriate comments on this post.

AdorkableMe 7 May 21
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Moral (or ethical) absolutism teaches that there are behaviors, actions, conducts, etc. that are absolutely wrong, that is, those conducts are wrong always and in every context or situation. “Under no circumstance”, says a moral absolutist, “X” could be right or permissible”. The Roman Catholic Church, for example, and many Fundamentalists, teach and defend this philosophical theory. Relativism, on the other hand, teaches that conducts are not good or bad in themselves, but that a given action’s morality depends on the circumstances, the situation, the “context”. [For a good example, cf. “Situation Ethics; The New Morality”, by Joseph Fletcher. It is an old book, but I am an old man.] A person who says that abortion is ALWAYS wrong is an absolutist.
Interestingly, a person who says that abortion is ALWAYS right is an absolutist, too!!
Abortion, per se, is neither right nor wrong. In some circumstances it can be wrong, in others it will be the right and moral thing to do.
But it worries me to find in this Forum many moral absolutists, who cannot, and will not see that in Ethics, religion and morality there are no absolutes. When an ignorant priest preaches that “abortion is always a sin”, I protest against his absolutism; But I also protest against those “freethinkers absolutists” (an oxymoron) who in an equally dogmatic fashion insist that “abortion is ALWAYS right”. Words like “any reason”, “any interference”, etc, shows adherence to absolutism. If I believed in absolutes, I would join another Forum, like vatican.org, fundamentalists.com, or alahuakbar.org.!!

I first read that as vacation.org. A website dedicated to absolute holidays. No work, no childcare, just taking it easy - absolutely. Nice.

I'm not an absolutist. I can't say that abortion is the right decision for everyone that makes it because there will always be women that regret their decision to pursue an abortion. I can't even say that it is absolutely should be a person's own choice because there have been times when a person is unable to make decisions for themselves and someone must make them for them...but it is a medical procedure and should be up to those involved and not the general public..

@AdorkableMe I totally agree. No Institution, religious or political, should be allowed to intervene. Thanks for a challenging and profound thread. {BTW: I was not referring to you when I said there are some misplaced "absolutists" here. In fact, I think they don't even realize they are absolutists!} [Note: English is not my first language. So, forgive me if sometimes I write things I didn't mean to say.]

Nope. Abortion isnt "always right" but it IS always the choice of the person who the pregnant body belongs too. It does not matter in the least what You or anyone else thinks about that individuals choice. It is their body and only the individual has a right to make that decision.

@smoyle Ha, ha, ha. Good one!

Do you believe someone, or a panel of people, should have the power to say Yes or No to an abortion? Who decides?

@AnneWimsey (1) Of course, no. (2) The pregnant woman herself.
But, again, as it is the case with almost all decisions, this one would NOT ALWAYS be right, and NOT ALWAYS be wrong. That was/is my original point.

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I got unintentionally pregnant at 23. I intended to give the baby up for adoption, since my best friend's older sister was looking for a baby.

At 4 months gestation, I started bleeding, so I went to the nearest hospital. They put in an IV, and that's it. I waited, and cried, and waited more. Finally, a compassionate nurse told me that since it was a Catholic hospital, they wouldn't treat me until the fetus showed no sign of life... and the bleeding was just getting worse. She gave me the address for Planned Parenthood, and I'm quite sure she must have called to tell them I was on my way.

I snuck out of the hospital, wrapped up as much as possible because I was bleeding through everything, caught a taxi and went to Planned Parenthood. Once there, I had to get through the protesters, while wrapped in blood-stained sheets, while they called me unspeakable things and screamed at me not to kill my (dying or dead) baby.

The front desk took my ID, said they'd talk about everything else later, and got me in to the doctor immediately. I barely remember the actual procedure, but afterwards, they set up a reasonable payment program, set up an appointment for a further checkup, and one of the nurses claimed she lived near the university and dropped me off close by the dorm. Oh, and they WASHED MY CLOTHES. Damp is immensely better than bloody.

