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Are Swedes shifting further to the right? I know they’ve accepted a lot of immigrants, but an anti-immigrant party has gained some support. Is it because some immigrants are taking advantage of the welfare state and not contributing enough? They’re not assimilating? Depleted resources? Or none of the above? What do you think?

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altschmerz 9 Nov 6
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I think these topics are always dealt with in a far too superficial manner. For starters the nature of animals dictates to many an energy conserving mode as the most natural, which is far too often referred to as laziness when it comes to human primates. The opposite to this rather natural tendency is often referred to as work. For a long time the prime definers, the lackeys of the domninant classes, made people believe that work is a virtue and that those who refuse to prostitute themselves as parasites.
Physical work can be easily defined as a flow of energy. As far as human activities are concerned this is far more arbitrary. Some people get paid to strip off their clothes, others get paid to put certain clothes on and others get paid to take photos of these processes.
Sports demand the same energetic input whether performed as a leisure activity or a profession.
Heirs of royals are being royally paid just for being royal.
There doesn't appear to be any limit to human activities and a very arbitrary process to qualify some tasks as work just depending on the circumstances. Soldiers get rewarded for bulk killing of fellow humans. However, the same soldiers might get punished when they indulge in freelance killing.
Sex workers perform sex as a job, other have to pay to perform the same job.
Taking advantage of any given circumstances is usually identified as a sign of intelligence. When lawyers find ways to dissimulate income from taxation authorities they are admired.
Bankers are being handsomely rewarded for stealing money from their customers.
Migrants should be rewarded for showing adaptability by taking any advantage they can.
Weird planet - weird primates!

@Closeted well the little taxpayers don't really get a say

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what do you mean when you state that "some migrants are ... not contributing enough"?

@Closeted What is work? If you think about what is labeled work in a modern society, some people who don't are more effective and less harmful to the environment.

@Closeted Are you being serious here? Wondering because "the lazy poor" is such a n obvious way the right blame the victim.

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Totally off topic, but I had to say that I really loved seeing your profile pic of that Queen album (News of the World). i bought that when it came out on vinyl. 😀

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The problem sometimes is the fact that European nations like Sweden are easily been taken advantage of their democratic egalitarian system.. the Muslim immigrants adhere to a different rules, guided mostly by a strict religious principals. they obviously clash with a more libertarian society. The resentment bring out the far right as a political solution..

Eldovis Level 7 Nov 6, 2018

That was an excellent, understandable explanation. Thanks, @Eldovis.

You seem to forget that Europe has countries whose populations are predominantly Muslim. Furthermore Muslim as a generic label is just as meaningless as Christian. There exist profound differences between different "strands" of Islam just as there are a motley mob of sects under the "Christian umbrella" just as there are many junk food outlets.
I witnessed such differences personally since my childhood.

Countries like Sweden who rely on arms deals to finance such social largesse intuitively also know that these deals are part of the problem.

@PontifexMarximus Muslim countries in Europe? which ones?

@powder There was only one region having that problem.. the former Yugoslavia is NOT a Muslim country.. are you kidding me? I have relatives that live there.. I know more than most..

@Eldovis Bosnia-Herzegovina and Turkey. Several European countries have substantial Muslim populations.

@Eldovis Despite having family there your knowledge of former Yugoslavia seems to be somewhat deficient. Former Yugoslavia is now several different countries; Bosnia-Herzegovina being one of them.

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They are waiting for the Swedes to assimilate.

brentan Level 8 Nov 6, 2018
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