Morality ??? Really spike ?? There is a morality issue on this ??

@Pralina1 Yes. Is it moral to ban someone for expressing views that some may perceive to be "hate speech"? That's the real question that should be asked. I certainly don't think it's a First Amendment issue here. With that said, personally I don't care either way, the amount of time those on the left and right are wasting on that topic is anything short of appalling to me. If I ever feel slighted by a social media platform, I simply delete my account and move on to another, just don't see the sense in complaining about it.

This is a better morality issue

@SpikeTalon they did not express views . They expressed gasoline on a fire , and rallied the less fortunate brain ways to do their dirty job . In high hopes that trump can remain in power . And therefore , no prison .
Nobody wants that blood on their hands . Or that Shame . It’s simple .
When nfl and nba players took a knee , I did not see any motherf of the right standing w them . 0 .
They were calling for their heads , they were calling to be banned from PRIVATE organizations , bcz “ unpatriotic “. My ass . But whatever . I dident see anyone going out saying , that’s private buisness , that’s immoral , or any as such .

@Pralina1 In reality, no one has a right to either. Twitter may be free to use, but you have to deal with ads then. As for healthcare, that's considered a service, a paid-for service that is. I have a chronic condition that at times can be costly to maintain, but that is my problem though and no else should have to pay for my problem(s). That's called self-responsibility. Affordable healthcare is another topic altogether, and neither the Democrats or Republicans have done much about that issue.

@SpikeTalon man . Insulin is expensive . Testing is expensive . Keeping up w precaution tests and checks is expensive .
Shouldn’t be only YOUR PROBLEM . Should be mine too .
If u can’t afford your insulin , shit happens u know , u can have two f jobs and two kids that suck your blood and money let’s say , and if u can’t afford your care , it’s my problem too .
I don’t want u to drive and have a hypo episode and kill self or anyone ! I want my taxes to go where is important and in good use . Health services for all humans is not a damn priveledge . Should be a right ! Man . I am gonna stop . That’s so sad .

@Pralina1 I'm not taking sides there, and I have openly condemned the riots at the Capitol on January sixth, as well as the rioting last summer connected to ANTIFA and BLM. What you mentioned in your last comment to me equates to a form of bias, depending on what political side you favor you will probably be inclined to take sides against the one you do not generally side with. I think both extremes are absurd and only helping to further the divide more. Regarding some athletes kneeling before sporting events, keep in mind the people who paid for tickets to said events did so with the intent on actually watching sports and not someone making a political statement, keep sports and politics separate. Of course, being I don't care for sports much, that whole debacle over athletes taking a knee didn't concern me much, I largely ignored that.

@Pralina1 You said the obvious, I know how expensive such medications and supplies are. Affordable care and a right to healthcare are two different things, and neither major political party has done much of anything to make healthcare more affordable. If you truly believe healthcare is a right, then I truly hope you are not making any money off of what you do for a living then? If the goal is to make healthcare an actual right, then we need to start with the doctors and nurses and other healthcare practitioners, they should all offer their services free of charge then. You and I both know however that will not be the case anytime soon, and you along with all the other healthcare providers should be compensated for your time and effort. Instead of focusing on making it a right, the focus should be on making it more affordable, as once it's affordable to all then making it a right would not be as important. The cost is the issue there, and not whether it should be a right or not.

@SpikeTalon I can take a pay cut if that means my country will provide affordable health care for all .
Doctors , I don’t know . They went to school for 10 yrs , I went for 6. Most ER hospitalist will work 10 yrs to pay off student loans . R u throwing free education to it ?
Nobody works for free spike . No doctor in countries that national health care is in place works for free . Don’t have to .
We are not barking to take your money . We r barking to make insurance an option , not the only option .
Your government should provide u w the basics plus preventive care and check ups for free / low cost . Nobody should worry if they can stretch their bp meds one more month bcz of cost . That’s how strokes happen .
And guess who is eating that stroke Bill at the end .
Nobody should see blood in the toilet and fear the cost / copayment of colonoscopy . Man . Really .
Who cares if we have stations at space ... healthy citizens are productive citizens and happy citizens .
If my taxes can’t support health and education for all , then I don’t know y I am paying taxes
Let me go . We had that argument b4 u and I . It doesn’t matter .
I made a lot of money spike this year . Too much it’s embarrassing . Disease sells . Who knew . U know y ? There are no critical care nurses left . U know y? Total cost for a bsn and a ms , up to 75k on these days I was told by the youngest . Nobody got that money or want to be on debt .
We have no doctors and we have no nurses . Be greatful that the patels and the Ramirez , and the Hassans , and the fratellis are still coming in this country to escape their nightmares , and go to med schools and nursing schools .
Occationally the blacks who were able to get an associates and work the rest online . Those are the majority of your nurses and docs today .
I am done . Stay healthy . Eat right . Diabetes is not a joke . Check your feet daily . Your eyes twice a year . Take your meds . Keep snacks ALWAYS and everywhere around u .
Peace out

