'Complete Joke': Democrats Ripped for Totally Failing to Grill FCC Chair Ajit Pai Over Net ...

Christiep77 comments on Aug 18, 2018:

With all youve said here I still can’t get past how any member of the Democratic Party was ok with how the Primary went down. Then all the other stuff but frankly, Im not even there yet because Im still flabbergasted over that. I understand they are a private organization and can make the rules ...

William_Mary replies on Aug 18, 2018:

That is the question of the election! And I would argue narrative is the culprit. Along with identity politics and heroism/idolism politics as a close second. Which really can all lead right back to narrative. With that said, how many of those people were willing to over look all the Clinton atrocities from the past to get, the first woman president elected? I have a list of them that did absolutely little good during the primary cycle. But as you put that, I ask the same for those that support the republicans. Who are infamous for voter purging in their own right. In which Greg Palast has been covering for several years. And how they do it. The question we all should be asking is why neither establishment party is combating the other over their tactics of purging qualified voters and the shenanigans used to deny us a legal election. We've known that the republicans, thanks to Greg Palast, use a list of similar names to purge voters. Yet the democratic party has never challenged this. And with all the attempts of the republicans to bring a Clinton down haven't batted an eye at that primary cycle. Which I would argue hands them a perfect opportunity to want a legitimate inquiry. I would also argue the reason neither wants to rock this boat would be that it would lead to calls for a better election process. Such as the one in Venezuela where they received very high standard reports from the international election community. Our election process is one that servers the oligarchy, it's not meant to serve us a fair election. This process guarantees the reelection of establishment politicians serving them which controls the amount of those who will attempt to initiate any type of real change.

Trump-Media Logrolling [consortiumnews.

DenoPenno comments on Aug 16, 2018:

Sometimes it seems as if the media that you do get back and forth is only something to catch your eyes and sell newspapers or make you read the stuff regardless of format. Reporting has turned into the selling of stories. One old saying is yet true. If you wanna know what is going on just follow the...

William_Mary replies on Aug 18, 2018:

@DenoPenno with all due respect Deno, you seem to be locked in that hate Trump mode they want you in. I despise Trump as much as any other person can. I made my arguments against him during the primary voicing it was a charade to get him elected, and he was. You can thank the media, Clinton, and the DNC structured plan towards their supposed strategy for that. That's all on record and you can thank WIkiLeaks for that. But he's there now. First thing is to get over that and see what's going on around him. I'm sure they're scared to death to let him in a room alone with Mueller! You mentioned some of the obvious reasons. He has no control when his mouth opens. It seems to me you have forgotten what this special investigation was about. It wasn't about money laundering or off shoe accounts. Or how Gates pinched the till of Manafort's workings. Those are issues the DOJ and congressional courts should have been on top of as these people were brought into Trumps administration. It wasn't about Flynn's ability to make money in Russia doing speeches and so on. Although that might raise an eyebrow, that was also the responsibility of the DOJ and congressional hearings when he was added to the administration to look into. In which they did and he was then fired for leaving out some information. Late in the game, but done. None of which was tied to the original Russian interference. You, like myself, should be asking yourself, why isn't this investigation doing what it was suppose to be doing. For 2 years now all we have gotten is a dozen people or so who ran a click bait shop in St. Petersburg Russia that spent some where around $100,000 on adds at Facebook that had no influence on the election. And when Mueller took that in front of a congressional hearing got his ass handed to him. Because he didn't expect them to show up to answer the indictment. And when their lawyers ask for copies of the evidence Mueller went into panic mode. Bringing up the click bait shop on indictments was merely a way for him to add a false narrative to Russian collusion to spice up what he hasn't been able to put anything real on. And it backfired on him. The one thing Russian in this entire quagmire is no longer a story. That should be a grave concern and loudly questioned. Quite frankly, everything Mueller has at this point should be handed over to the DOJ and an end put to this special investigation and the waste of tax payer money going towards it! Let the DOJ do the job they should have been doing all along.

Trump-Media Logrolling [consortiumnews.

DenoPenno comments on Aug 16, 2018:

Sometimes it seems as if the media that you do get back and forth is only something to catch your eyes and sell newspapers or make you read the stuff regardless of format. Reporting has turned into the selling of stories. One old saying is yet true. If you wanna know what is going on just follow the...

