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if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah there's no transfer of consciousness. thats not a thing at all.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah there's no transfer of consciousness. thats not a thing at all.
if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah that doesnt say anything. Einstein removed everything from reality and still had expansion to overcome space-time curvature. I can account for every molecule in a body and still not account for cosmological expansion in space. thats the whole point. we don't know all the causations, but we do know some predictable results so we can theorize. calling such theories "woo" is a load of now just as it was when they said it to Einstein before he learned the physics to back up his ideas.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah that doesnt say anything. Einstein removed everything from reality and still had expansion to overcome space-time curvature. I can account for every molecule in a body and still not account for cosmological expansion in space. thats the whole point. we don't know all the causations, but we do know some predictable results so we can theorize. calling such theories "woo" is a load of now just as it was when they said it to Einstein before he learned the physics to back up his ideas.
if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah when einstein does a closed-loop energy conservation equation and finds himself having to account for universal expansion by a cosmological constant that isn't even a constant then I consider any talk of entropy in that matter to itself be a whole lot of your "woo". 80% of all the energy in existence is dark energy in seemingly unoccupied space so spare the comments about unsubstantiated. the problem with so many agnostics is they forget that nature tends to act like nature so matching unknowns up with knowns to look for patterns is the most basic of human exploration. any new idea is ridiculed until proven. that doesnt mean it is without merit. often ideas spring forth that may confound understanding and explanation for long stretches. we're just not catching up to the psychological analyses of the Indians of 3,000 years ago in the vedas. There's a difference between faith and confidence.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah when einstein does a closed-loop energy conservation equation and finds himself having to account for universal expansion by a cosmological constant that isn't even a constant then I consider any talk of entropy in that matter to itself be a whole lot of your "woo". 80% of all the energy in existence is dark energy in seemingly unoccupied space so spare the comments about unsubstantiated. the problem with so many agnostics is they forget that nature tends to act like nature so matching unknowns up with knowns to look for patterns is the most basic of human exploration. any new idea is ridiculed until proven. that doesnt mean it is without merit. often ideas spring forth that may confound understanding and explanation for long stretches. we're just not catching up to the psychological analyses of the Indians of 3,000 years ago in the vedas. There's a difference between faith and confidence.
if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah theoretical physics started with ideas and then turned to math for their proof. there are still many of einstein's that we're trying to prove or disprove mathematically as the case may be. I have no problems black-boxing things. we still use newtonian physics to explain behaviors up to a certain point even though we know it is incorrect on a macro level. so I find your reasoning a bit myopic and close-minded. but such is your right.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah theoretical physics started with ideas and then turned to math for their proof. there are still many of einstein's that we're trying to prove or disprove mathematically as the case may be. I have no problems black-boxing things. we still use newtonian physics to explain behaviors up to a certain point even though we know it is incorrect on a macro level. so I find your reasoning a bit myopic and close-minded. but such is your right.
if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah we are the chariot riders of our minds as described in the katha upanishad. the viewers of the projector screen that our senses and memories and thoughts paint a picture upon. we exist apart from them in the very fabric of reality and our only true, inherent sense is vibration. in our pure form we observe vibration. It's all we do. Being stuck in this meatsack is our little human vacation.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah we are the chariot riders of our minds as described in the katha upanishad. the viewers of the projector screen that our senses and memories and thoughts paint a picture upon. we exist apart from them in the very fabric of reality and our only true, inherent sense is vibration. in our pure form we observe vibration. It's all we do. Being stuck in this meatsack is our little human vacation.
if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah the Lord is in all I am in all. it's a retelling of the first verse of the isa upanishad from the yurveda. the vedanta feel that we are part if the actual fabric of the universe. the space. we are in all and we are the Lord. I use it for the whole dark energy discussion.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah the Lord is in all I am in all. it's a retelling of the first verse of the isa upanishad from the yurveda. the vedanta feel that we are part if the actual fabric of the universe. the space. we are in all and we are the Lord. I use it for the whole dark energy discussion.
if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah isavasyamidan sarvam ahamvasyamidam sarvam. jagatyam jagat.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Kafirah isavasyamidan sarvam ahamvasyamidam sarvam. jagatyam jagat.
if there is not God, I would like to know where did everything come from?
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Francesco108 not true at all. ask einstein. you forgot about the cosmological constant.
JeffMesser comments on Jul 2, 2019:
why does something have to come from something?
JeffMesser replies on Jul 2, 2019:
@Francesco108 not true at all. ask einstein. you forgot about the cosmological constant.
I'm not a Biden fan, but if I were his campaign manager I would put him in a coma until next ...
rogueflyer comments on Jun 30, 2019:
He always has. If I remember right even Obama made mention of it during his administration.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 30, 2019:
it annoys me that he was always just shy of being the butt of jokes back in the obama days and now he's supposedly the democrat establishment's choice?? the guy is best suited to be permanent mayorial material. NOT commander in chief.
rogueflyer comments on Jun 30, 2019:
He always has. If I remember right even Obama made mention of it during his administration.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 30, 2019:
it annoys me that he was always just shy of being the butt of jokes back in the obama days and now he's supposedly the democrat establishment's choice?? the guy is best suited to be permanent mayorial material. NOT commander in chief.
I want to admit, It's not cool being alone and feeling lonely.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I'm sorry. that truly sucks. it's sad that we can't trust people more easily without being burned. on the + side it makes thing all the better when it does happen ... but when you're on the outside looking in it sucks. I liked that quote from Keanu a lot about getting to like himself even better. ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@NatureGal you are certainly welcome. I wish you luck in your journey. namaste
JeffMesser comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I'm sorry. that truly sucks. it's sad that we can't trust people more easily without being burned. on the + side it makes thing all the better when it does happen ... but when you're on the outside looking in it sucks. I liked that quote from Keanu a lot about getting to like himself even better. ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@NatureGal you are certainly welcome. I wish you luck in your journey. namaste
I will be in shock if Biden is still the Front Runner after this debate.
linxminx comments on Jun 28, 2019:
I won't, because the media bias will keep his face in our faces. I saw a chart posted on Facebook on the minutes each candidate got to talk. Biden and Harris got close to 13 minutes while Andrew Yang got only 3 minutes to talk. The media commentators really do a LOUSY job of giving fair time to ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@linxminx well then you have a balance between the need for information and the need to act. man must take responsibility for being informed enough to separate the wheat from the chaff him/herself.
linxminx comments on Jun 28, 2019:
I won't, because the media bias will keep his face in our faces. I saw a chart posted on Facebook on the minutes each candidate got to talk. Biden and Harris got close to 13 minutes while Andrew Yang got only 3 minutes to talk. The media commentators really do a LOUSY job of giving fair time to ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@linxminx well then you have a balance between the need for information and the need to act. man must take responsibility for being informed enough to separate the wheat from the chaff him/herself.
I will be in shock if Biden is still the Front Runner after this debate.
linxminx comments on Jun 28, 2019:
I won't, because the media bias will keep his face in our faces. I saw a chart posted on Facebook on the minutes each candidate got to talk. Biden and Harris got close to 13 minutes while Andrew Yang got only 3 minutes to talk. The media commentators really do a LOUSY job of giving fair time to ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 28, 2019:
I understand your issue linx but there has to be some funneling effect or we could never come to a consensus. thats really indicative of the problem overall ... we have too many factions seeking singular support vice the factions looking for alliances and coalitions to gain a working minority or even a majority. each faction thinks they should get 100% of what they want. no one remembers diplomacy.
linxminx comments on Jun 28, 2019:
I won't, because the media bias will keep his face in our faces. I saw a chart posted on Facebook on the minutes each candidate got to talk. Biden and Harris got close to 13 minutes while Andrew Yang got only 3 minutes to talk. The media commentators really do a LOUSY job of giving fair time to ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 28, 2019:
I understand your issue linx but there has to be some funneling effect or we could never come to a consensus. thats really indicative of the problem overall ... we have too many factions seeking singular support vice the factions looking for alliances and coalitions to gain a working minority or even a majority. each faction thinks they should get 100% of what they want. no one remembers diplomacy.
DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
Just a placeholder for discussion:
I felt Warren was short-changed on ...
jerry99 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Wash Post has a summary of winners and losers:
Winners
Elizabeth Warren: The Massachusetts senator went into the debate with the biggest target on her back as the highest-polling candidate onstage. But she largely skated. Other candidates didn’t seem to have the appetite to put her on the ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 27, 2019:
Beto has just completely wilted. I hope this dismal showing will spur him to help someone else. Same for Gabbard.
jerry99 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Wash Post has a summary of winners and losers:
Winners
Elizabeth Warren: The Massachusetts senator went into the debate with the biggest target on her back as the highest-polling candidate onstage. But she largely skated. Other candidates didn’t seem to have the appetite to put her on the ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 27, 2019:
Beto has just completely wilted. I hope this dismal showing will spur him to help someone else. Same for Gabbard.
DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
Just a placeholder for discussion:
I felt Warren was short-changed on ...
jerry99 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Robert Reich just tweeted:
It's not a question of "left," "center," or "right." Pay attention to character, temperament, and thoughtfulness. Trump has the worst of these qualities of any president in modern history. America will vote for the opposite, the candidate who exhibits the best of ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 27, 2019:
my question about her has been that dreaded "electability" factor. I just get the feeling that she will wilt under the pressure of Trump's indifference to manners and logic and truth. I believe she's among the most intelligent and able of all the candidates and I bet she'd do an excellent job. All that said - IF she keeps rising in the polls and gets the nod I have no problems voting for her. At this point I still personally prefer Mayor Pete.
jerry99 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Robert Reich just tweeted:
It's not a question of "left," "center," or "right." Pay attention to character, temperament, and thoughtfulness. Trump has the worst of these qualities of any president in modern history. America will vote for the opposite, the candidate who exhibits the best of ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 27, 2019:
my question about her has been that dreaded "electability" factor. I just get the feeling that she will wilt under the pressure of Trump's indifference to manners and logic and truth. I believe she's among the most intelligent and able of all the candidates and I bet she'd do an excellent job. All that said - IF she keeps rising in the polls and gets the nod I have no problems voting for her. At this point I still personally prefer Mayor Pete.
Would Like A Response From Anti Trump Posters
dare2dream comments on Jun 26, 2019:
I'm with you. Any good criticism is much more valid without vulgarity and profanity. And just because Trump is vulgar and profane is not excuse for anyone else to be so. When they go low, we should go high.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 27, 2019:
@dare2dream class? you mean that bullshit where you put on airs because you're so internally weak that you must think others like you? I judge people by what they have to say - not their adherence to a bullshit list of social niceties.
dare2dream comments on Jun 26, 2019:
I'm with you. Any good criticism is much more valid without vulgarity and profanity. And just because Trump is vulgar and profane is not excuse for anyone else to be so. When they go low, we should go high.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 27, 2019:
@dare2dream class? you mean that bullshit where you put on airs because you're so internally weak that you must think others like you? I judge people by what they have to say - not their adherence to a bullshit list of social niceties.
Would Like A Response From Anti Trump Posters
dare2dream comments on Jun 26, 2019:
I'm with you. Any good criticism is much more valid without vulgarity and profanity. And just because Trump is vulgar and profane is not excuse for anyone else to be so. When they go low, we should go high.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 26, 2019:
oh please. Intelligent people cuss also.If our brutish language so offends your delicate sensibilities then perhaps you should retire to the patio for a mint julep while the adults talk.
dare2dream comments on Jun 26, 2019:
I'm with you. Any good criticism is much more valid without vulgarity and profanity. And just because Trump is vulgar and profane is not excuse for anyone else to be so. When they go low, we should go high.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 26, 2019:
oh please. Intelligent people cuss also.If our brutish language so offends your delicate sensibilities then perhaps you should retire to the patio for a mint julep while the adults talk.
The older I get the less my tolerance is for people that in any way attempt to criticize, abuse, ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
I got no problems with that. you might cut the militancy down by about half, but I say that growing up as a man. It may be your experience that speaking aggressively like that gets you the most consistent and dependable results. I'm open enough about my views to allow debate and the possibility that...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Lauraleigh39 I have no problems with confident women. Been working with them in court and the legislature for years. I just don't dig preemptive attacks.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
I got no problems with that. you might cut the militancy down by about half, but I say that growing up as a man. It may be your experience that speaking aggressively like that gets you the most consistent and dependable results. I'm open enough about my views to allow debate and the possibility that...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Lauraleigh39 I have no problems with confident women. Been working with them in court and the legislature for years. I just don't dig preemptive attacks.
The older I get the less my tolerance is for people that in any way attempt to criticize, abuse, ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
I got no problems with that. you might cut the militancy down by about half, but I say that growing up as a man. It may be your experience that speaking aggressively like that gets you the most consistent and dependable results. I'm open enough about my views to allow debate and the possibility that...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Lauraleigh39 I would have made the same comment to a man. Your mirror neurons don't fire up when you write something like that? I guess it is sexist that I expect more empathy from a woman than from a man. Your aggression is preemptive and unnecessary for the forum used. Perhaps even counterproductive. I gave a caveat to my statement - you just chose to ignore it.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
I got no problems with that. you might cut the militancy down by about half, but I say that growing up as a man. It may be your experience that speaking aggressively like that gets you the most consistent and dependable results. I'm open enough about my views to allow debate and the possibility that...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Lauraleigh39 I would have made the same comment to a man. Your mirror neurons don't fire up when you write something like that? I guess it is sexist that I expect more empathy from a woman than from a man. Your aggression is preemptive and unnecessary for the forum used. Perhaps even counterproductive. I gave a caveat to my statement - you just chose to ignore it.
The older I get the less my tolerance is for people that in any way attempt to criticize, abuse, ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
I got no problems with that. you might cut the militancy down by about half, but I say that growing up as a man. It may be your experience that speaking aggressively like that gets you the most consistent and dependable results. I'm open enough about my views to allow debate and the possibility that...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Lauraleigh39 and right there ... your limbic system kicked in and your PFC never engaged. It's not a sex issue - rude is rude. You invite conversation by making a thread then bite those who don't agree? Then why invite conversation at all? This isn't the prison cafeteria. You're not out here hanging signs and making proclamations.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
I got no problems with that. you might cut the militancy down by about half, but I say that growing up as a man. It may be your experience that speaking aggressively like that gets you the most consistent and dependable results. I'm open enough about my views to allow debate and the possibility that...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Lauraleigh39 and right there ... your limbic system kicked in and your PFC never engaged. It's not a sex issue - rude is rude. You invite conversation by making a thread then bite those who don't agree? Then why invite conversation at all? This isn't the prison cafeteria. You're not out here hanging signs and making proclamations.
Canada.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Marionville I dont believe the conflict that the 2 of you cite is a result of religious diversity. It is some other difference. Or just difference in general. Our brains operate on discerning differences so it's not like we'll just suddenly stop doing that and declare everyone officially the same. Even when we all have the same skin color some other difference will take its' place as our hate.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Marionville I dont believe the conflict that the 2 of you cite is a result of religious diversity. It is some other difference. Or just difference in general. Our brains operate on discerning differences so it's not like we'll just suddenly stop doing that and declare everyone officially the same. Even when we all have the same skin color some other difference will take its' place as our hate.
Canada.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda I will just have to agree to disagree with you there. I see people choosing various marga in yoga or following one of the astika dasanas or even nastika like Buddhism or jainism and they're living by those reverent to Shiva as well as those nigama who praise Shakti. Much more diverse than we enjoy in the states.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda I will just have to agree to disagree with you there. I see people choosing various marga in yoga or following one of the astika dasanas or even nastika like Buddhism or jainism and they're living by those reverent to Shiva as well as those nigama who praise Shakti. Much more diverse than we enjoy in the states.
Canada.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda lack of religious diversity? are you familiar with "hinduism"? it's nothing but diverse.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda lack of religious diversity? are you familiar with "hinduism"? it's nothing but diverse.
Canada.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda I'm very familiar with where the dalai lives. just as I am familiar with the home of sri ramakrishna on the complete opposite border. both espoused religious diversity.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda I'm very familiar with where the dalai lives. just as I am familiar with the home of sri ramakrishna on the complete opposite border. both espoused religious diversity.
Canada.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda no offense but I am going to trust the dalai lama, my personal observations, and those of my friends before you. the Hindu synthesis began in like 500 BCE so I believe they have a decent history of diversity even if there have been conflicts.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Allamanda no offense but I am going to trust the dalai lama, my personal observations, and those of my friends before you. the Hindu synthesis began in like 500 BCE so I believe they have a decent history of diversity even if there have been conflicts.
Canada.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Marionville I see the example of such huge religious disparity in India with relatively little unrest. I say that and we have a Buddhist/Sikh situation right now. But generally India is a good example of peaceful diversity - the Dalai Lama has mentioned as much more than a few times. If they can do that in Hindustan then why can't we in north america??
JeffMesser comments on Jun 23, 2019:
too much. let people wear their stuff.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 23, 2019:
@Marionville I see the example of such huge religious disparity in India with relatively little unrest. I say that and we have a Buddhist/Sikh situation right now. But generally India is a good example of peaceful diversity - the Dalai Lama has mentioned as much more than a few times. If they can do that in Hindustan then why can't we in north america??