I paid them off slowly. The bill from the hospital was simply ignored, other than my phone call telling them to fuck off for nearly letting me die.

I had 2 more miscarriages, earlier in pregnancy, when I tried with my (now ex) husband. Neither required medical treatment, since they were first trimester. I just have too much autoimmunity, and my body rejects the fetus.

I don't tolerate hormonal birth control, I can't get IUDs because they are contraindicated for people with Primary Immunodeficiency Disorders. Doctors have ignored and insurance rejected my repeated attempts to get medically sterilized. So I use barrier methods and spermicide, and hope... Fortunately, at 44, I'm in perimenopause and highly unlikely to get pregnant again. I've already told my boyfriend that if I do, he'll be playing chauffeur for a day at Planned Parenthood, and he has agreed, and is horrified by the way I've been treated by paternalistic US medical care.

I'm so sorry that happened. That's horrendous. Is it really so unreasonable to expect a world where womens safety and sanity are actually valued? Why is this still going on?

I've warned my daughter to avoid Catholic hospitals if she is able to make the decision at the time.
They will perform a pregnancy test before rendering treatment and if it comes out positive treatment will focus on the fetus. The woman is merely the vessel at hat point.

Ugh. What an awful experience. I'm so sorry Tara. Thank you for sharing your story as well. They aren't pretty, happy stories but they are important!!

I have mad love for Planned Parenthood. As a polyamorous person in a small conservative town, it is the only non-judgmental health care providers that I have access to who don't make me feel uncomfortable or shameful when request routine sti screening.

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Many years ago I helped pay for a friend's abortion simple fact was she wasn't ready to be a mom. Ran across her a few years later happy mom of two. This is a reason to not force momhood on a woman.

Thank you for helping. I know several of these people...

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Thank you for sharing your experience.

I think it's pretty telling that the punitive laws people come up with against abortion only apply to women and never to the men who got them pregnant, sometimes against the woman's will, and that these people shoot down legislation that would decrease abortions (like better access to health care and/or birth control), and that they have little to no regard for quality of life after birth.

Most of my family would consider me a murderer if I got an abortion, even though it's likely I'd die if I didn't. But they see my (and any woman's) role in life as primarily being a wife and mother, everything else is just to keep busy until you've achieved those two things. Abortion is an abdication of those things, and I think that'd almost be more upsetting to them than the fact that I ended the life of a fetus. I'd have become unwomanly in their eyes.

I don't appreciate people valuing their belief system over my own life.

You're welcome. Religion has created a society that is oppressive for women. It's sad that so many people buy into it.

Worse than you describe. ..MANY STATES HAVE RAPIST VISITATION RIGHTS. ...placing women in 3rd place behind zygotes and violent criminals for "bodily" autonomy

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Choosing to have an abortion would be a hard choice for a woman to make. No woman should be judged for that choice and we should respect those women.

and if you can't respect those women, at least respect that it is their right to choose and that it's the right choice for them...

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Thank you so much for sharing this about your self. It's a brave thing in this day and age of anger and shooting off of mouths.

Sometimes I wonder how it is we got to this place on that larger social scale that other people's lives and health needs are up to the scrutiny of society at large. What's worse is so many make those snap judgment without really paying much attention to details and circumstances. It's a sad thing but good to open up dialog between those who make such snap assumptions and those who have to make those difficult and devastating decisions.

Again, thank you.

AmyLF Level 7 May 21, 2018

Thank you and you are welcome. It is for that reason that I shared. We do need to open dialogues, talk to each other, show compassion and empathy...

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Personally, for myself I am against abortion but I strongly believe in a woman’s right to choose. I’m more upset and distressed at the anti-abortion bully’s than I am at women who choose to have them. The world would be a much better place if people took care of their own business and left others alone to do the same.

Great post and points, BTW.

Thank you, anti abortion protesters make me rage. I cannot think of a lower thing to do to a person and how awful it must be to have to face them, their horrible rhetoric on such a horrible day.