William_Mary replies on Aug 17, 2018:

@DenoPenno what charges Deno? Give me one example of any charges in relationship to election tampering or of having hacked the DNC data base. Even the earliest indictments of the click bait shop was problematic when Mueller took it before a hearing. There have been no charges or indictments that are related to the issue that was first brought up. Mueller is essentially doing the DOJs job. Not the special investigation he was hired for. As for Clinton, they have been purposely pushing the truth of how they conducted the primary under a rug to avoid the damage of losing supporters. There's a long list of issues I don't have time right now to go into being I'm at work. And they are purposely keeping them out of the main stream media for the benefit of both parties.

Trump-Media Logrolling [consortiumnews.

DenoPenno comments on Aug 16, 2018:

Sometimes it seems as if the media that you do get back and forth is only something to catch your eyes and sell newspapers or make you read the stuff regardless of format. Reporting has turned into the selling of stories. One old saying is yet true. If you wanna know what is going on just follow the...

William_Mary replies on Aug 16, 2018:

Yes, catchy headlines for eye candy. That's part of our problem. To many people don't take the time to actually read much, if any, of an article. And then think they know the whole story from that headline. And the main stream media knows this now. They can condition people to a certain reaction pattern with repetitive coverage of the same issue. They just have to change a few words from day to day. The false Russian narrative is a prime example. I will argue most people don't even read much, if any, of an article on that issue today. And think they are updated to the reality of it by that headline alone. First they planted the seed after the election. If they went through a complete article then, most likely down to just the headlines now. So those of us trying to get the results of a real journalist' work out now, being time was needed for the whole truth, there's no interest in learning. Which is why it is so easy for the main stream media to still today claim it was a hack, when we have more evidence it was actually a leak from within the DNC. When it comes to TV, they just repeat and repeat each night drilling it in to form an illusion.

Please some one get me out of Tennessee.

William_Mary comments on Aug 15, 2018:

As an OTR driver a few years back, Tennessee was always quite entertaining on the CB. I feel for you!

William_Mary replies on Aug 16, 2018:

@KateZilla I never really had a handle. That seems to be mostly a thing for the past. Or what we always got from TV like on Smokey and the Bandit was mere urban legend folk lore. Now as a local driver we call each other by our names if we know them that well. Other than that it's what ever company name is on the truck. Believe me, the first thing I learned in trucking when I hit the road was that the brotherhood of truckers was just like any other brotherhood. None existent.

Is this not proof that our president is a Monster ?

Christiep77 comments on Aug 15, 2018:

Ummm Saudi Arabia And the US are allies. This arms deal actually was approved during the Obama Administration

William_Mary replies on Aug 15, 2018:

@Scottzillyun a man has to know his limits! And you reached yours long ago. She doesn't have the facts right and she obviously isn't willing to learn. Leaving her totally complacent within the main stream medias managed perceptual illusion. Based on the 2 establishment political party supporters, most are not willing to even except that their country is allied with a country as one of the most human rights abusers known. Trump supporters will justify this by any means. Labeling him as a monster was also a mistake. A political divide mistake. The whole approach to this issue was of a poor judgment error. We are 15 years from a war in Iraq that was based on lies in which nearly 5000 US soldiers lost their lives, and not one family has raised an eyebrow to their loss, demanding answers. Despite all the evidence from the likes of Wesley Clark and great independent journalism, like TRNN above, most of the population of the US has become numb to the actions of our CIA and the chaos abroad the military finishes for them. And that the media keeps them uninformed from. They can't even begin to fathom how we are being moved towards a fascist nationalized country as is also going on in Europe today. In which both our establishment parties are part of.

Sorry, mass shoot today.

DenoPenno comments on Aug 12, 2018:

I'm still amazed by the ones who claim it was Hillary who did the Russian meddling. They want you to somehow believe that she needed to get dirt on Donald Trump so badly that she ended up destroying her own campaign. I watched the debates. The buffoon really seemed like a threat didn't he?