I can't believe how many people on here take my posts so seriously! Its add though atheists get ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 22, 2019:
I have also found that atheists are a generally angry crowd.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 22, 2019:
@Renickulous zzzzzzzzzzzzz
JeffMesser comments on Jun 22, 2019:
I have also found that atheists are a generally angry crowd.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 22, 2019:
@Renickulous zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Have any of you tried vedantism?
WilliamFleming comments on Jun 21, 2019:
I have not made detailed studies of advaita or other schools of Hindu thought but I have read some of the Upanishads several times and I have read the Bhagavad Gita several times. The basic ideas of advaita appeal to me very much on an intuitive level. Atman, our true and higher self is one with ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 21, 2019:
That was a beautifully written response and completely accurate. You obviously are stuck right in the middle of my head. This point you so deftly describe is my current aspiration. It was nice to see someone else gets it.
I think you might enjoy the commentaries made by Sri Ramakrishna. His view was that all religions actually point us in the same direction.
I shy away from New Thoughts' views simply because they are nothing but an explanation of karma.
WilliamFleming comments on Jun 21, 2019:
I have not made detailed studies of advaita or other schools of Hindu thought but I have read some of the Upanishads several times and I have read the Bhagavad Gita several times. The basic ideas of advaita appeal to me very much on an intuitive level. Atman, our true and higher self is one with ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 21, 2019:
That was a beautifully written response and completely accurate. You obviously are stuck right in the middle of my head. This point you so deftly describe is my current aspiration. It was nice to see someone else gets it.
I think you might enjoy the commentaries made by Sri Ramakrishna. His view was that all religions actually point us in the same direction.
I shy away from New Thoughts' views simply because they are nothing but an explanation of karma.
Is anyone else on this site sick and tired of practically being called a bigot for saying the same ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 oh and I was being really dumb because I thought that was HIS comment. thats why I had no clue what he was talking about. now it makes sense saying it to him. oh well, lemme go run the kids off my lawn real quick.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 oh and I was being really dumb because I thought that was HIS comment. thats why I had no clue what he was talking about. now it makes sense saying it to him. oh well, lemme go run the kids off my lawn real quick.
Is anyone else on this site sick and tired of practically being called a bigot for saying the same ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 I was talking to that 20something pupster. I apologize if my ire wandered astray. I am not adept at wielding emotions so wantonly.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 I was talking to that 20something pupster. I apologize if my ire wandered astray. I am not adept at wielding emotions so wantonly.
Is anyone else on this site sick and tired of practically being called a bigot for saying the same ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 congratulations on a truly ignorant response. you have all the depth of a 23yo hollywood actress.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 congratulations on a truly ignorant response. you have all the depth of a 23yo hollywood actress.
Is anyone else on this site sick and tired of practically being called a bigot for saying the same ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@TheDarkNolanite false? you're 27 years old. I'd suggest you have a lot left to learn. Perhaps you could begin by reading Yuval Harari's "Sapiens".
JeffMesser comments on Jun 19, 2019:
by denouncing the entire belief system based on the actions of some followers you are doing the exact same thing that we accuse the christians of doing to blacks, women, the poor, homosexuals et al. religion in general is a tool - just like a hammer or a corporation. it is a tool under which humans ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@TheDarkNolanite false? you're 27 years old. I'd suggest you have a lot left to learn. Perhaps you could begin by reading Yuval Harari's "Sapiens".
Does anyone else struggle with hating religion?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I'd suggest reading the Dalai Lama's views on other religions and then take in Yuval Harari's book "Sapiens". Religion CAN be a useful tool for human society and the moral codes it often enforces likely justify it overall ... despite some examples of overreach and foul use by bad people.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 17, 2019:
@Kc2222 The only thing we actually control is the things that we allow to control us. Some of those things you just have to let go and watch the universe roll as it will. I find the yin and yang comforting for just that reason. The bad will only go on so long until the good swings around ... and the good will let up soon so don't dawdle. Things in the universe tend to autocorrect, but the corrections overshoot.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I'd suggest reading the Dalai Lama's views on other religions and then take in Yuval Harari's book "Sapiens". Religion CAN be a useful tool for human society and the moral codes it often enforces likely justify it overall ... despite some examples of overreach and foul use by bad people.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 17, 2019:
@Kc2222 The only thing we actually control is the things that we allow to control us. Some of those things you just have to let go and watch the universe roll as it will. I find the yin and yang comforting for just that reason. The bad will only go on so long until the good swings around ... and the good will let up soon so don't dawdle. Things in the universe tend to autocorrect, but the corrections overshoot.
I was just lighting the last four incence sticks, Opium, according to the package, and it occured to...
APaleBlueDot comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I think the young'ns these days shy away from perfumes. I have two, slightly varying takes on why:
Take 1: A woman, calling attention to herself, or appearing to try to make herself more alluring to the opposite sex is quite antithetical to the current sentiment in sexual relations.
...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@Allamanda ya ever thought about taking up smoking? thats a joke btw.
I see you're in the VI. yeah there's not much you can do. your environment is what's "isolating" you by its' goodness.
APaleBlueDot comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I think the young'ns these days shy away from perfumes. I have two, slightly varying takes on why:
Take 1: A woman, calling attention to herself, or appearing to try to make herself more alluring to the opposite sex is quite antithetical to the current sentiment in sexual relations.
...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@Allamanda ya ever thought about taking up smoking? thats a joke btw.
I see you're in the VI. yeah there's not much you can do. your environment is what's "isolating" you by its' goodness.
I was just lighting the last four incence sticks, Opium, according to the package, and it occured to...
APaleBlueDot comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I think the young'ns these days shy away from perfumes. I have two, slightly varying takes on why:
Take 1: A woman, calling attention to herself, or appearing to try to make herself more alluring to the opposite sex is quite antithetical to the current sentiment in sexual relations.
...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@Allamanda you should read Johnathan Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind". As we sanitize our environment from disturbances we also destroy our body's ability to deal with them. This is true on a physical as well as mental level. It's not just a saying, it's a fact.
Progress MUST be periodically retarded lest sudden changes break our resiliency. It's like pulling silly putty ... do it slow and you can stretch it a tremendous distance. Do it in an instant, however, and it snaps apart. Technology and evolution help make it more stretchy. But the frailties of human existence make that snap much more inevitable.
APaleBlueDot comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I think the young'ns these days shy away from perfumes. I have two, slightly varying takes on why:
Take 1: A woman, calling attention to herself, or appearing to try to make herself more alluring to the opposite sex is quite antithetical to the current sentiment in sexual relations.
...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@Allamanda you should read Johnathan Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind". As we sanitize our environment from disturbances we also destroy our body's ability to deal with them. This is true on a physical as well as mental level. It's not just a saying, it's a fact.
Progress MUST be periodically retarded lest sudden changes break our resiliency. It's like pulling silly putty ... do it slow and you can stretch it a tremendous distance. Do it in an instant, however, and it snaps apart. Technology and evolution help make it more stretchy. But the frailties of human existence make that snap much more inevitable.
Does anyone else struggle with hating religion?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I'd suggest reading the Dalai Lama's views on other religions and then take in Yuval Harari's book "Sapiens". Religion CAN be a useful tool for human society and the moral codes it often enforces likely justify it overall ... despite some examples of overreach and foul use by bad people.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@Kc2222 np. I was an anti-theist for many years. But then I figured out that it wasn't the entire concept of religion at fault - just the use by bad people. I still lose sight of that often where evangelicals are concerned. but calling all religion harmful is just like calling all muslims bad because of 9/11. religion is just a very powerful tool that like other tools can be used poorly.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I'd suggest reading the Dalai Lama's views on other religions and then take in Yuval Harari's book "Sapiens". Religion CAN be a useful tool for human society and the moral codes it often enforces likely justify it overall ... despite some examples of overreach and foul use by bad people.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@Kc2222 np. I was an anti-theist for many years. But then I figured out that it wasn't the entire concept of religion at fault - just the use by bad people. I still lose sight of that often where evangelicals are concerned. but calling all religion harmful is just like calling all muslims bad because of 9/11. religion is just a very powerful tool that like other tools can be used poorly.
Only 996 points until I’m halfway to level 8 ✊🏽🌈😂🤙🏽👊🏽🤪 Even less after I...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 15, 2019:
it's such a grind to 8
JeffMesser replies on Jun 15, 2019:
@Bobbyzen meh ... I prefer not to engage in such dopamine reindeer games. I'll get there when I get there.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 15, 2019:
it's such a grind to 8
JeffMesser replies on Jun 15, 2019:
@Bobbyzen meh ... I prefer not to engage in such dopamine reindeer games. I'll get there when I get there.