@AdorkableMe the criminal US Sup Ct rules these tampon terrorists are free to scream any lie at Healthcare workers and patients @ clinics just like Fred Phelps is free to scream "gawd hates fags" @ dead soldiers funerals but we Atheists ARE NOT FREE TO PROTEST 2 living popes and rapist priests @ cathedrals or hospitals billionaire untaxed nuns own

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Thank you for sharing that. Your thinking all makes perfect sense to me.
The whole debate would be easier if the pro-lifers actually showed respect for all forms of life - the young embryos of animals that are virtually identical to the human embryo, the gestating child (by wanting top-line pre-natal care for the mother), the infant (by protective social security measures), the matured child (by being anti-death penalty, pro-gun control etc.). The majority of them take the very opposite views and that leads me to conclude that their 'respect' for life is nothing more than a sham and that their real motive is to punish the woman.
The very presence and vocality of these hypocrites has poisoned the debate and makes it hard to take a dispassionate view of the rights or otherwise of the unborn.
[Edit] hanging parenthesis!

I cannot tell you how much I wanted to click the thumbs up several times based solely on your first few lines. I've given up the whole "pro-life" label and choose to call them "anti-abortionists" instead.

To me it goes into a conversation about increasing punishment and dropping the statute of limitations on rape crimes, reading studies and stories of women with real and very serious, life threatening issues and have to make a choice between her own life or death, life that is so very cruel to orphans and adopted kids in health and education as well as in general social circles.

Why is it they can take on a pro life stance when they usually are supporting things that are so very not pro life outside of the abortion topic? That never quite made sense to me.

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I've always felt that a room full of white men has no business making medical decisions for women.

A group of white men should likely not be allowed to make decisions for most people. ?

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When I met my late ex wife she was 4 weeks pregnant. i offered to support the child too but she opted for a abortion, ( back street those days ). I supported her in that decision too. we were married 22 years and had 2 kids of our own. and never once regreted her decision.

I wish you hadn't had to go through that, but happy to hear that it truly was the best decision for you.

@AdorkableMe
Thank you, our choices are always our own, and must live with them, good or bad.

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Wow! As others have said, thank you for sharing this very personal part of yourself here. Clearly, you made great efforts and took great risk to exercise your right TO have children and I'm glad it worked out and you have happy (mostly normal), healthy teenagers now. I have an adult "child" and a teenager.

My perception of the abortion "issue" is that it is over a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body. She should be able to make that choice REGARDLESS of her reason. Maybe, like you, she has potentially life-threatening risk associated with the pregnancy, or maybe she simply feels she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe she just flat doesn't want a child. Maybe it's financial. Whatever the reason, it is HER body, HER choice. For the sake of this discussion, let's assume we are talking about a nonviable fetus. I don't want to have that debate. My point is simply that it's the woman's right to choose, period. Thanks again for sharing.

Thank you and you are welcome. I thought we had made it through the fire when they were little but this teenage thing might just do me in. Lol

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It always amazes me to see how insidious patriarchy is in our society, how religious dogma interjects itself into everyone's life, even the non-religious. Women should never allow anyone to dictate what they can or cannot do with their own body, any more than a man would but because of patriarchal religious morality that is exactly what happens.
An unwanted pregnancy can and should be terminated by a woman for whatever reason she deems acceptable, just as any other elective medical procedure should be her choice and hers alone. Having to factor in medical costs for contraception is uncivilized but because of religious pressures that is exactly the world we live in, when we give up freedom over our own bodies then we are giving up one of our most basic freedoms. We need as a society to stop stigmatizing abortion because all we are doing is giving into religious control over our lives. Choosing to have a child or not is a personal choice that has far reaching consequences and is no business of religion or the state.

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I know a few women who have been faced with the biologoical fact that nature is not perfect and sometimes it can be downright cruel.
Thank you for telling your story and I am glad you have your children! I am a little surprised the doctor didn't advise a tubal ligation.