@Pralina1 I don't expect anyone to work for free, and that was my point, making healthcare an actual right will not solve the problem, the focus should be shifted to finding ways to make healthcare more affordable for all. I'm not opposed to a Government funded health plan, just so long as such a plan remains a choice and is not forced on anyone. On the taxes part, maybe we need to come up with a more viable solution to the problem than just more taxes? Apparently, the system in place currently is not doing not enough (system meaning taxpayer funded programs, people are still suffering despite the social welfare programs already in place). If you think you made too much money for just doing your job that you are embarrassed by it, then maybe ask for a pay cut from your boss? If you aren't willing to do that, then I'm not quite convinced you are embarrassed from it.

We have no Doctors and nurses you say? That sure isn't the case near me, my local health network has a load of healthcare professionals that work in a huge medical complex. Becoming a physician usually means making a decent living, so I'm not too worried about there being a lack of those going into that field, and those coming from other countries to be physicians do so as they know where the money is at.

Okie dokie, thanks and take care.

@SpikeTalon u shared your opinion about abortions . U did not rally people to go get one . U did not make them believe that if they don’t get one , horrible things will happen to them and their country . That’s that .
We have nurses . We don’t have high tech / critical care nurses . Big difference .
Convincing nobody , not the goal . It is quiet embarrassing for some of us who worked w a new disease to know that we made a lots of $$$ while r favorite restaurants lost their jobs , r favorite local spots closed for ever , and r grocery store workers made no money more than usual but were exposed daily to same possibilities as we . And no gear / suits for them .

I don’t have a boss . I work for my self under the hospital umbrella / policies . I don’t have to work more than 8 shifts a month if I don’t want to . I can stay home . I did and I do bcz is the right thing to do on time of crisis . There were no extra money . ( as they shouldn’t ). There is 80 hrs a week , every week bcz of great need and not enough nurses to manage vents etc . Labor law have to pay me overtime . Getting my body to work every day was my law . My decision .

@Pralina1 So in other words you think it was wrong of FireChat to censor me then?

@SpikeTalon yes .

In other news , I just finished reading same post at slug , all comments , then I ventured to research Parler and minds and owners and ceos . Parler ceo is for the birds .
I stoped after reading his efforts to promote no masking w covid . I am done . U won’t understand a word I am saying . And that’s fine .

@Pralina1 Good to hear you think that was wrong of FireChat to censor me like that, and I can assure you that I did not push women to get abortions, only tried to make a case for why such procedures should be kept legal was all.

Thought you said you could not access SLUG due to a firewall or something? You make an account on there or just browse the site? Personally I do not care for alternative sites like Parler or GAB, too many whack jobs on those platforms. I do like Minds though, as the creators of Minds are working on allowing content creators to monetize their efforts, and I have contributed cyber security/technology etc posts on there that received quite a bit of feedback from fellow members. It's not just about politics on Minds, and I like that.

@SpikeTalon I couldn’t access at work . I can access from home on my phone . I do not have accounts . Trolling , no time for that . Same reason I don’t have accounts on christian loving sites . What’s the point . I am not a Christian and I am not a conservative .
I have nothing else to say in the future on this admins posts .
I ve seen all I need to see . I do wonder AGAIN at this point , y he maintains this site here , a site full of people like me , and once again I ll have to evaluate how safe I am here .