Voynich manuscript deciphered!?!
amymcmxcii comments on Jun 15, 2019:
Fascinating article. The author goes a bit far, however, in stating that this Proto-Romance was ancestor to all(?) modern Romance languages. Six hundred years earlier, French had already differentiated itself from Latin enough to be called a distinct language. The first document written in ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 15, 2019:
yeah ... what she said! I dont know squat about language histories or any of that mess. I think of it all more in terms of cultural which I guess is early in that romantic period. My views on these topics are much more population-center oriented which was before the national borders and language became a better distinction.
amymcmxcii comments on Jun 15, 2019:
Fascinating article. The author goes a bit far, however, in stating that this Proto-Romance was ancestor to all(?) modern Romance languages. Six hundred years earlier, French had already differentiated itself from Latin enough to be called a distinct language. The first document written in ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 15, 2019:
yeah ... what she said! I dont know squat about language histories or any of that mess. I think of it all more in terms of cultural which I guess is early in that romantic period. My views on these topics are much more population-center oriented which was before the national borders and language became a better distinction.
Voynich manuscript deciphered!?!
Lutherzme comments on Jun 14, 2019:
Article?
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
oops! my apologies
Lutherzme comments on Jun 14, 2019:
Article?
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
oops! my apologies
When it comes to ethical consuming, how idealistic or picky are you?
LiterateHiker comments on Jun 14, 2019:
Buy gas from the nearest place, regardless of the owner's religion.
I never go to stores or restaurants decorated with Confederate flags.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
good point. I was thinking that I dont have any scruples about my consumerism but I won't go somewhere with a rebel flag or nazis or all god'ed up. I am actually more inclined to visit a sikh or jewish or hindu establishment than one draped in christian covers.
LiterateHiker comments on Jun 14, 2019:
Buy gas from the nearest place, regardless of the owner's religion.
I never go to stores or restaurants decorated with Confederate flags.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
good point. I was thinking that I dont have any scruples about my consumerism but I won't go somewhere with a rebel flag or nazis or all god'ed up. I am actually more inclined to visit a sikh or jewish or hindu establishment than one draped in christian covers.
Imagine the carnage that ensued!
aahouck49 comments on Jun 14, 2019:
I have been thinking about this: we all come from Africa, you proved that, but think about this: maybe some Africans chased some of us out of Africa to the frozen lands, from which our white privileged asses hail from??
ever consider that one?
where did that white man Abraham come from?? and ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
@mkeaman oh yeah, you're right. I almost forgot about that part. good point! everyone else has mtDNA from other hominids except for the purely african.
aahouck49 comments on Jun 14, 2019:
I have been thinking about this: we all come from Africa, you proved that, but think about this: maybe some Africans chased some of us out of Africa to the frozen lands, from which our white privileged asses hail from??
ever consider that one?
where did that white man Abraham come from?? and ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
@mkeaman oh yeah, you're right. I almost forgot about that part. good point! everyone else has mtDNA from other hominids except for the purely african.
Imagine the carnage that ensued!
aahouck49 comments on Jun 14, 2019:
I have been thinking about this: we all come from Africa, you proved that, but think about this: maybe some Africans chased some of us out of Africa to the frozen lands, from which our white privileged asses hail from??
ever consider that one?
where did that white man Abraham come from?? and ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
that could certainly be the case. hominid on hominid would have been some ugly battling on the african plains. and we were all dark skinned and brown eyed. but up north there were the neandertals in france and spain and then even further you had denisovans who were tall and blonde or red haired with fair skin and blue eyes. I bet they were viewed as rather exotic!
aahouck49 comments on Jun 14, 2019:
I have been thinking about this: we all come from Africa, you proved that, but think about this: maybe some Africans chased some of us out of Africa to the frozen lands, from which our white privileged asses hail from??
ever consider that one?
where did that white man Abraham come from?? and ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 14, 2019:
that could certainly be the case. hominid on hominid would have been some ugly battling on the african plains. and we were all dark skinned and brown eyed. but up north there were the neandertals in france and spain and then even further you had denisovans who were tall and blonde or red haired with fair skin and blue eyes. I bet they were viewed as rather exotic!
Imagine the carnage that ensued!
Piratefish comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Natural selection can be a curious engineer. But consider the influence of colder climates, like in Scandinavia, which led to broader, thicker physiques as a means to better preserve heat. One of the natural results of such physical adaptation is increased strength. It's probably no coincidence ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 13, 2019:
plus they have denisovan mtDNA - some surmise that's where the red hair and blue eyes came from originally. the population in nord areas and further east along that northern coastline tend to have some huge people. the Smithsonian's genetics staff is interacting with chinese scientists to collect DNA samples to they can sequence and find the areas with denisovan DNA sequences because they potentially came from a branch of homo erectus superarchaic to homo heidelbergensis (from which we and neandertals sprang). This could give them some amazing earlier adaptations, or bases lacking as many generations of mtDNA change, that might tie them to some real exotic features. such as giants.
Piratefish comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Natural selection can be a curious engineer. But consider the influence of colder climates, like in Scandinavia, which led to broader, thicker physiques as a means to better preserve heat. One of the natural results of such physical adaptation is increased strength. It's probably no coincidence ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 13, 2019:
plus they have denisovan mtDNA - some surmise that's where the red hair and blue eyes came from originally. the population in nord areas and further east along that northern coastline tend to have some huge people. the Smithsonian's genetics staff is interacting with chinese scientists to collect DNA samples to they can sequence and find the areas with denisovan DNA sequences because they potentially came from a branch of homo erectus superarchaic to homo heidelbergensis (from which we and neandertals sprang). This could give them some amazing earlier adaptations, or bases lacking as many generations of mtDNA change, that might tie them to some real exotic features. such as giants.
Imagine the carnage that ensued!
t1nick comments on Jun 13, 2019:
I disagree with your conclusion in the sense that the time frame your suggesting (loosely implying) I think might be too short of a time and the interactions too infrequent to cause the evolutionary development you suggest. Its almost a Lamarckian perception. By that it almost like saying, ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 13, 2019:
good points. It may well have been more an issue of selective mating than actual evolutionary response. I do know there are some genetic differences between denisovan and neadertal and sapien and the denisovan differences that we can isolate seem to relate to high-altitude breathing and also oxygen absorption need by the blood. This helps them in the himalayas as well as under the sea diving which corresponds to unique activities used in the places their range extended within.
t1nick comments on Jun 13, 2019:
I disagree with your conclusion in the sense that the time frame your suggesting (loosely implying) I think might be too short of a time and the interactions too infrequent to cause the evolutionary development you suggest. Its almost a Lamarckian perception. By that it almost like saying, ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 13, 2019:
good points. It may well have been more an issue of selective mating than actual evolutionary response. I do know there are some genetic differences between denisovan and neadertal and sapien and the denisovan differences that we can isolate seem to relate to high-altitude breathing and also oxygen absorption need by the blood. This helps them in the himalayas as well as under the sea diving which corresponds to unique activities used in the places their range extended within.
Imagine the carnage that ensued!
Robecology comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Fascinating indeed.
I recall reading that the Oriental eyelid (which contains far more fatty tissue than most) evolved as eye protection from the cold.
I also recall reading that small-statured was a survival feature of many island species; from humans down to Key Deer. Something about the ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 13, 2019:
oh most definitely. homo florensis (the hobbit guy) was barely over a meter tall or so and it was indicative of other species who lived in island food chains. Less food available = smaller animals. good point.
Robecology comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Fascinating indeed.
I recall reading that the Oriental eyelid (which contains far more fatty tissue than most) evolved as eye protection from the cold.
I also recall reading that small-statured was a survival feature of many island species; from humans down to Key Deer. Something about the ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 13, 2019:
oh most definitely. homo florensis (the hobbit guy) was barely over a meter tall or so and it was indicative of other species who lived in island food chains. Less food available = smaller animals. good point.
What are YOUR doomsday fears??
brentan comments on Jun 11, 2019:
That was an interesting way of putting it:
'The limbic system of the brain versus the frontal cortex'.
Curiously, I've heard several good thinkers claim that the frontal cortex is the problem rather than the solution.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 11, 2019:
@brentan both works topped the NYT best-seller list for some time. good reading.
brentan comments on Jun 11, 2019:
That was an interesting way of putting it:
'The limbic system of the brain versus the frontal cortex'.
Curiously, I've heard several good thinkers claim that the frontal cortex is the problem rather than the solution.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 11, 2019:
@brentan both works topped the NYT best-seller list for some time. good reading.
What are YOUR doomsday fears??
brentan comments on Jun 11, 2019:
That was an interesting way of putting it:
'The limbic system of the brain versus the frontal cortex'.
