I feel so down on my luck. I had one of my flings call me up and say he was in town and asked if he could come over. I said I wasn’t feeling it because my anorexia & depression is acting up and I’m also dealing with bad allergies. He stopped by anyways and I’m not one for surprises but I haven’t had sex in close to 8 months so I figured I’d give it a go. I’ve never slept with this one & I tried, I really did, but I just couldn’t get into it. When we were making out, I started having a panic attack but tried to ignore it. Today I’ve been really depressed, missing my ex that died New Years, 2018, and missing having someone who knew me. Finally, the guy stopped & said he was going to leave because he could tell I wasn’t into it & that even though I was consenting, the enthusiasm wasn’t there. I couldn’t even argue because I knew it wasn’t going to change. It seems I’ve always had troubles if I don’t have a connection with someone although I really wish I could. I don’t think I’ve even done it sober since high school. Ugh I really think the church shoving it down my throat that you should be in love really did it in for me.
Sounds to me as if you are clinically depressed. A couple of the major indicators of depression are: loss of libido -check; loss of appetite - check; lack of motivation - check (from the sound of it). I think you should see your doctor.
@1EarthLovingGal glad you're feeling better and I'm sorry to hear about your ex. As a few others have said, perhaps a bit of work on yourself and if therapists cost too much, time with girlfriends and light exercise will go a long way to help.
Sounds to me as though you did not give consent and the fling crossed boundaries. On a podcast, forgotten which, I heard consent defined as FRIES:
F = freely given, no coercion
R = retractable, you can change your mind at any time
I = informed; you know what you're saying 'yes' to
E = enthusiastic; it's not just 'Oh, ok' - it needs to be "YES!"
S = sober; you are not drunk or high when giving consent
IMO your fling violated Freely, Enthusiastic, and Sober (your mental state was appropriate for giving consent).
Love yourself first, you're not someone else's plaything.
(Just my opinion; sorry if I sound harsh. You were abused.)
Thank you for sharing this experience with us. I have no similar experience to relate this to, since I have never tried to pressure a woman into having sex. I'm glad it didn't become a rape. I'm also surprised that 8 months seems like a long time to go without sex.
I try to see myself in the role of the male and can't imagine being so bold. I try to see myself as you and can't imagine assenting to it. BUT I can see myself having a panic attack, which has happened many times.
Sex is very mysterious to me. I've done it but never understood it. I depend on other people's experience to help make it seem real for me. It's enlightening to learn that there are other people who have difficulty with it.
@1EarthLovingGal you don't need to get comfortable with hook up culture.. Just be you..
@1EarthLovingGal 8 months would be an eternity for me at 58! Look at your needs,, express your needs confidently, and don't settle for men who don't/won't meet your needs.
@Cutiebeauty Exactly. I never got comfy with hookup culture. It may be a bit trickier to find others out there not interested in just hooking up, but they are out there and worth the effort/wait.
@demifeministgal I'm not into hooking up either.. I waited patiently for the right man for me and it was definitely worth it
@1EarthLovingGal four years? But you're only 22.. I've waited and actively searched since I was in my early 20's and just found someone in 2018 when I was 28.. And I met him in Manhattan when I lived in Ferndale NY... An hour and a half drive . Maybe you need to move?
@1EarthLovingGal Take a lesson from someone who has been there. Sex with a lover is waaaay better than sex with a stranger. If you're horny, masturbate. If you need touch, you need a friend not a fling.
@1EarthLovingGal Yes, it's very hard to find someone who is a positive in your life, is both reliable and exciting, and with great chemistry. I'm not there now/anymore; IMO the best path is to stop looking. Go out and do things you enjoy and meet new people without any expectation of how the friendship will evolve. Maybe you'll be acquaintances, maybe great friends, maybe - just maybe - you'll find someone worthy of being your lover.
@1EarthLovingGal Sex was easier to find when I was drinking/drunk too. I quit drinking years ago and my sex life disappeared at the same time. When sober, I'm acutely sensitive to rejection and humiliation.
@1EarthLovingGal I'm a long time user of Meetup; it's free and it's mostly not a dating site. There are groups for many activities - from just social to dance to book clubs to hiking to topic-specific discussions to health & fitness. Usually I join groups that are in my own areas of interest, but sometimes I join groups to try something completely new - painting or salsa, for example. Put yourself into circulation while you enjoy your leisure time. The worst that happens is you have fun. Don't loose sight of the fact that you are am amazing wonderful person regardless of your relationship status. Love yourself first. Love yourself always.
