Well, again, I wrote a long commentary- and it vanished. I TOTALLY agree with the Guardian article.There are a few points to be made, but even educated Jews around the world are sickened by the murders of civilian Palestinians- and a try for another land grab.

The West is effectively complicit in persecution of the Palestinians. As I was flying to Chicago this weekend, I wondered if we have to fear planes being flown in to buildings more, but then considered that the Saudis don't care enough about the Palestinians.

I posted a quote yesterday about assumptions. There are two very dangerous assumptions going on here. The first is the Israeli's have the superior military force in the area atm. This assumption is wrong in my view as Hezbollah has over 100,000 troops who are battle hardened ie they are considered heroes in Syria for defeating ISIS. They have indicated they will join the fight if a ground invasion in Gaza occurs and if they do, no guarantee the IDF would prevail. Turkey also has a huge, well trained army and with Israel killing some of their own whilst attempting to deliver aid to Gaza years ago, they will not run to their defense..
Secondly, listening to Biden's speech, the US also assume their military capabilities are something they are not. If they join in and target Hezbollah based in Syria then those carriers will be targets for Russia, an Assad allie. The aircraft carriers are within range of Russian hypersonic missiles, missiles for which there is no defense.
I see Israel falling if they go into Gaza, where they will get bogged down with all those tunnels and urban warfare. Then they will have to deal with other fronts not of their choosing.
I think the US can say goodbye to garrison outposts in Syria and Iraq, which are already being attacked.
I do think the Israeli plan is to ethnic cleanse Gaza and claim it as their own, displacing Gazians into Egypt. I also think they will fail. Either way, it's going to get bloodier.
According to Scott Ritter, Israel being defeated will be a good thing because it is the only way a 2 state solution will come about for the Palestinians. They truly do need it as well to knock some of the arrogance out of them, reflected by how Palestinians are treated. If it means a long term, stable peace, I support the outcome of the IDF being defeated and forced to negotiate. Bit like what will happen in Ukraine.
Enough is enough.
Ed the scary thing is Israel has nukes and is far more likely to use them than all others who have them imo, excepting Nth Korea. That is scary.

Agree for the most part. Both sides have engaged in war crimes, genocide and ethnic cleansing. However, Egypt's blockade against Palestinians who want to leave is at least as evil as the active combatants. They don't mention that Israel has sought to destroy Palestinian militants on the Egyptian side, which Egypt doesn't like, but secretly welcomes. Egypt has no desire to take on Hamas.

King Abdullah of Jordan (which is mostly Palestinian) won't let in more Palestinians, calling such a prospect a 'Red Line' that Israel must not cross. Except that Abdullah is a dictator in a line of dictators that have stopped Palestinian self-determination in Jordan, but no one talks about that because he is a fellow Muslim.

Hamas is wrong, lsreal is wrong, and the USA has been wrong on pretty much everything we have done in the Middle East since the end of WWII. As soon as Isreal started encroaching into designated Palestinian land we should have stepped in and stopped it. Our hypocrisy knows no limits.

You only have to read a few lines and you immediately know that this is exactly the anti-Semitic crap that made Jeremy Corbyn lose his post as Labour leader, the guy who fails to clearly condemn the mass murder of 1300 civilians - just because they are Jews.

The author bemoans that the Gaza strip is under siege for 16 years now, but he does not ask the simple question: Why is this the case?
It certainly wasn't meant to become the "biggest open-air prison of the world" when Ariel Sharon handed control over to the Palestinian authorities in 2005 (against the fierce resistance from the settlers living there). The Palestinians there could have opted for business and peace, investing for example in tourism, but no -- after Hamas took control over the strip in 2006, it immediately turned it into a breeding ground for terror and a launching pad for DIY missiles, attacking again and again Israel only to provoke "overreactions" from the other side to get those gory pictures Hamas needs for its propaganda videos.

Question: if you live in a house and then discover that your worst enemies have moved into the neighbor's house, people who have sworn to kill you and your family: won't you invest in security measures, high fences, strong doors, double locks, an alarm system etc...? I bet you would.

Reminds me of the Trump/Christian alliance here. Netanyahu is a corrupt, unpopular, and cynical opportunist who needs this war to stay in power. The religious nuts want to take what little the Palestineans have because they have no interest in anything but their own agenda. Evil fanatics backing an amoral despot is a recipe for disaster.