Are you serious right now? About losing rights by the hand of conservatives? What rights are we talking about? Please enlighten me.

It was Democrats who opposed civil rights for minorities. It is the Democrats who deny unborn chikdren the right to life. Its Democrats who always want to raise taxes and steal from working tax payers to give to those who don't work. Its Democrats who are consistently and constantly trying to abolish the 2nd Amendment. Its the hypocritical Democrats who say they support the 1st Amendment but only do so if you agree with them. I could go on, if you would like....

@ArtemisDivine It was racist Southern Democrats, united with Republicans nationwide, who opposed the Civil Rights Act. It was the Democrats under Lyndon Johnson who actually passed it. This is an incredibly tired Republican talking point. Those same racist Southern democrats went on to convert into the racist Republicans who formed the core of Nixon's "Southern strategy", and they and their descendants largely remain racist Republicans unto this day. Get your history right.

The rest of your post is really unworthy of response, but... "unborn children" are embryos with no conscious brain activity? So, when do they qualify as alive? Get me a scientific (as opposed to religious) consensus as then let's talk about the "right to life". Meanwhile, Democrats will continue to support a progressive income tax and a living wage, so that people who are already born can support their already living children, something Republicans don't seem to care about.

Name me a single gun control law passed during the Obama administration. It's a trick question- there wasn't one. In fact, he signed a law guns to be carried in national parks. [thoughtco.com] Pretty strong steps to abolish the 2nd amendment there, eh?

Yes, it's the hypocritical Democrats who are constantly trying to restrict what we can see on TV and in the movies and on the internet because it's obscene, anti-Christian and un-American. No, wait, that's the Republicans again.

Want to go again? I'm here all week....

@Paul4747 I admit there is debate as to whether there was a party flip between Democrats and Republicans but what I did find was after the civil rights movement some Southern Democrats turned Republican.

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Unborn children are worthy of discussion, sir. They are our future. End of week 5 and beginning of week 6...there is brain activity. At 8 weeks they can feel pain. Fetal heartbeat can be detected as early as 5 1/2 weeks.

[americanpregnancy.org]

Taxes: I don't see myself as a Republican but as a Conservative. There is a difference. But as far as taxes go, how do you think the bullshit the Democrats put into the stimulus bill (that had nothing to with the pandemic) will be funded? How do you think their socialist/communist agenda will be financed....more taxes.

Gun Control: who gives a shit about Obama? I never mentioned him. I was referring to the Democrats agenda to disarm the American people to bring in socialism/communism.

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Link to interesting article about free speech
[nypost.com]

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@ArtemisDivine There's no debate whether many Southern Democrats (the party that hisorically, from the 1800s, opposed Emancipation and supported States Rights, the South, and eventually the right to secede over slavery, leading to the Civil War) flipped to the Republican party 100 years later when the party platforms had reversed and the party of Lincoln somehow became the party of wealthy white people. Again, it's history.

An earthworm can feel pain. All living organisms can feel pain. Amoeba feel pain. It's been claimed, with some dubious studies to back them up, that plants feel pain. Pain is a reflex action to stimuli. That doesn't mean higher brain function, or existence as a human being. If the mother feels that it does, fine. That's up to her. But it's not up to you, and it's not up to me, and it sure as hell isn't up to lawmakers or courts to tell her so.

It's interesting to me that you critique one side's porkbarrel projects, without mentioning, for example, the billions targeted to megacorporations, who have more than enough resources to survive this downturn, without any caveat in return that they maintain their current payroll. For example, Boeing, who donated to Trump's inaugural celebration, are getting billions of dollars. And it won't be the CEOs of these firms who are getting laid off; they have to make the tough decisions like "how many workers should we cut this month?" And I doubt you noticed how deep into debt we went on the Republican tax cuts, which will have to be paid for eventually by- did you guess?- taxes. Not on the rich, though, if the Conservatives have anything to say about it.

Nowhere in your link to the BBC article does any Democrat mention "disarming the American people", nor does anyone mention socialism. Did you read it? There was a proposal for a federal licensing requirement, a proposal for a waiting period, a proposal for an ammunition tax. So a $20 box of ammo would cost $25. Socialism indeed!