@BitFlipper Sorry to hear that you had such a bond between drinking and sex. I'm hesitant to offer my advice since it's not clear you're asking for help or just sharing your own experience. Pls ignore if inappropriate: I was in your place, except without the drinking; I was immobilized by fears of rejection; I suspect I'm so comfortable being a recluse now since I spent so much time by myself years ago. What happened to change my perception? I fell in love. With myself. I looked at who I was and my personality. I realized that I'm a good person <list wonderful adjectives here!>. I'm not perfect because I'm also <insert list of dubious qualities> but that's who I am. I learned to accept myself, "flaws" and all, and come to treat flaws as "features". For example, I usually run late to appointments. So when I'm getting to know someone new, I let them know (with a smile & chuckle) that I'll probably be late sometimes but I'm working on it!
Rather than being sensitive to rejection, can you turn it around to feeling sorry for someone who doesn't recognize how great you are? Can you learn to evaluate rejection as a learning opportunity? (You can even shock the pants off your rejecter by saying "thank you for your honesty".) I might add, accepting yourself completely and loving who you are becomes the foundation of self-confidence. And that is really sexy. It's a big change of mind and takes practice; I believe you can do it. Best of luck!
@1EarthLovingGal @BitFlipper Meetup is free to be a user; it only costs if you want to create your own group and be the admin. And virtually every event I've attending is also free; I'm also on a tight budget. For example, just had a great book club discussion on Handmaid's Tale; got the book from the library, met at a cafe and had a diet pepsi. Made a couple new friends.
@David_ver_3 I really do appreciate your feedback. Because you've taken the time to contribute I want to clarify a bit.
Your idea of turning rejection around and making sympathy out of it seems inviting, but is also smacks of narcissism with a little psychosis. Nobody ever tells me why she's rejecting me anyway.
I do like what you say about "accepting yourself completely and loving who you are", but it's hard to imagine activities or behaviors to reach that state. It's tantalizing to imagine that thinking differently about myself could actually make me attractive. (I've always wished to become attractive).
@1EarthLovingGal It's hard to imagine you being rejected - you're beautiful. But I suppose if men only appreciate your beauty and nothing else, that could suck. Women sometimes appreciate my mind, but never want me to hold them in my arms.
It's wonderful that you're able to respect yourself more than those around you do. I've always been convinced that it's what other people think that counts.
Perhaps it is not just church based. Perhaps you are just a demisexual like me and you should not try to be something you are not, namely, one that engages in casual sex.
@1EarthLovingGal If you are in school, many offer free counselling to students. IT would be worth it to try counselling to resolve any issues you may have developed due to exes, what you saw growing up or the death of your ex. Good luck
@1EarthLovingGal might I suggest you be more firm with her and talk about them. I know that I directed my counselling sessions on my own. And if I wanted to talk about something I did and if I was not ready to talk about something, I would not. I figured, if there is one thing I would have control in my life over, it would be MY counselling/therapy sessions.
@1EarthLovingGal I've read and heard of emdr. I wonder if it will work. It's supposed to be very heavy and tiring-- obviously. But for those that it has worked for, it was worth it for the long run. Let us know how it goes? Alot of us may benefit from your knowledge and information.
In his defense, he did break off when your mood did not match his. Quite a few men would not have done so.
Sex is extremely personal , especially to women . You are , after all , allowing a man to push himself inside of you , and there's also the possibility of getting pregnant . There is absolutely no reason for having sex with anyone , unless you want to , and are prepared for it . You do not owe sex to anyone .
That was quite an assumption he made. And you were hoping for some closeness. Don't get down on yourself. It's a rare man that will understand when you tell them how you're feeling. And a woman's needs can be pretty strong!
Your attitude was correct, after all, you told him "better don't come". But sensitive men also feel when a woman tries to do it but she is not in the mood and that impairs the outcome. Church and upbring have a lot of influence in sexual attitude, I can see it in with my wife too. In other words, you did your best and it didn't happen, it was meant to be like that. No need to feel down on your luck. I feel for you...
@1EarthLovingGal oh baby, embrace your sexuality. You're a grown woman and can make choices for yourself now. You're a beautiful woman and being sexually empowered is a positive thing.
I think a lot of people, irrespective of religiosity, have difficulty expressing themselves sexually without an emotional connection. I don't think it means that you're broken or damaged, and not necessarily adversely affected by the church. I'm confident that, in time, you'll know yourself more fully, establish what you value, and have a clearer path forward regarding relationships. In the meantime, don't be too hard on yourself for feeling what you feel and for not being enthusiastic about sex at all times and with all who hit on you.
@1EarthLovingGal There will be time to find people you like with whom to explore your desires. The only thing I can suggest is to get to know people well before becoming intimate so you feel more confident you won't be used. But I realize that can be easier said than done.
@1EarthLovingGal What will change as you get older is the comfort you have with yourself.
So sorry it didn't work out... But he shouldn't have come over in the first place...
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