@SeaGreenEyez And we will never know unless we elect someone who is counter to tRump. Sorry, I still don't se how not voting can help anyone and can and does actually do irreparable harm. I just received my latest "Free Inquiry" magazine and there was an article on this. Unfortunately, it is too new to have articles downloaded.
BTW, I have a problem with labels. I am centrist on some subjects and progressive on other. I am conservative in that I support some limited capital punishment and I think a lot of others on this site do as well when it comes to a certain person and some of his enablers.

@SeaGreenEyez I am not assuming anything. I am going by reports, history and conversations even here. I understand not everyone likes Biden (it should not be about like or dislike but a political agenda). I have heard many wouldn't vote for Bernie or whoever. Too many people would rather not vote than to vote for someone they don't agree with. This includes progressives, liberals, centrists and (hopefully) ultra-conservatives.

I guess I'm not alone in making assumptions as I read that I don't support things I actually do. Just because I haven't connected the policies I have said many times my feelings on national healthcare. De-funding the police is absolutely necessary and, at one time, I applauded progressives as they (we) are not afraid of tackling things as anti-Zionism. To me one cannot generalize things as progressive, liberal, centrist or even conservative. Again, one cannot stereotype people as strictly following one political movement. We are all mutts politically.