I'm not wasting any more time with you. Be healthy and have a nice life.

@ArtemisDivine Those old democrats switch to the republican party in the 60's when the democratic party changed its platform and became more inclusive. The Republicans adopted the southern strategy and the southern democrats switched party because of desegregation. This is not the same democratic party of the 19th and the early 20th century, just as thisvus not the republican party of the 19th and early 20th century. When one party make to many changes to evolve to become more inclusive as the democratic party did in the late 1950's and 1960's, the conservative southern members left and brought their ideas into the republican party that we have today.

@ArtemisDivine When the richest people paid more than 50% of their income in taxes in the 60's and 70's they poverty rate was higher than it is now. I never met or heard of any of them receiving massive checks that was being distributed from the taxes taken from the rich. When Ronald Reagan proposed cutting the top tax rate to 39.5% i still haven't met any poor people who was getting those distributions. When George Bush cut it to 35% there were no distributions to the poor. Now it's 20% and still no distributions to the poor people. They keep telling you that they will take money from the reich and give it to the non working people that refuse to work, but that has never happened. The poverty rate is higher now. Before this pandemic people were working 2 and 3 jobs in order to make it. That is why they kept saying that new jobs are being created. bet you are not a multi millionaire and those tax rate decrease does not affect you at all, and i am sure no money from the rich was ever redistributed to you. However you keep repeating that crap without thinking.

It is so far, but I will not be surprised if we reach Orwell's 1984 while I am alive where we have our own Thought Police like he wrote about.

There is no legal requirement to use good judgement when spouting off in public, as long as it doesn't rise to the level of libel or slander, in which case you could get sued and lose some money. Otherwise, not using good judgement will only cost you maybe a job and the friendship and/or goodwill of others.

@TomMcGiverin Well exactly....isn’t that what happened to her, she lost her job and her political party dropped her because she showed a lack of judgement. Nowhere in the post was it asked whether it was legal or illegal. The fact that it was not illegal makes no difference to whether it was sensible or prudent to say what she did. There are lots of things it may not be illegal to do or say, but they are nevertheless in bad taste and any sensible person would know not to express them. Nobody wants to employ a lawyer who publicly displays a lack of judgement, not to mention a political bias.

@Jetty Thank you. I am always learning. I guess both of our leaders see hair as an expression of freedom.

Here in the US, most states have at-will employment laws and the federal government also does not protect workers from being fired for any reason or no reason at all. So for all practical purposes, most Americans do not have freedom of speech if they depend on an employer for their income.

@Jetty
Thanks, let me put this a different way. If by "retaliation" in wikipedia, the author meant retaliation from the government, then yes, this would be more or less as I understood it in the US. Given that you've cited a case where something that is more or less "retaliation" (or strong consequences) took place twice, both from non-governmental bodies, I think there is some intellectual sloppiness going on here, somewhere. I think it's a general notion here in the US that the government has little or no business in what you say or don't say. I don't think it's as much a general notion in trying to tell a private group whether they must continue to include you if they don't like what you have had to say. I'm not sure where the law stands on employment. Maybe it depends a bit on the fine print of one's contract.

Please note that we are talking about a person wishing a potentially fatal illness on the UK elected leader. There are (from what little I understand) laws in the US as to what one may say or not say in discussing whether one wishes to see potentially dangerous things befall the elected head of state. I don't know the law exactly, but I do think it's against the law to say something that might be interpreted as a threat against the POTUS. I would be very surprised if a person was not thrown out of a political party for something like that, and I'm guessing they could face criminal charges.

As to a seemingly milder version of that such as wishing various types of illness on someone,, I don't know.

By the way, isn't it against the law in the UK to utter various types of disparaging remarks (not even talking about wishing ill upon them) about the Queen?

@Jetty
Yes.
Yes, but men and women are judged differently and women suffer harsher consequences more often.

Your American Constitution ONLY applies to Americans, it does NOT apply to the world NOR the entire Human Race.