Curiously, I've heard several good thinkers claim that the frontal cortex is the problem rather than the solution.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 11, 2019:
My thinking follows the same path as Yuval Harari (author of "Sapiens") as well as social psychologist and author Jonathan Haidt ("The Coddling of the American Mind").
brentan comments on Jun 11, 2019:
That was an interesting way of putting it:
'The limbic system of the brain versus the frontal cortex'.
Curiously, I've heard several good thinkers claim that the frontal cortex is the problem rather than the solution.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 11, 2019:
My thinking follows the same path as Yuval Harari (author of "Sapiens") as well as social psychologist and author Jonathan Haidt ("The Coddling of the American Mind").
Older Americans Are Preparing for Death, but Not Long-Term Care
JeffMesser comments on Jun 9, 2019:
well that's what pills and guns are for. we can't afford to live that long.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 9, 2019:
@MsDemeanour oh you're right. I agree. I don't wish to leave a mess for someone to clean. I'm thinking I can take some drugs and position a vat of acid or lye next to me in which to fall.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 9, 2019:
well that's what pills and guns are for. we can't afford to live that long.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 9, 2019:
@MsDemeanour oh you're right. I agree. I don't wish to leave a mess for someone to clean. I'm thinking I can take some drugs and position a vat of acid or lye next to me in which to fall.
[youtu.be]
everybody cut loose
JeffMesser comments on Jun 9, 2019:
if they're just a couple of peeps that was excellent! and impressive. if they're professional artists it was OK. if they're dancers it was horrid.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 9, 2019:
@whiskywoman blah! if they are professional dancers that WAS bad. I said if their normal janes and joes that was excellent. damn. isn't someone allowed to have an opinion?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 9, 2019:
if they're just a couple of peeps that was excellent! and impressive. if they're professional artists it was OK. if they're dancers it was horrid.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 9, 2019:
@whiskywoman blah! if they are professional dancers that WAS bad. I said if their normal janes and joes that was excellent. damn. isn't someone allowed to have an opinion?
Apparently we can no longer use the term lol anymore.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 9, 2019:
good lord!?!? did someone send that message by pony express there Pat? that was like 20 years ago.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 9, 2019:
@PatrickKerr ahhhh OK. I head it decades ago. they need some new material. better writers.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 9, 2019:
good lord!?!? did someone send that message by pony express there Pat? that was like 20 years ago.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 9, 2019:
@PatrickKerr ahhhh OK. I head it decades ago. they need some new material. better writers.
Being agnostic and being a close-minded dick are 2 different things
JacarC comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Not believing in an all-powerful imaginary friend in no way reflects an ability to be rational.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Jacar yeah I dont expect anyone to buy into the mythos. but some of that stuff is merely metaphor.
JacarC comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Not believing in an all-powerful imaginary friend in no way reflects an ability to be rational.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Jacar yeah I dont expect anyone to buy into the mythos. but some of that stuff is merely metaphor.
Being agnostic and being a close-minded dick are 2 different things
motrubl4u comments on Jun 7, 2019:
So someone said something you didn't like and didn't care what you thought about it? Something something something Big boy pants
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@motrubl4u so if I dont believe you should dismiss things before you know something about them then I am of the same cut? yeah. whatever. you know nothing about me yet you tell me to "get a life"? classic.
motrubl4u comments on Jun 7, 2019:
So someone said something you didn't like and didn't care what you thought about it? Something something something Big boy pants
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@motrubl4u so if I dont believe you should dismiss things before you know something about them then I am of the same cut? yeah. whatever. you know nothing about me yet you tell me to "get a life"? classic.
Being agnostic and being a close-minded dick are 2 different things
JacarC comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Not believing in an all-powerful imaginary friend in no way reflects an ability to be rational.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
"secular"
adjective
1. denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis.
JacarC comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Not believing in an all-powerful imaginary friend in no way reflects an ability to be rational.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
"secular"
adjective
1. denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis.
Being agnostic and being a close-minded dick are 2 different things
motrubl4u comments on Jun 7, 2019:
So someone said something you didn't like and didn't care what you thought about it? Something something something Big boy pants
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
no, someone prematurely dismissed an area of knowledge without first learning anything about it. something something don't be a dumbass.
motrubl4u comments on Jun 7, 2019:
So someone said something you didn't like and didn't care what you thought about it? Something something something Big boy pants
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
no, someone prematurely dismissed an area of knowledge without first learning anything about it. something something don't be a dumbass.
Being agnostic and being a close-minded dick are 2 different things
AmiSue comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Are you assuming that the skeptics here have been remiss in doing research and study?
I hope not. I don’t make claims without doing my homework. I am more likely to assume that our fellow skeptics are doing the work as well.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
I am not assuming anything. I was specifically "victimized" by one of these dicks earlier and he was among several I have encountered here as of late.
AmiSue comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Are you assuming that the skeptics here have been remiss in doing research and study?
I hope not. I don’t make claims without doing my homework. I am more likely to assume that our fellow skeptics are doing the work as well.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
I am not assuming anything. I was specifically "victimized" by one of these dicks earlier and he was among several I have encountered here as of late.
What if I make a REALLY good post?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven I am going to go ahead and get rid of you from my purveyance. You're close-minded and apparently very myopic. good luck in what you do.
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven I am going to go ahead and get rid of you from my purveyance. You're close-minded and apparently very myopic. good luck in what you do.
What if I make a REALLY good post?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven the fact you choose the word "woo" tells me a lot about you - especially when you use it in a response to claim yourself open-minded. After 10 years in nuclear engineering I certainly understand the point Lea is trying to make. The matrix algebra and accompanying summations he is trying to use to prove his point are the same ones we use for neutron flux in core design to calculate necessary rod positions and boron poison loading in core history to achieve supercriticality safely for Rx power while overcoming xenon accumulation. His suggestion is that wave functions serve to describe a different characteristic than newtonian physics application to particle movement and that ascribing a cause for that difference is a gross conceptual error. Lea's oversight is he doesn't properly grasp the field within which this threshold occurs. He completely misrepresents that term consciousness in a manner suggesting he has never read the vedas at all. Close-mindedness. Just as you are doing. Calling 3,000 years of scholarly efforts "woo" is akin to western medicine dismissing accupuncture and accupressure up until a decade ago. The same as western psychology dismissing 2,500 years of Indus Valley meditation and counseling research until recently. I think you need to wake up.
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven the fact you choose the word "woo" tells me a lot about you - especially when you use it in a response to claim yourself open-minded. After 10 years in nuclear engineering I certainly understand the point Lea is trying to make. The matrix algebra and accompanying summations he is trying to use to prove his point are the same ones we use for neutron flux in core design to calculate necessary rod positions and boron poison loading in core history to achieve supercriticality safely for Rx power while overcoming xenon accumulation. His suggestion is that wave functions serve to describe a different characteristic than newtonian physics application to particle movement and that ascribing a cause for that difference is a gross conceptual error. Lea's oversight is he doesn't properly grasp the field within which this threshold occurs. He completely misrepresents that term consciousness in a manner suggesting he has never read the vedas at all. Close-mindedness. Just as you are doing. Calling 3,000 years of scholarly efforts "woo" is akin to western medicine dismissing accupuncture and accupressure up until a decade ago. The same as western psychology dismissing 2,500 years of Indus Valley meditation and counseling research until recently. I think you need to wake up.
What if I make a REALLY good post?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven new age? what's new age about reading the vedas? I know exactly what the double slit experiment means and refers to. I think you have some reading to do. tying theoretical physics to neurology is far from new age ... something which you might be aware of with some education.
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven new age? what's new age about reading the vedas? I know exactly what the double slit experiment means and refers to. I think you have some reading to do. tying theoretical physics to neurology is far from new age ... something which you might be aware of with some education.
What if I make a REALLY good post?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven are you just trying to be the king of irony or what?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2019:
@Benthoven are you just trying to be the king of irony or what?
What if I make a REALLY good post?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2019:
@Benthoven today's mysticism is tomorrow's theory and a rule next week. The substrata to existence is an infinite mass of rules and probabilities and effects upon which our perceptions of things paint a picture. You affect those rules and that guides the universe for everything and us within our part. The double slit experiment shows us that probabilities are part of those rules and gears and that our mere thought affects them. The things we experience are just as much rules and formulas and math as they are actual sensations or thoughts. That swirling sun you're viewing is actually a complex orchestrated awareness of other incidents causing probability changes quite some distance away in what we call physical space. You may have to be of certain open thoughts to even be stimulated enough to experience some of these rules and probabilities. Maybe they create a vibration or something. I just know I don't always have to know how something works before I can learn to anticipate an expected response ... and often it seems as though my response was a pre-condition to the thing happening in the first place.
There is a probabilistic increase in the chances of increasing experience and knowledge simply be being open-minded.