William_Mary replies on Aug 13, 2018:

Every bit the same threat as Hillary herself. Trump being elected was merely the ability for our corrupt politicians to move the country to the right substantially. Towards a nationalist fascist state of being. Which has been the republicans goal for several decades in an effort to do away with any sense of FDR's sense of socialism. Any sense of accomplishments towards human rights, African American rights, women's rights, workers rights, the EPA, unions, and programs for the lower class and those in poverty, from a short list of presidents there after. This same agenda is being introduced in much of Europe today also.The introduction of neoliberial politics and free trade agreements by Bill Clinton has merely been an agenda to support them and the same corporate interest who want the country to go in that direction. With the country under the control of either party the corporate hoard and most wealthy always remain the winner. Just more so from under the republican mask. The slower bleeding while the democrats are of majority is merely a roost to the collaboration. The whole Russian narrative is a mask to cover the crimes of both parties. Neither will complain about the others involvement in various election tampering activities. In which 2016 was riddled with. Which should serve the public a overwhelming evidence of collaboration. Or the relationship between the Clinton's and the Trump's. In which Hillary and Donald are related and have been family friends for decades. The entire actions of the DNC have been swept under the rug and rarely talked about. If it is it's only within independent journalism that is mainly kept out of the main stream media. Same with the purging list the republicans use to quell votes that would most likely go towards democrats. Yet they(democrats) don't have a complaint? A tactic the democrats used in 2016 to quell votes they knew would go towards Sanders. Yet the republicans didn't complain? Not one word from either party during the 2016 election cycle on behave of the people and their fundamental right to a fair election process! We instead get a Russian Broom.

Ohio, near by?

Uncorrugated comments on Aug 11, 2018:

Not in Ohio, or even in the States, so please excuse my ignorance - what is a Poker run?

William_Mary replies on Aug 12, 2018:

A poker run is where bikers gather at a given place, sign in pay and join various drawings. You then leave at a assigned time, ride, to another assigned place according to a designed route. This can be done in your own group of friends that you're with or it can be done with the entire collective of participants, depending on the host preferences. When you reach stop 1 everyone draws a card. This goes 3 more stops through the day until you get back to the starting point or the last stop. Again according to the host preferences. Of course the one with the highest hand at the end of the day wins. At this point you're having a cheap dinner, usually hot dogs and or maybe burgers while the drawings are taking place. 50/50's, door prizes donated by sponsors, etc. This particular poker run, for $5 a ticket, gives away a bike at the end of the day. This year it's a road king. This particular poker run will donate proceeds to 12 charities. This particular poker run has a tendency to draw in a few to several hundred people. Some poker runs, usually quite smaller, are held for an individual someone knows that is going through hard times or a family that has had someone recently passed away. In which in that case, some are a yearly event in their name in which the proceeds and donations go to the cause of certain deaths like cancer that they may have died from. We have many through the year that are specifically for kids in various aspects. Certain types of illness they have or had, money donated to a foundation of that effect. Various Veterans causes is another popular one. Bikers giving back to our communities in a socialized effort to help others!

Can Maryland be at the forefront of Third Party Organizing? [therealnews.com]

GreatNani comments on Aug 11, 2018:

Are you thinking this because of the success of Hogan?

William_Mary replies on Aug 11, 2018:

No, just want people to see and hear reasons to consider why the Green Party can be and should be an alternative option to a 2 party platform that doesn't govern. His want to inject the public in decision making will not be tolerated by those 2 parties. How have the recent town hall meetings gone with our establishment politicians when confronted with real issues they didn't want to hear? Or tried to point talk their way through. Arrest and being dragged out by police doesn't cut it!

We are Not These Colors [ghionjournal.

GreatNani comments on Aug 10, 2018:

Would you elaborate on This? What makes you believe you are a racist?

William_Mary replies on Aug 10, 2018:

I believe it is a part of our nature to question what we see in others. You can't deny the cultural differences we observe in other races and not question or ponder the relativity it/ they defer from your own. I learned that in grade school. Also where I learned the N word. Which when I asked what a N is I walked away as confused as when I asked. I'm living evidence racism is taught. Having went to grade school on a dominantly African American side of town I could see and feel the difference in socializing between whites and African Americans. And the difference I got from them one on one compared to when they were together alone. Essentially 2 completely different worlds. I really can't explain any better than I did above. My opinion is that we all have some degree of racism in us. It's what we do with it that makes us good individuals. To a point we all can share life together without the hate I see being purposely bombarded on us.