Thank you. If it had been an option, it was one I would have taken. I was a complicated case. I had complications during the delivery. I have a bleeding disorder and was hemorrhaging, platelets were spraying from the blood bag because they were trying to push them in faster. It was kind of a train wreck. Lol. And any surgery is risky for me so unless it is an emergency or at least very serious, it's not an option for me.

@AdorkableMe that sounds terrifying!

@Donna_I it was scary, but also comical in my luck. I recall looking at my husband, blood flying, platelets flying, nurses jumping on my abdomen and just shaking my head like seriously??? Lol. Honestly, I think it is sometimes harder to look back on that time than it was to go through it. You don't really have a choice, you just do what needs to be done at the time .

@AdorkableMe it is amazing how perspective changes with time. Lol!

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This couldn't have been easy to write, let alone share. I appreciate your willingness to do so, if it even influences one person...As for teenagers, they are great when you have no internet available, because they do know just about everything. Good luck to you and your family.

Lol. Thank you. And yeas, they know EVERYTHING!!!! ?

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It makes me angry when people are denied sterilisation procedures because religious zealots have somehow influenced government policy.

Sterilisation, the snip, or whatever you want to call it seems the most effective method for preventing unwanted pregnancies for those who've decided against having children.

Our culture ignores those who've decided not to have children and overrides them.

[telegraph.co.uk]

Been there. Nicest thing my hubby did for me after our twins. Doctor congratulated him as being only the second bloke he had seen in his career to volunteer for the op.

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I thank you for sharing such a deeply private and personal story and I whole heartedly wish it wasn't necessary.

How wonderfully relieved you must have felt when your twins were delivered safely. Now the teen years, I hope they are easy for you. Take care. 🙂

Betty Level 8 May 21, 2018

Thank you! Yes, we were relieved they were delivered safely, but that was kind of just the beginning of our adventures. This teenage parenting thing is no joke. I think every day I have a new wrinkle. Lol

@AdorkableMe

The teen years will be a test of patience and you may sometimes wonder why you ever chose to be a parent. Then there will be moments of pure joy and those will be what you hold on to until they find their footing as adults. Hang in there, it will pass. Take care. 🙂

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Thank you for sharing such an informative post, and congratulations on writing something so deeply personal.

Jnei Level 8 May 21, 2018

Thank you!

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I am astounded by this post and how amazing you are for writing it. ??? I can't really think of anything to add so I'll just say thank you.

Thank you ?

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Thank you for posting..beautifully expressed..

thank you for hanging in there for a loooong post! Lol

@AdorkableMe it only looks long..lol

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Thank you for sharing your story. And no...no teenager is normal...so you're good!

Hahaha. Whew. I always wonder. Lol. ?

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Sorry about all that worry you must have had. I totally agree with you about abortion. No women take it lightly and most have take some form of contraception. How someone who is not in that situation can say anything at all about it is beyond me. It is nobody else business.

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You have explained the good, the bad and the ugly about abortion, and expressed your love of life, people, and family, too. It is a great post. I'm sorry for your troubles and happy things turned out OK.

PS Forgot to say, I agree that abortion should be available to every woman without difficulty.

Thank you, we all have troubles in out lives. I am glad to have those ones behind me!! ?

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Thanks for sharing your story.Surely a Woman must have "Dominion" over their own body. It must be an bascic "Human" right?

Coldo Level 8 May 21, 2018

One would think! ?

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Yes - thanks so much for sharing this. It does speak, not only for you, but gives a voice to the many other women you mention who also have had to make that deeply personal and difficult decision and don't feel comfortable or able to provide explanation of the circumstances.

Thank you and you are welcome. Lending my voice and experience to the topic is the only way I know that I might educate, bring awareness and perspective to this topic. It's important to me to do that for others that may find themselves or others in similar situations...

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Why can't people accept that it's a horrible, horrible thing but sometimes necessary, for numerous reasons. Above all, it's nobodies god damn business other than the parents.

agree, but I would say no ones business but the parents and their physician. ☺

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Thank you for sharing your story. Medical complications is a frequent reason for abortions which extremists don't want to think about. I am totally in favour of free choice, but I don't think the choice is ever easy.

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