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2019:
@Benthoven today's mysticism is tomorrow's theory and a rule next week. The substrata to existence is an infinite mass of rules and probabilities and effects upon which our perceptions of things paint a picture. You affect those rules and that guides the universe for everything and us within our part. The double slit experiment shows us that probabilities are part of those rules and gears and that our mere thought affects them. The things we experience are just as much rules and formulas and math as they are actual sensations or thoughts. That swirling sun you're viewing is actually a complex orchestrated awareness of other incidents causing probability changes quite some distance away in what we call physical space. You may have to be of certain open thoughts to even be stimulated enough to experience some of these rules and probabilities. Maybe they create a vibration or something. I just know I don't always have to know how something works before I can learn to anticipate an expected response ... and often it seems as though my response was a pre-condition to the thing happening in the first place.
There is a probabilistic increase in the chances of increasing experience and knowledge simply be being open-minded.
What if I make a REALLY good post?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2019:
@Benthoven well, I can tell you ... as a former southern baptist I was pretty close-minded when it came to studying eastern "mysticism". But when you consider that western science has only been addressing the human mind for maybe 125+ years while the Indus valley has focused on it for 3,000 then it comes as no surprise that many authorities and experts have come to embrace mindfulness meditation and the like now. The double slit experiment is opening many eyes and minds to the possibilities of ties between awareness and probabilities and the hidden world of quantum mechanics. So I wouldnt just be writing things off.
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2019:
@Benthoven well, I can tell you ... as a former southern baptist I was pretty close-minded when it came to studying eastern "mysticism". But when you consider that western science has only been addressing the human mind for maybe 125+ years while the Indus valley has focused on it for 3,000 then it comes as no surprise that many authorities and experts have come to embrace mindfulness meditation and the like now. The double slit experiment is opening many eyes and minds to the possibilities of ties between awareness and probabilities and the hidden world of quantum mechanics. So I wouldnt just be writing things off.
What if I make a REALLY good post?
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2019:
I'd say that you've never reached enlightenment.
Benthoven comments on Jun 6, 2019:
It's been my experience that those who think they're "mind blowing and completely enlightening" should cut back on the edibles before they go online.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2019:
I'd say that you've never reached enlightenment.
I commented on a news article about the Virginia Beach shooting and said it was time we began ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 4, 2019:
DISCUSS WHAT??? There is nothing to discuss. This is the cost of our embracing the 2nd amendment. It's obvious that the American people have accepted that. People pay dearly yearly for our embrace of an ignorant right. That's just the way it is.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Rob1948 getting people to recognize the insecurity is also something.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 4, 2019:
DISCUSS WHAT??? There is nothing to discuss. This is the cost of our embracing the 2nd amendment. It's obvious that the American people have accepted that. People pay dearly yearly for our embrace of an ignorant right. That's just the way it is.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Rob1948 getting people to recognize the insecurity is also something.
I commented on a news article about the Virginia Beach shooting and said it was time we began ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 4, 2019:
DISCUSS WHAT??? There is nothing to discuss. This is the cost of our embracing the 2nd amendment. It's obvious that the American people have accepted that. People pay dearly yearly for our embrace of an ignorant right. That's just the way it is.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Rob1948 it's not a do nothing attitude. we need a constitutional amendment. you mistake the strength of their resolve when it comes to their insecurities. there's a reason maslow has personal security so high in his hierarchy. you're assuming logic and reasoning in a thoughtful discussion. that's not what happens as long as their have these insecurities. you're dealing with the lizard brain, not the PFC.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 4, 2019:
DISCUSS WHAT??? There is nothing to discuss. This is the cost of our embracing the 2nd amendment. It's obvious that the American people have accepted that. People pay dearly yearly for our embrace of an ignorant right. That's just the way it is.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Rob1948 it's not a do nothing attitude. we need a constitutional amendment. you mistake the strength of their resolve when it comes to their insecurities. there's a reason maslow has personal security so high in his hierarchy. you're assuming logic and reasoning in a thoughtful discussion. that's not what happens as long as their have these insecurities. you're dealing with the lizard brain, not the PFC.
I commented on a news article about the Virginia Beach shooting and said it was time we began ...
JeffMesser comments on Jun 4, 2019:
DISCUSS WHAT??? There is nothing to discuss. This is the cost of our embracing the 2nd amendment. It's obvious that the American people have accepted that. People pay dearly yearly for our embrace of an ignorant right. That's just the way it is.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Rob1948 I am by no means happy about it but we act as though there is some magic action we can take and there isn't as long as we embrace gun ownership.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 4, 2019:
DISCUSS WHAT??? There is nothing to discuss. This is the cost of our embracing the 2nd amendment. It's obvious that the American people have accepted that. People pay dearly yearly for our embrace of an ignorant right. That's just the way it is.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 4, 2019:
@Rob1948 I am by no means happy about it but we act as though there is some magic action we can take and there isn't as long as we embrace gun ownership.
What happens after you die?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 2, 2019:
your body dies but your consciousness rejoins the whole.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@Dicaron consciousness or awareness exists apart from our bodies. Think of your body as a chariot and your consciousness is the rider. The entity that observes the little universe your senses are projecting onto the screen of your life. Once your body dies that awareness goes back to the whole from whence it came - no longer limited to this chariot.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 2, 2019:
your body dies but your consciousness rejoins the whole.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@Dicaron consciousness or awareness exists apart from our bodies. Think of your body as a chariot and your consciousness is the rider. The entity that observes the little universe your senses are projecting onto the screen of your life. Once your body dies that awareness goes back to the whole from whence it came - no longer limited to this chariot.
What happens after you die?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 2, 2019:
your body dies but your consciousness rejoins the whole.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@DenoPenno of course you dont. your memories are in these brain cells.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 2, 2019:
your body dies but your consciousness rejoins the whole.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 3, 2019:
@DenoPenno of course you dont. your memories are in these brain cells.
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@altschmerz there's more to it than just telling you what the words mean
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@altschmerz there's more to it than just telling you what the words mean
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@altschmerz, @Cutiebeauty It's often true that the journey is more important than the destination. Sorry young lady but you're wrong.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@altschmerz, @Cutiebeauty It's often true that the journey is more important than the destination. Sorry young lady but you're wrong.
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@altschmerz it's sanskrit and located within the Brihadaranyaka upanishad as well as T.S. Eliot's WWI poem "The Wasteland".
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@altschmerz it's sanskrit and located within the Brihadaranyaka upanishad as well as T.S. Eliot's WWI poem "The Wasteland".
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty if you don't have enough curiosity to find out then they won't mean anything to you anyway. one of the weaknesses of youth.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty if you don't have enough curiosity to find out then they won't mean anything to you anyway. one of the weaknesses of youth.
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty and then she was introduced to the wonders of the internet and google ...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty and then she was introduced to the wonders of the internet and google ...
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty yours didnt have any meaning. mine did.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty yours didnt have any meaning. mine did.
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty my 3 words actually have meaning and are rather important.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty my 3 words actually have meaning and are rather important.
Three words... Go...
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty rude and ignorant
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty rude and ignorant
If you are debating whether to see "John Wick 3: Parabellum," don't.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
yeah, it's pretty formulaic so if you go just looking for cool fights then you'll be set. if you're actually trying follow a decent storyline then it's not superb. I even got that same impression from Keanu's own reactions when the subject came up in an interview. I think he thinks he's kind of a ...
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@Jewelee65 agreed! I like him a lot too. He's one of my spiritual models of sorts.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
yeah, it's pretty formulaic so if you go just looking for cool fights then you'll be set. if you're actually trying follow a decent storyline then it's not superb. I even got that same impression from Keanu's own reactions when the subject came up in an interview. I think he thinks he's kind of a ...
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@Jewelee65 agreed! I like him a lot too. He's one of my spiritual models of sorts.
Isn't Satan the good guy?
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
there's no such thing as satan. don't feed to evangelical trolls.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@Carla_Jones oh. social norms. I think the historical analysis of community religious texts is fascinating. you take those little communities around judea prior to the first council at nicea. they developed different christian books based on the rules pertinent to their area and when these were brought forth at that first Nicean meeting the diversity was extreme. it just shows that the mythos they develop differentiates quickly if the communities aren't tightly bound. thats where all the little BS rules from Leviticus come from compered to other books of their buy-bull as well as the differing stories comparing the book of enoch to other texts that Anathasius accepted as canon for the orthodoxy. some communities didnt even have a satan nor a hell and heaven. I like yuval harari's approach to the topic of religion as a necessity for human identification for groups.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
there's no such thing as satan. don't feed to evangelical trolls.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@Carla_Jones oh. social norms. I think the historical analysis of community religious texts is fascinating. you take those little communities around judea prior to the first council at nicea. they developed different christian books based on the rules pertinent to their area and when these were brought forth at that first Nicean meeting the diversity was extreme. it just shows that the mythos they develop differentiates quickly if the communities aren't tightly bound. thats where all the little BS rules from Leviticus come from compered to other books of their buy-bull as well as the differing stories comparing the book of enoch to other texts that Anathasius accepted as canon for the orthodoxy. some communities didnt even have a satan nor a hell and heaven. I like yuval harari's approach to the topic of religion as a necessity for human identification for groups.