This

@Admin well . I am sure big companies are not out there having as # 1 priority how to protect or inform people . Nah . Money talks . First , and always .
What ve learned in this election is that 70 plus millions of humans in this country still thinks that trump walks on water , or , he might not , but at least he serves their rest of their agenda well . Sure and no doubt , priorities here !

Point is , in my little non buisness head , do u think Amazon wants to lose money ( and other perks ) from 70 million humans without reason ? Do u think ceo woke up one day and gave a damn about humanity , violence , misinformation ? No .
Simply the right has showing their buttocks too much and their colors too much , to the point that not taking a stand or been silent or allowing them grounds to continue puts your company in the shit bucket . Identify w garbage , allowing garbage to smell in your house , makes u look like garbage too .
And I am pretty sure they took that decision not as agnostics of this topic . I am sure they have what they need to justify .
That’s my opinion . No research done of my behalf .

@Admin How can one be "agnostic' in regards to an event or ANY event for that matter since the meaning of the word 'agnostic' differs technically from the subject to which you have applied it?
One can be either "incensed, angered, irate, annoyed, etc, etc, or even ambivalent, unperturbed, etc, etc, in regards to an event/ events but, imo, the word 'agnostic' does not, technically and grammatically either fit in nor apply in this instance.

@Admin ONE of them can put folks in jail.

Thank you! They broke the rules under which they had agreed.

Oh . Good to know . What a delightful and shitty surprise .
Wow !

@Admin in other words youre biased. Got it. We kinda knew that.

@Admin and heres your evidence. Literally took me a minute and a half to find it.

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Thank u . Wow .

100% true, sad, but still 100% true.

@Admin humanity and reality has a liberal bias .
To who should we apologize about that ?
Acceptable = no harm to others , at the very least .

@Pralina1 'reality' is two wolves and one sheep deciding on 'what's for dinner'

@Admin I don't won't ever use FB/twitter/WhatsApp

Like you starting Humanist/Agnostic/Slug forums, others can start their own platforms.

"decide what is acceptable speech" -- How do YOU feel about the possible changing of Section 230 ?

@Admin So I assume you are also perfectly comfortable with how a handful of media conglomerates own over 90% of all the mass media (newspapers, radio, and TV stations), which all have a pro-corporate, anti-labor, bias in favor of the ruling class and a clear hatred of any groups which are for economic equality? That kind of imbalance and monopoly are ok? Just checking.....Since they are all private companies, they can do what they want, etc. I am not ok with that status quo, but the only way it can be reformed is thru govt. regulation, which I doubt you are ok with, even tho I certainly am... We still have anti- trust laws on the books, it's just that with two corrupt, corporate-owned major parties, they never get enforced anymore....

@Admin "one person"....on what planet have you been vacationing?

John Matze the ceo of parler has announced it could leave the site unavailable for up to a week while they change servers.

@Admin Trump got more media coverage than any politician or personality in the history of media. Hardly a single day in the past 5 years went by, without Trump being on the news for some reason or other and I live in the UK.
I suggest you watch "Death to 2020" on Netflix. In it, a comic version of Kellyanne Conway played by Lisa Kudrow talks about how conservative voices are being silenced, "I've said it again and again how conservative voices are being silenced. I said on CNN, on ABC, Newsmax, I said it twice on fox and in my bestselling book "How conservative voices are being silenced".

@Admin The last four years is a result of Trump and the Republican Party, who have been doing this for years, playing to the stupid with unwarranted fears and the stupid being stupid, buying into it. This is not complicated.

@Admin There is no helping these people, it was trump himself who continuously lied to his supporters for the past four years and they believed him. It's his fault they feel the way they do. He needs to fix it but we all know he's not, I just see him making it worse, so that's a very good thing of all these social media platforms banning him.

@Admin

Do you have a suggestion to help Trump supporters feel that their guy got a fair deal these past four years?

How can you convince someone something is true who doesn't believe in truth or facts to begin with? You can't. That's like convincing someone they were dreaming before they've woken up. For years they have been the party of "alternative facts" and "your logic", denying science and objective reality. It is not our job to make them feel better about the lies they were told that didn't pan out.

@Admin I think you missed your calling. Suggesting that it is our responsibility to "help Trump supporters feel that their guy got a fair deal these last four years" is pure comedy gold!