God is not a creation God always was.
but if that's the case why can't we skip a step and say the universe always was

That's one thing I love about the term secular humanist

Winning an argument with an intelegent person is difficult,...winning an argument against someone stupid,or in a ''faith''is impossible

@kodimerlyn LOL, you should see their shocked faces when I tell them that, a) I have read it cover to cover, page by page, word by word, and,
b) that I HAD to read it as part of my studies to gain a ThD ( Doctorate in Theology and Comparative Modern Religions) whilst being a DELCARED atheist and still remaining an Atheist to this day.

@kodimerlyn As my Dad taught me, "If you ever get into a debate/discussion, etc, it is always better to know more about the subject than the person with whom you are debating."
And, trust me, it works wonders against the Faithfools, I often get invited to debate with all kinds of Preachers, etc, and, not boasting in any way, shape nor form, I've only ever been in what you could call a Stalemate situation once in over 50+ debates and that was because the Mediator decided to call 'time.'
I'm pretty certain that on a number of occasions I've actually manage to make more than a few Faithfools start to actually think deeply and questioningly about their beliefs.

@linxminx

You're welcome, darling.

That reminds me of the Chewbacca defense from South Park.

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That's funny, I use the whole thing as a door stop.

Here they are. I didn't remember they were on the same episode:

@OwlInASack They've gotten a few weird calls (although not threatening that I can remember) from England, New Zealand, Australia, and an African nation (I can't remember which), among many others. I've probably spent a few thousand hours watching the show since clips first started showing up on youtube, then live on u-stream, now live on youtube, etc.

But America is weird. I honestly can't say I fully understand it right now. Maybe I never did.

Yes, I've come across christians who think they have a monopoly on ethics. How stupid can they get?!

@Donotbelieve oh, there's nothing mysterious about the way my bowels move. My ex would say the mysterious bit is how I can spend 45 minutes doing it. Apparently "I'm hiding from you" is not the correct answer.

That just makes me think of poor George Michael.🥺

My brother said satan will fuck me in the ass! He a homophobic douche.

Which makes no sense since neither one of you will know....

They use this one often. Believers use my age to try and convince me I had better start believing soon now. Oh, don't we love those Christians.

Hit her with these if you like, No Son of Man may die for another's sins, No one has ever gone up to heaven, There is only One Immortal. yw You and your sons will be here with me

I tell believers that if they die before I do and find out that they have ceased to exist in any form, the least they can do is return to tell me I was right and to apologize. They readily agree ... until they think about it ...

The reply, not all of us have, did you