Figured out my problem. I need to be drinking more of this.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
more friends, fewer enemies, more compassion.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@CarolinaGirl60 not positivity police at all. Ive been to the bottom of my barrel completely and forgiveness was the only way to navigate it. there's no forgiving someone for raping your toddler daughter - especially when it's family. there's no forgiving someone for getting your father charged and thrown in jail for their meth lab. but I had to find compassion and forgive or else I would have eaten a bullet. and I was there trust me. many paths but one destination. namaste.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
more friends, fewer enemies, more compassion.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@CarolinaGirl60 not positivity police at all. Ive been to the bottom of my barrel completely and forgiveness was the only way to navigate it. there's no forgiving someone for raping your toddler daughter - especially when it's family. there's no forgiving someone for getting your father charged and thrown in jail for their meth lab. but I had to find compassion and forgive or else I would have eaten a bullet. and I was there trust me. many paths but one destination. namaste.
Figured out my problem. I need to be drinking more of this.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
more friends, fewer enemies, more compassion.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@CarolinaGirl60 The worse the enemy the greater chance to show compassion and forgiveness. I don't have to meet your enemies to know that. namaste
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2019:
more friends, fewer enemies, more compassion.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2019:
@CarolinaGirl60 The worse the enemy the greater chance to show compassion and forgiveness. I don't have to meet your enemies to know that. namaste
[youtu.be]
why intelligent people believe in God
JeffMesser comments on May 16, 2019:
meh. I am sure this has a lot of relevance but I remain convinced that Maslow's hierarchy of values explains it better.
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2019:
@m16566 not that complicated really. the christians I know that are intelligent still believe because of the security. when you've grown under that "spectre" then it's an innate secure feeling.
JeffMesser comments on May 16, 2019:
meh. I am sure this has a lot of relevance but I remain convinced that Maslow's hierarchy of values explains it better.
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2019:
@m16566 not that complicated really. the christians I know that are intelligent still believe because of the security. when you've grown under that "spectre" then it's an innate secure feeling.
I consider socialism, whatever political or religious identity, often being nothing else as a severe...
JeffMesser comments on May 25, 2019:
then you're daft
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
@Sputnik I dont remember claiming it was a strong argument. It was my opinion of that tripe you wrote above.
JeffMesser comments on May 25, 2019:
then you're daft
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
@Sputnik I dont remember claiming it was a strong argument. It was my opinion of that tripe you wrote above.
I consider socialism, whatever political or religious identity, often being nothing else as a severe...
JeffMesser comments on May 25, 2019:
then you're daft
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
@Sputnik if you don't like my parlance then I will change my comment to "myopic".
JeffMesser comments on May 25, 2019:
then you're daft
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
@Sputnik if you don't like my parlance then I will change my comment to "myopic".
Watch me explain existence
WilliamFleming comments on May 26, 2019:
Jeff, your post resonates with me. There is conscious awareness and there are thoughts, sensations, and memory. Maybe our minds organize those thoughts and sensations into categories, creating space, time, and “things” as the basic framework for the graph. At first there’s just Conscious ...
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
yeah I know it's a stretch. I am trying to black box the things we have yet to understand while sticking to some basic ideas like all things are borne from space, stuff, and rules. I can visualize it and it's a matter of converting that to words.
WilliamFleming comments on May 26, 2019:
Jeff, your post resonates with me. There is conscious awareness and there are thoughts, sensations, and memory. Maybe our minds organize those thoughts and sensations into categories, creating space, time, and “things” as the basic framework for the graph. At first there’s just Conscious ...
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
yeah I know it's a stretch. I am trying to black box the things we have yet to understand while sticking to some basic ideas like all things are borne from space, stuff, and rules. I can visualize it and it's a matter of converting that to words.
Watch me explain existence
Happy_Killbot comments on May 26, 2019:
I agree that human awareness lags a few milliseconds behind the recieveal of information from the senses, but I don't think the universe was binary at any point. Based on my weak understanding of quantum field theory, it literally isn't possible for 1 to exist, unless -1 exists simultaneously. In ...
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
those are certainly valid, reasonable objections. namaste
Happy_Killbot comments on May 26, 2019:
I agree that human awareness lags a few milliseconds behind the recieveal of information from the senses, but I don't think the universe was binary at any point. Based on my weak understanding of quantum field theory, it literally isn't possible for 1 to exist, unless -1 exists simultaneously. In ...
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2019:
those are certainly valid, reasonable objections. namaste
Bored? Try some russian history
GeorgeRocheleau comments on May 24, 2019:
I read this when it first came out in paperback (1975 ?), and also read one of his other books, August 1914. Great books, but a bit of a slog.
JeffMesser replies on May 24, 2019:
yeah, I just picked up reading again after wasting the first 50 some-odd years of my life.
GeorgeRocheleau comments on May 24, 2019:
I read this when it first came out in paperback (1975 ?), and also read one of his other books, August 1914. Great books, but a bit of a slog.
JeffMesser replies on May 24, 2019:
yeah, I just picked up reading again after wasting the first 50 some-odd years of my life.
Bored? Try some russian history
Summer72 comments on May 24, 2019:
I haven't watched Chernobyl. You must have liked it. I think I'll check it out. History is fascinating to me. Gulag sounds interesting too.
JeffMesser replies on May 24, 2019:
I like chernobyl because I worked in nuclear power for awhile. So it's fun to see how accurate they are.
Summer72 comments on May 24, 2019:
I haven't watched Chernobyl. You must have liked it. I think I'll check it out. History is fascinating to me. Gulag sounds interesting too.
JeffMesser replies on May 24, 2019:
I like chernobyl because I worked in nuclear power for awhile. So it's fun to see how accurate they are.
PETE BUTTIGIEG GOES NUCLEAR
Mayor Pete claims Trump faked disability to avoid draft
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KKGator comments on May 23, 2019:
Yes. Dodgy McBoneSpurs lied to get out of serving.
First, when asked, he couldn't remember which foot was afflicted. Then, he said it was both.
Still haven't gotten any evidence that any of it actually happened.
JeffMesser replies on May 23, 2019:
@St-Sinner ... and? I don't like Clinton for doing it either. That is 5yo logic "but billy did it too!"
KKGator comments on May 23, 2019:
Yes. Dodgy McBoneSpurs lied to get out of serving.
First, when asked, he couldn't remember which foot was afflicted. Then, he said it was both.
Still haven't gotten any evidence that any of it actually happened.
JeffMesser replies on May 23, 2019:
@St-Sinner ... and? I don't like Clinton for doing it either. That is 5yo logic "but billy did it too!"
PETE BUTTIGIEG GOES NUCLEAR
Mayor Pete claims Trump faked disability to avoid draft
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jlynn37 comments on May 23, 2019:
It is history, it won't change anything, so why bring it up?
JeffMesser replies on May 23, 2019:
why bring it up? because he is a lying, cheating sack of dung and anything to pin on him makes me smile.
jlynn37 comments on May 23, 2019:
It is history, it won't change anything, so why bring it up?
JeffMesser replies on May 23, 2019:
why bring it up? because he is a lying, cheating sack of dung and anything to pin on him makes me smile.
Alabama Public Television refuses to air 'Arthur' episode with gay wedding
thinktwice comments on May 21, 2019:
My parents talked to us about gay couples when I was in elementary school...at that age, I didn't think it was any big deal...like two friends living together, which I thought was cool and not so lonely...what the heck? I guess the value to dislike others because they are not like us is more ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2019:
@thinktwice oh no I am just talking about haters in general. my bad.
thinktwice comments on May 21, 2019:
My parents talked to us about gay couples when I was in elementary school...at that age, I didn't think it was any big deal...like two friends living together, which I thought was cool and not so lonely...what the heck? I guess the value to dislike others because they are not like us is more ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2019:
@thinktwice oh no I am just talking about haters in general. my bad.
Washington becomes first state to allow human composting
Petter comments on May 21, 2019:
I'm all for it. As I wrote some years ago, in the second verse of the poem I want for my obituary:-
No mausoleum, no funeral pyre,
Just lay me in the earth.
Let my body restore a part of what
It has plundered since its birth.
