They are making some unfounded claims based on a study that seems reasonable to me. The study says nothing about any Holy Soirit.

@WilliamFleming - I assume you found and read the study. What kind of control group did they have? That is missing in the article.

@RussRAB I didn’t study that. Here’s this though:

“The research appears in the November issue of the journal Psychiatry Research: Neuroimaging.”

@WilliamFleming - I didn't find a link yet to the Psychiatry journal but did find your sciencemag link in your comment below. It does add some detail missing in this article, but Dr. Newberg is quoted in both articles referencing God as a proven entity. Such statements should be seen as indications of tainted research because brain scans show no evidence of anything to do with God, and more often from my reading, explains why the subjects feel as they do, not anything to do with God. This interpretation is an additional leap not warranted by the research.

@RussRAB I didn’t see that but I am surprised such a study would make it into that journal above with the fancy name. Perhaps it is a hoax. I’m going to google.

@WilliamFleming - OK, here in the link I found. The article doesn't say much and doesn't say anything about God other than that speaking in tongues is a part of some believer's religious experience.
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@RussRAB
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Here’s where you can download the original study I think. I’ve lost all interest—was just trying to see if it really is in that journal. Multiple sources say yes.

@RussRAB Good, that sounds more like a real scientific study.

@WilliamFleming - I hope I'm not coming across as too big of a jerk. I do have a lot more time to look up some things today than usual.

I have come across religious people who are axious to be able to quote from resear h that appears to support what they believe. While the research may produce some valid and useful results, claiming it somehow proves God or proves a connection to God is a flawed conclusion. Until God can be proven as a valid and distinct identifiable entity, no conclusion using God as an assumed proven entity cannot be acceptable.

@RussRAB I know what you mean, it’s not just religious people though. It’s not uncommon for someone to seize on a study or article and twist it around to suit their purposes. Nice that we have the tools to check things out.

@WilliamFleming - I agree.

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Any prize from the second shelf.

British crudity is so cute.

@Sticks48 Glad you think so!

Among Mormons (early Mormons in particular) the spiritual gift of speaking in tongues was separate ftom the gift of interpreting those who speak in tongues. One account I once read involved a woman who stood up and began speaking in tongues (I have to wonder if she was having a stroke). While this first woman was enunciating, another woman stood up and began "interpreting" into english what the first woman was (supposedly) saying.

Exactly.

@RussRAB in the bible the gift of tongues was given to the first apostles so that they could go out and teach what Jesus taught them, it enabled them to speak to people of all cultures without learning the languages- no translating required.
So perhaps this generic babbling started in the Mormon church? I experienced in Country Victoria in Australia.

@girlwithsmiles - I've never experienced anyone speaking in tongues first hand. There was a young teenager who came to a televangelist's micrhone on TV while I was scanning channels one day. He spoke plenty of "thou's", "thee's", and the like interspersed with unrecognizable syllables. Everyone on the TV was impressed; I kept scanning channels. I guess I just didn't have the right spirit of God.

Nothing much was terribly original in Mormonism unless you want to count Joseph Smith's wild imagings. Even the temple endowment ceremony was so much like the masonic ritual (Smith was a Mason who was initiated into the upper ranks because he could swell the Illinois membership of Masons significantly, like doubling it at least).

No, in fact no one has seen it as an area worthy of research.

@glennlab That's what I figured, see Mofo1953

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Ayp!

@MichaelSpinler ooooooh, good one!

As a twin I do know twins come up with their own 'language'. Mother broke us of using it and we do not have any memory that we can recall of it. When my twin was working at the GM plant in Trenton, NJ there was a set of twins working there that still used their twin talk so making up a language is not so usual but claiming it's from God? Meh, don't think so.

@silverotter11 But did you understand one another or was it a matter of body language??

@JackPedigo According to my mom we did understand each other, which is probably what drove her to make us stop using our language. It's a long tale of divide and conquer which was her approach to child rearing. I've mentioned b4 we are identical-same egg and all but man our thinking is polar opposite. She is a gop voter, trumpette and church going believer. We do not have long conversations. The twins she worked with clearly understood each other.

@silverotter11 She probably says the same things about you - liberal hippy freak. lol Remember, you are sort of in her turf. Do you guys (I won't go down that road again with you) dress alike and like the same foods.

@JackPedigo We do have very similar taste in style but not color. Hard to know on a regular basis she lives in eastern Pennsylvania.

I’ve asked my hyper-religious mother that same question several times.
She’s still working out her response.

@Haemish1 They will use the “God uses the foolish things of this world to confound the wise men” argument. I was former Christian so I know the canned responses

With so many Christion Universities, they can generate slll sorts of self fulfilling research the want under the guise of University prestige. Nearly all of it is a farce.

Huh?!?

@RussRAB The spirit made me type in tongues.

@BestWithoutGods - I guess the spirit didn't allow me to read in tongues.