And don't forget Jonah surviving in the belly of a whale, blimey even Captain Ahab couldn't manage that and he was Captain of a Whaling ship, fictional of course just as the entire Goat-Herders Guide to the Galaxy is as well.

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Or, in other words, "So much shit and too small a shovel."

@Triphid Never heard that one before, but I like it.

@PadraicM Like it, then feel most free to use it as well.

I also thought some of those things while reading the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster by Bobby Henderson.

don't we often say the same stuff about other works we don't understand though? this is dunning-kruger at its finest i think. What is the Naive Dialectic? Would your pov of the Bible change if you could read in it, rather than the literal?

@bbyrd009 Hey, being one who has a ThD I have actually read that load of codswallop from cover to cover, word by word, sentence by sentence, etc, etc, through more times that I care to count.
It IS 100% unadulterated, Crapola, Garbage, Codswallop of the highest order bar none.

@Triphid ive heard it said that you don't read the Bible, the Bible reads you...but i might ask for an example

And pure Trash.

@SeaRay215ex Yep and not enough Garbage Collections around to get rid of it.

Hey it IS a perfectly accurate book for killing creepie-crawlies as they cross the floor when dropped on them from a height of about 18' to 2' directly above them....LOL.

You also need to remember that 'Jesus' also said that he has only come for the lost tribe of Israel, never mind that they were actually Canaanites, and that that Saul/Paul guy had some debates with Peter on talking to those non jews.

@gsiamne The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance." Isaiah 19:25

Jesus was Egyptian.

Peter was a Fisherman. Scholars I have heard of has said Fisherman were rather low or not educated. There are somethings peter may not very well understand as would Paul.

Judas betrays Jesus is fulfillment of old testiment written prophesy, but not by calling Judas's name. However, consider as if Jesus said, "Judas it is written I am to be betrayed for 30 peices of silver. in order to complete and fulfill the prophesies I need you to betray me".

Was he playing an unwilling role in this act? Does not Luke 22:3a state, “Then Satan entered Judas called Iscariot”? If Judas was possessed, was he responsible for this action? Perhaps the clearest indication that Judas felt differently about Jesus than the other disciples is how he addressed Jesus.
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Saul of Tarsus/Paul was a Pharisee among the Pharisees, a member of the group that held to the strictest following of the Law of the Jewish faith.

Paul understood from having a high education of the written text. Paul had know of how what was written about in old testiment is what is purported to have happened.. John 1:1 gives a clue to understand: In the beginning (or let us say "to start" is the logos (thought-word-speach), the logos was with God and was God.

John 1:14 ... the logos became flesh(a person).

The biblical theme is: What old testiment people thought and talked about was spoken into reality.

@Word Yes, that Saul/Paul guy created/expanded the Xian cult.

@gsiamne. Some of the book of Acts accounts of "the way" would not be much like modern christianity of mega-church corporations.

Paul perhaps a sort of forerunner for spreading "the good news". It wasn't until around 300 A.D. that:
The persecution of Christians ended with the next emperor, Constantine, took power and Christianity started to transition to being the dominant religion in the Roman Empire. [medium.com]

Did he get back new children or the same ones he had before?

@DenoPenno Yes, he did have additional children after that event but still had to mourn about the loss of the others.

And let's not forget Gawd created plants and trees BEFORE he created the sun as well.

yes, so you are obv reading literally, iow you havent even started reading yet, wadr. Since that never happened, a diff point is being made, most likely, and those who just insist it did happen will miss it

3600 years after Judaism (1800 years after Christianity) we finally abolished slavery.

(The slavery abolition act 1833)

Took us quite a while to undo judeo-christian “values”

@Mvtt slavery isn't abolished it has just changed forms and now called capitalism.

@Thirst2learn socialism - a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Taxing "...means of production, distribution, and exchange..." is not giving THE WHOLE a part ownership.

American capitalism taxation slavery is about president making some $400,000 a year salary while "citizens " are only guaranteed minimum wage WITHOUT having a profitable share as a part of a whole.

It is not socialism, it is capitalism slavery.

@Thirst2learn I don't vote, and I do not file income tax

@Mvtt Did we abolish slavery as such OR did we merely rename it as Earning a wage so the Boss/Bosses/Owners can get even richer?

@Triphid I think we will always FEEL like a slave, due to our nature, no matter the situation. Until we are free from our own thoughts.

@Mvtt Ah but, in our own thoughts we are FREE are we not?
We, as Atheists/Agnostics ARE Free to think as we will, be as we wish, etc, etc, and in some cases, even stand up and be counted as being on the side of Logic, Reasoning and Truth over Superstition, Rituals, Misogyny, Brutality, Cruelty, etc, etc.

@Triphid good question whether our thoughts are indeed free thought.