That's why I don't drink it. It's so common.

Your source says: "The history of coffee dates back to the 15th century, and possibly earlier with a number of reports and legends surrounding its first use.

@WonderWartHog99 Please quote evidence of it use in the middle east 3000 years ago.

@FrayedBear I cited your own source. It refers to less than clear "report and legends."

Gee, you did read your own source?

@FrayedBear, @WonderWartHog99
9th century is as far back as it was known to have been discovered in Ethiopia... A Goatherd notice his animals reacted strongly to the berries of a small tree and they started with just the juice of those berries then after cooking the beans found them to have the same effect and even started making a beverage from them later on. There are legends of a Sultan using it earlier but the climate he lived in was actually unsuitable for growing coffee...

@Lizard_of_Ahaz >but the climate he lived in was actually unsuitable for growing coffee...

So like the current residents of New Hampshire, he had to import it. Sailing ships predate the reported birth of God. If you're a sultan, you can afford the imported stuff.

In the meantime, I'm looking for Californian escargot.

@WonderWartHog99 Yet it wasn't discovered until much later and there is no actual documentation of this or any evidence at all...

@Lizard_of_Ahaz What say documentation better than legends and unclear reports?

@WonderWartHog99 Which bible is used in the meme?

@FrayedBear The big door stopper tome with the leather backing and the "lost" books used by Catholics but not the Gospel According to Judas.

Just driving up on mountain roads, an experience unknown to Aussies who live in the flat lands.

@WonderWartHog99 In the main, though Mt Kosciuszko is over7000 feet in height, Australia is very low lying & flat. [quora.com]

@FrayedBear Ever been to that mountain? Reached the fearsome summit? Went camping anywhere near it? Took pictures?

From the sound of it there are no mountain ranges down under, ergo no long mountain drives.

For serious elevation is in the western US, i.e. the Rockies which start at 10,000 feet and go up to 14,000 feet. Mountains in the eastern US are rather old, rounded and wimpy.

Pictured: having reached the summit, I had my picture taken. Then I turned around and took a picture of the view from the observation tower.

@WonderWartHog99 Kossi? On numerous occasions. As you say it is an uninspiring mountain as you only see it from a fairly high elevation and like your view of the surounding tree clad countryside is not awesome.
A journey that I undertook last year, although not a very long trip(about 400 klms), was through the Great Dividing range which runs for several thousand kilometres through Australia's east coast. The trip afforded about half dozen very pleasant views.
Here are some recent photos from around the Grampians, about an hour's drive from me. The last photo is taken from a lookout that is only just over a thousand feet high.

@WonderWartHog99 Thank you for provoking inme the memory of my parents who for fifty years regularly (20+x per year) visited the English Lakes District to walk its hills and valleys. That area is only about 50miles across. When they died there were still places that they had not intimately explored.
Walt are you like a rubber necking Yank who does a ten day bus trip of Europe & then claims to have seen it all?
Here is a link to a pair of ignorant Australian rubber-neck bloggers visiting the area (though their locations visited & sequance identifies their inability to navigate or correctly log what they have done). I'm amazed that they were let out of Aradale! [rustyramblers.com]

@FrayedBear >Walt are you like a rubber necking Yank who does a ten day bus trip of Europe & then claims to have seen it all?

I'm the guy walks himself until he's bandaging his blisters and complaining he hasn't seen it all. Send me back to Paris! I didn't see their modern art museum, the Pompidou Center. Petunia complains she didn't see a few hundred acres of tulips just outside of Amsterdam. She complained she hadn't visited the street of Three Sisters in Amsterdam. It's a trendy shopping district. We should have rented an apartment in both cities for a few months to have seen it all. Later a French teacher told me a person could live in Paris for ten years and not see it all. She has been visiting that city for over 40 years and hasn't seen it all.

My out of town visits have all the planning of a military attack. Before I get there (unlike your recommended travel blog) I want to know when they're open and when they are closed, best time to visit, etc. Do I get to see it all? Hell, no. There's too much of it.

>When they died there were still places that they had not intimately explored.

I can believe it. One reason I moved to the Appalachians was for their mountain trails and visits to their waterfalls. Most of the trails are poorly marked and I can tell you the joys of getting lost. Ergo, I haven't visited half the waterfalls within a 50 mile radius of where I live. Those mountains block GPS signals. I'll be wandering in those mountains and realize I don't know where I am because of overgrown trails.

I'll never see all the waterfalls here.