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2019:
I think I will have a death limerick instead ...
jeff is this dude who has died
his mind was most usually fried
and following this service
no need to be nervous
there's WEED for all those who have cried!!
Petter comments on May 21, 2019:
I'm all for it. As I wrote some years ago, in the second verse of the poem I want for my obituary:-
No mausoleum, no funeral pyre,
Just lay me in the earth.
Let my body restore a part of what
It has plundered since its birth.
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2019:
I think I will have a death limerick instead ...
jeff is this dude who has died
his mind was most usually fried
and following this service
no need to be nervous
there's WEED for all those who have cried!!
Alabama Public Television refuses to air 'Arthur' episode with gay wedding
thinktwice comments on May 21, 2019:
My parents talked to us about gay couples when I was in elementary school...at that age, I didn't think it was any big deal...like two friends living together, which I thought was cool and not so lonely...what the heck? I guess the value to dislike others because they are not like us is more ...
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2019:
it makes me sad because they bring out hate in me for them hating others. it actually takes effort to overcome my aversion and try to understand why they're so ugly.
thinktwice comments on May 21, 2019:
My parents talked to us about gay couples when I was in elementary school...at that age, I didn't think it was any big deal...like two friends living together, which I thought was cool and not so lonely...what the heck? I guess the value to dislike others because they are not like us is more ...
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2019:
it makes me sad because they bring out hate in me for them hating others. it actually takes effort to overcome my aversion and try to understand why they're so ugly.
How do you answer the banal message, "Hey, how are you?"
JeffMesser comments on May 20, 2019:
what is so wrong about trying to be nice?
JeffMesser replies on May 20, 2019:
@LiterateHiker oh, my bad. you're talking about here. on this site. I thought you were just saying people in general. Like out in public. I spaced it. I'm high. My humblest apologies! I am sure that is rather annoying. If they take the time to drop a line it should at least be entertaining or stimulating. I'd SAY I feel your pain, but no one is sending me shit so that would be a lie. I hope your attention gets more interesting in the future. namaste
JeffMesser comments on May 20, 2019:
what is so wrong about trying to be nice?
JeffMesser replies on May 20, 2019:
@LiterateHiker oh, my bad. you're talking about here. on this site. I thought you were just saying people in general. Like out in public. I spaced it. I'm high. My humblest apologies! I am sure that is rather annoying. If they take the time to drop a line it should at least be entertaining or stimulating. I'd SAY I feel your pain, but no one is sending me shit so that would be a lie. I hope your attention gets more interesting in the future. namaste
Suggested reading?
MrLink comments on May 20, 2019:
Have you read Harari's new book, Homo Deus? I just started it. So far, so good
JeffMesser replies on May 20, 2019:
not yet but I am planning on it soon. I dug myself into gulag archipeligo so I'm gonna be awhile.
MrLink comments on May 20, 2019:
Have you read Harari's new book, Homo Deus? I just started it. So far, so good
JeffMesser replies on May 20, 2019:
not yet but I am planning on it soon. I dug myself into gulag archipeligo so I'm gonna be awhile.
Finally a good picture of Trump
DenoPenno comments on May 19, 2019:
Who's ass is he kissing?
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2019:
meh idk. some dude.
DenoPenno comments on May 19, 2019:
Who's ass is he kissing?
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2019:
meh idk. some dude.
Plausible? An elephant saving a man thought to be drowning? [twitter.com]
JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2019:
it's not just plausible, it's true. spend some time in SE Asia and you'll understand.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2019:
@ToolGuy she's acting just like they do when a calf is in the water. given the part of their brain that lights up when they are interacting with humans it doesn't surprise me a bit that they act maternal towards a human they believe is in a hazard. they think of us as cute.
JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2019:
it's not just plausible, it's true. spend some time in SE Asia and you'll understand.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2019:
@ToolGuy she's acting just like they do when a calf is in the water. given the part of their brain that lights up when they are interacting with humans it doesn't surprise me a bit that they act maternal towards a human they believe is in a hazard. they think of us as cute.
Migrant infants have appeared as defendants in immigration court for years, despite viral claim
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JeffMesser comments on May 15, 2019:
there's truth to what you say there. but at this point I am shooting just to get trump out of there. I had some issues with Obama though ... including but not limited to drones and marital equality.
JeffMesser replies on May 15, 2019:
@altschmerz yep. and it's all thanks to conservatives and, mostly, the evangelicals.
JeffMesser comments on May 15, 2019:
there's truth to what you say there. but at this point I am shooting just to get trump out of there. I had some issues with Obama though ... including but not limited to drones and marital equality.
JeffMesser replies on May 15, 2019:
@altschmerz yep. and it's all thanks to conservatives and, mostly, the evangelicals.
Maybe this is a wierd question.
darthfaja comments on May 11, 2019:
The two are not equal. I haven’t seen anyone tortured to death for being Atheist.
JeffMesser replies on May 11, 2019:
uh - many have been.
darthfaja comments on May 11, 2019:
The two are not equal. I haven’t seen anyone tortured to death for being Atheist.
JeffMesser replies on May 11, 2019:
uh - many have been.
I wonder about the Igboukwu people of Nigeria.
Cast1es comments on May 10, 2019:
I've been seeing photos of some extradorinarly tall Chinese on facebook lately . A DNA sequence would explain that .
JeffMesser replies on May 10, 2019:
the first homo erectus "bloom" that possibly populated early china branched off from the other hominids prior to homo heidelbergensis. that would be the first sprout from the branch in the picture below. the interbreeding between erectus and denisovan (and subsequent with neandertal as seen in the denisovan cave) easily shows a potential for significantly archaic gene sequences. thus you could have mDNA sequences from like 32 generations earlier which means millions of fewer possibilities for mutation compared to the original code. I speculate the old chinese myths of dragon people and the like may stem from actual people who had some significantly different features from the so-called norm.
Cast1es comments on May 10, 2019:
I've been seeing photos of some extradorinarly tall Chinese on facebook lately . A DNA sequence would explain that .
JeffMesser replies on May 10, 2019:
the first homo erectus "bloom" that possibly populated early china branched off from the other hominids prior to homo heidelbergensis. that would be the first sprout from the branch in the picture below. the interbreeding between erectus and denisovan (and subsequent with neandertal as seen in the denisovan cave) easily shows a potential for significantly archaic gene sequences. thus you could have mDNA sequences from like 32 generations earlier which means millions of fewer possibilities for mutation compared to the original code. I speculate the old chinese myths of dragon people and the like may stem from actual people who had some significantly different features from the so-called norm.
Just returned from Istanbul, Turkey.
Allamanda comments on May 7, 2019:
well done, and thanks for talking about it on your return! As Twain said, "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness."
JeffMesser replies on May 7, 2019:
@MakeItGood yeah interdiction. we sank a smuggler's ship and floated a bunch of cocaine then pulled into port in Venezuela and partied with hookers and blow.
Allamanda comments on May 7, 2019:
well done, and thanks for talking about it on your return! As Twain said, "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness."
JeffMesser replies on May 7, 2019:
@MakeItGood yeah interdiction. we sank a smuggler's ship and floated a bunch of cocaine then pulled into port in Venezuela and partied with hookers and blow.
Just returned from Istanbul, Turkey.
Allamanda comments on May 7, 2019:
well done, and thanks for talking about it on your return! As Twain said, "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness."
JeffMesser replies on May 7, 2019:
couldn't agree more. the wisest decision I ever made was joining the US Navy and getting out of Oklahoma. I ended up being stationed in Chicago then Orlando then Georgia then NY then Virginia then southern Cali then northern Cali then Seattle. I did the entire country, 2 med cruises, a westpac, a north atlantic, a south american drug cruise, and followed it all up with living for 50 days in a Buddhist monastery outside Kathmandu. Talk about eye-openers.
Allamanda comments on May 7, 2019:
well done, and thanks for talking about it on your return! As Twain said, "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness."
JeffMesser replies on May 7, 2019:
couldn't agree more. the wisest decision I ever made was joining the US Navy and getting out of Oklahoma. I ended up being stationed in Chicago then Orlando then Georgia then NY then Virginia then southern Cali then northern Cali then Seattle. I did the entire country, 2 med cruises, a westpac, a north atlantic, a south american drug cruise, and followed it all up with living for 50 days in a Buddhist monastery outside Kathmandu. Talk about eye-openers.
Rescued a stray cat a month ago.
JeffMesser comments on May 3, 2019:
you cared about and spent money on a cat
JeffMesser replies on May 3, 2019:
@Sticks48 I do agree with that!
JeffMesser comments on May 3, 2019:
you cared about and spent money on a cat
JeffMesser replies on May 3, 2019:
@Sticks48 I do agree with that!
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