I don't like what the Israeli govt is doing. They are wrong to create a racist apartheid society with Palestineans. You are wrong.

@sassygirl3869 do you remember history? Palistian's high jacked airlines, bombed commute busses, childrens parties, nightclubs!

Talk about topic creep, and creep is the correct word. What does your comment have to do with the original topic? Somebody on this site brings up a question about their own life, and you change it to Middle Eastern politics.

Your comment says, "... they suspect ..." and, "...they very often ...." Talk about creating an us versus them, or in your case, us versus they. You can't even bring yourself to use the word.

I think your true self is showing.

@sassygirl3869 I know your views and that several other Jewish people here hold the same view. But I'm not wrong about many holding that contradictory stance.

@Kenn Topic creep is what keeps discussion going and people only complain when they don't like where it's going. My point is that they can still connect at the cultural level (unless, of course, they happen to think what's going on over there is lousy, as sassygirl pointed out). As for 'us and them' that's priceless in the context of Palestine.
And I am always myself!

@brentan No, somebody asked a question, and you bring up something completely off topic. I was just being nice calling it topic creep.

And once again, "My point is that they ...." Who is they? Is there a reason you won't use the word?

And yes, unfortunately, people like you will continue to always be yourself. Yes, butting in and putting your opinions in a completely off topic way. Butting in with your political beliefs where they haven't been asked for. (Since being nice didn't work, I'll try the direct method.)

@Kenn I agree with you. Some people get a mindset of Jews. Same with African-Americans.

@Kenn, @brentan it's got nothing to do with religion. You'd be surprised how many in Israel are more like me! I had Palestinean friends over there.

@benhmiller Yes I do -I had Canadian friends on the first highjacked plane I served with in the Israeli army. We changed our flight and left earlier. The next flight out was hijacked. Bibi is STEALING LAND and INSTITUTING APARTHEID and morally and historically THAT IS WRONG!!!!!!!

@sassygirl3869 you know the only real difference between them is religion get rid of religion they have nothing to fight over!

@benhmiller I agree with you on that front.

@Kenn I'll say again, because you're desperate to deny my point, that I said what a Jewish person might do to communicate with fellow Jews if he or she was not quite a believer. I'm not sure what word you're talking about unless you're unhappy with the use of a pronoun.

@sassygirl3869 Have a good evening.

Thanks for that

@Geoffrey51 )

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You genesis are exactly right. These are the days I miss being part of a Jewish community for the last 20+ years in small southern town

@Movdsouth hence your screen name yes?

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This supposed omnipresent and just entity has apparently ignored genocide and children being raped and murdered by people in their own families, but he did help Karen find her keys last week.

@BufftonBeotch just once my prEyer to the lottery gawd could be answered with the PowerBALL Numbers exactly matching my 3 dollar ticket

actually the kosher rules are NOT religion-based. they got incorporated into judaism because that's how things got codified in the absence of real science, but they were based on astute observation that people who ate pork and shellfish were dropping dead of (what we now know is) trichanosis (pardon my spelling). without science, the best they could do was say god was punishing those people for eating those things. deserts get pretty hot, there was no refrigeration, and those foods can, if not properly stored and prepared, cause that illness. there is no need to follow those rules now as we DO have refrigeration, and theoretically we have the fda looking after us (i wouldn't count too much on that). but kashruth DID get codified and there it is. but i would like to know what the hell that has to do with the high holy days anyway? the question wasn't how to amuse oneself during the high holy days. the question was how to OBSERVE them while being true to one's actual beliefs.

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@genessa I WAS attempting to facetious and having a joke with my reply.

@Triphid i understood that. it didn't work and the reason is that jokes are funny in direct proportion to how hard they hit the truth. since your joke was based on an apparent misreading of the question and an apparent misapprehension of a fact crucial to the joke, it didn't work.

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@genessa good point-Islam has same dietary laws due to lack of refrigeration years ago in the hot Middle East.

Damnit, you got there first. Have you been following me around for the last 30 years?

So being Jewish is much more than a religion it’s a heritage and a tradition that goes back almost 6000 years. Unlike christianity with its definitive rules, even if you believe in the god of the Jews there is no punishment for questioning his or her existence. Before I go any further in this discussion with you personally, I should point out that this site is agnostic.com, not atheist.com

@Movdsouth i don't really care about the stupid "traditions" of any religion, they are all moronic and baseless. I care even less what the site is called, I don't use labels, I just do not believe in bullshit.

i think she already is a secular jew. but maybe she likes the tradition and wants to be able to enjoy it without feeling a conflict with her secularity. i am also an atheist and a jew, and i have responded to the best of my ability (without writing war and peace about it) above.

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ha that is funny. what i have always said, myself, is that most jewish holidays are about this: "they tried to kill us. they failed. we lived. let's eat!"

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@genessa Yes, I've heard that one, too!

@bleurowz me too-its all about the food!

Agree with the others. Food

it does not seem in the least strange to me!

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No guilt, just having a conversation

See above. Thanks.

that is odd. we cannot afford membership (nor would i want membership) in the local shul but they do not turn us away; they know we're poor and they accommodate us. that is what they're SUPPOSED to do.

oddly, i don't think of passover in terms of restrictions, but maybe that is because i don't eat that much bread to start with and i like matza. go figure, right? so to me it's an increased availability of some special things i like to eat.

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@genessa Yes, I would think that that is what they are supposed to do, as well. I applaud your schul!

I have lived places with friendly open armed Jewish communities and some with snobby not so nice, show me your tickets Jewish communities. Hmmmm, sounds the same as goyim and atheist communities.

@Movdsouth yep, just like the rest of humanity! individuals with something important in common and lots of other stuff not in common )

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