Hey, remind me to tell you why I took a naval course on marine navigation some time. A person can travel with no landmarks and still get back home. The local news is full of stories of people lost in the woods, some of which are never seen again.

>The last photo is taken from a lookout that is only just over a thousand feet high.

The qualification for "mountain" is when the elevation is slightly over a thousand feet. Otherwise it's pawned off as "mount" something. The locals here call it a knob. When I was in Florida, I kept running across places with NO vast scenic views although they called places "mounts" as if they were mountains. Florida is extremely flat, no mountains at all so they have to lie about it. They do have hills.

Thanks for the pictures. You won't admit to spending a night in a tent.

@WonderWartHog99 night in a tent -not for a long time! It is only last year that I got a leg back to walk on after 16 years of being on 2½ legs. . .one an aluminium stick.

@FrayedBear Two years ago I went tent camping while leaning on a five foot long highly varnished wooden hiking staff. Because it had carving on it, I got complements on it. Cost me all of six dollars. Previous staffs were branches that fell out of the trees. Most carved hiking staffs run between $30 to $40.

Aluminum? That's fancy Dan stuff!

Side story: because of staggering long list of health problems if I fall, I need help getting up. Throwing an air mattress on the ground is out of the question. Petunia bought me a cot. Back then she insisted on getting out of town for a three day weekend. Long hikes have become out of the question for me.

Hey, I got this five foot long wooden hiking staff and tales to tell.

@WonderWartHog99 Courtesy of a hit & run motorists I had a crushed knee, bone on bone for 16 years. Now like my shoulder I have a shiny glow in the xray prosthetic joint.

@FrayedBear You would have recovered faster with a nagging wife with a yen to travel.

Petunia keeps saying "Cuba? You don't want to go to Cuba."

@WonderWartHog99 No I would be wearing a wooden overcoat.

@WonderWartHog99 Are you nagging Petunia to assiduously exercise on her kegel machine?
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@FrayedBear I have no clue how Cuba and Kegel exercises are related nor what you mean by a "wooden overcoat."

This morning Petunia was looking a one way transatlantic cruise to Portugal, muttering "Only $1,500." She wouldn't consider coming back to the states by way of tramp steamer. Considering how Trump is shooting ill considered comments at our allies, we might not be able to get a visa.

@WonderWartHog99 You wrote Cuba up not I.

In fact I do not use the word "Cuba" until now. Are you or Petunia dyslexic & having problems with my use of the vernacular "Kossi" for Australia's highest mountain "Kosciuszko"?

A wooden overcoat is a coffin to possibly be worn if the corpse is found and it was the intention to be buried in one.

Re cruise to Portugal I'm going to make another necrophylliac homosexual happy & LMAO.

@FrayedBear "Wooden overcoat" is not a known phrase in the states.

You plan to visit Portugal to make a "necrophylliac homosexual happy"? You're whipping out those non-sequitur all over the place.

She has been blissfully ignorant of mountains in Australia because I don't tell her about our conversations. What I said is she loves travel as long as she picks where we're going. I mentioned Cuba as place I want to visit but she doesn't.

You appear to be hung up on ''"necrophylliac homosexuals."

" . . . . & LMAO." Uh, Licking Murphy's Ass Off?" On second thought, don't tell me.

@WonderWartHog99 I have no plan to go to Portugal. You mention Petunia suggesting holidaying in Portugal.

@FrayedBear >I have no plan to go to Portugal.

Contrasted with:

>Re cruise to Portugal I'm going to make another necrophylliac homosexual happy

Imagine my confusion.

@WonderWartHog99 Aha identifying that you and possibly Petunia do not see the trip as an holiday but an incarceration in a tin prison precluding disembarking at the destination and thus just a source of seasickness & imprisonment.
I also note that you lengthily corresponded at "Put to good use?
" on the definition of Laugh My Ass Off and my homosexual necrophiliac meme. "Imagine my confusion" - Do I conclude that Alzheimer's is taking its toll?

@FrayedBear Are you one of those Aussies still emotionally in the fourth grade?

@WonderWartHog99 Making another homosexual necrophiliac happy & LMAO -
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@WonderWartHog99 hmmm, doctor & fu are reasonable but I don't collect them - LMAO gif I had to search for on the net - it took several enquiries.

@FrayedBear I typed "LMAO meme" into my search engine and got about 100 examples on the first try. Evil fart that I am, I know how that "add photo" icon works.

@WonderWartHog99 I wanted the one that I shared.