Would atheists say that? Or try to?

@yvilletom say what?

@BitFlipper
Would atheists say a god created the universe?

@yvilletom of course not. But evidence is that the universe we perceive began with a single event - god or not.

@BitFlipper Sorry, guy. There’s only imagination. A lot of it. And there are words. Millions of them. There is no evidence.

“...the early universe needed to be extremely hot.”

So the extreme heat appeared. Who or what made it?

How would I know?
Gamow and his students extrapolated from what they knew of nuclei appearance what the conditions likely must have been for it to happen.
That's the knowledge they had and they said so.

That's the process of science -- observations get made and then only after explanations are thought of are the explanations validated.
Jumping ahead to 'explain' things without supporting evidence is unwarranted.
Poorly supported jumping ahead is behavior I expect of religion. Which is a big part of why I'm an atheist.

@yvilletom the heat was generated at the time of the Big Bang..No Who involved..at all..

@RichCC Your description of the process of science omits the required empirical, or laboratory, step. You described what mathematicians do. They do mathematics, not science.
Extrapolation is a jumping ahead process, but it requires a starting trend in the data.

@Charlene You wrote “the heat was generated at the time of th BB.”

What generated it?

@yvilletom the explosion of primordial matter..

@Charlene And what caused the explosion?

@Charlene
All he seems to have is that inane old child's 'why' game that pretty much all adults wrote off many years ago:

Child -- "Daddy, why is the sky blue? "
Daddy -- "..."
Child -- "why?"
Daddy -- "..."
Child -- "why?"
And so on.

It's time to label him a troll and stop feeding him.

And just to anticipate his petulant reply to this observation... Knock yourself out yvilletom, l almost certainly won't respond any more.

@yvilletom I farted..simple

@Charlene Ah-hh-hh.

@RichCC Rich, I wish you success in almost certainly not responding any more.

EdEarl, your ability is considerable but I see a problem in your 4th paragraph. You conclude it with “...appears shadow free.” but omit the exception for the pixels of cameras on telescopes. I don’t do telescopy and you might explain how radio telescopes return light to the pixels of cameras.

At www.thunderbolts.info, in the upper right corner, is a short search bar. You might look for “common misperceptions”, then scroll down the page a bit and read the entire post. Then, on the right at the bottom of the page, you can click and see in turn nine more misperceptions. But will you?

@yvilletom First, the effects of telescopes aren't relevant to the published image of the CMBR. It is a relatively low resolution image compared to those pics taken by a modern optical telescope.

Your question, "how (do) radio telescopes return light to the pixels of cameras," can only be answered, "They do not." The process of making an image from radio telescopes is called Interferometry, which you may read about on Wikipedia. Some mathemagic is done in a computer as it processes a stream of radio telescope data, which creates an image on a screen, printer or plotter. Of course, you may take a picture of that image.

Will I visit thunderbolts? From your post and replies, l'm confident their science is faulty, and they have nothing useful for me. I have no desire to critique the site; it is pointless. Most people who visit anti science sites are unable to understand reality. You, on the other hand, said you attended grad schoolb and liked science. I'm beginning to doubt you. It us obvious you know very little about physics, which is fundamental to all science.

Seriously, Charlene. That’s Misconception #10. Nine misconceptions precede it.

Joplin in Missouri, the “show me” state?

I’ve read it too. The lack of shadows on the sky says the radiation is coming from our side of the sky.

The evidence and some thinking will SHOW YOU where the flimflam is.

I like your pic. “I think, therefore I’m an atheist.”