Ten Things That Are More Selfish, Stupid And Privileged Than Voting Green Party ...

JanGarber comments on Aug 8, 2018:

In a two party nation, it is like not voting.

William_Mary replies on Aug 9, 2018:

Exactly! Because you're essentially not voting within that 2 party system. You're voting in a system both parties have rigged. In 2016 the republicans again used a list and purged as many same name participants that would tend to go towards the progressive side. And made laws that make it harder for that same leaning type of lower class and those in poverty trending people to vote at all. And the democrats did the same in Sanders leaning areas while also rigging the caucuses without enough applications and sending people out with improper information and provisional ballots that would never be counted. Also rejecting Sanders surrogates from backroom meetings and participation in other aspects. Also using the media to limit Sanders exposure and hype up Trump. We got just what they wanted us to get. A fake election to hide behind a fake economy fake unemployment numbers and fake market readings. A fake media that doesn't let you know what's really going on around the world ruining our reputation. I'm glad to see you get it! Enjoy your retirement. Be glad you will not be here long enough to live through the results of a failing capitalist neoliberial scam.

Have some fun with this one also. [msm.rt.com]

OldGoat43 comments on Aug 4, 2018:

There is a lot to learn on that website. Thanks.

William_Mary replies on Aug 4, 2018:

You're welcome. I also learned after I posted this, if you click on "all media" in the upper right hand corner you can by pass all the bubble crap and get all sources on the same page. Much easier!

They Work To Manufacture Consent Because They Need It.

Paul4747 comments on Aug 3, 2018:

Nope. She lost me at "and the secretive government agencies with which they are allied" *Nothing*, and I mean *nothing*, in Washington stays a secret. Clinton couldn't even get a hummer from an intern without the world finding out. Anything scandalous that 3 people know, will be on the front ...

William_Mary replies on Aug 4, 2018:

Nice, out of context, you have there.

The Absurdity of Saying “White Privilege” [ghionjournal.com]

gigihein comments on Aug 1, 2018:

What an eye opening article for me. I have always been incensed when friends have disagreed that white privilege exists. I never looked at my view as dividing, though had plenty of evidence it did in my own social network. Teodore Fikre's work has resonated with me a few times as you have shared it ...

William_Mary replies on Aug 1, 2018:

Not my president has still found a use, only by the other side. And lets not forget Hillary had choice words for all of us at one of her speeches to the oligarchs during that election cycle. I've only been following Fikre for about a year, but have found his work to be quite resonant. If only some of those within the oligarchs had also gone from the top to bottom as Fikre has, we might be looking at a completely different world.

Fox & Friends Poll Designed to Discredit Medicare for All Explodes in Their Face ...

phxbillcee comments on Aug 1, 2018:

Too bad there is no viable alternative!

William_Mary replies on Aug 1, 2018:

I argue it is the green party. It has had the same platform as Sanders since Nader's time. It has roots and growing considerably since 2016. Offers potential growth to our small business owners waiting patiently in the background to help it strive. And more so, also offers those of us a reality to take charge as a politician also. The false narrative of term limits will never come. And the Obama statement of, if you want change run for office yourself, was a slap in our face knowing the system will never allow you to change it. If enough people wake up and support it like we did Sanders, mass voting will be the ability for change.

NEO: Trump, Putin and the White Helmets [veteranstoday.

AlPastor comments on Jul 30, 2018:

About the founder of the Veterans Today website: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer More about the crackpot site, Veterans Today, and how it targets the US Military - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/12/how-russia-targets-the-us-military-215247

William_Mary replies on Jul 31, 2018:

@AlPastor Just as I figured. I'd be wasting my time on another person unable to hold a discussion to the topics that have been brought forth. Another one to join my list, with Paul, who can't provide any commentary with substance and or stay on topic. Only attack attack attack. Good luck with that in your life.

NEO: Trump, Putin and the White Helmets [veteranstoday.

AlPastor comments on Jul 30, 2018:

About the founder of the Veterans Today website: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer More about the crackpot site, Veterans Today, and how it targets the US Military - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/12/how-russia-targets-the-us-military-215247

William_Mary replies on Jul 30, 2018:

Ok, we want to go that way huh, attacking the founder of the site rather than the writer and issue at hand. Lets also mention that accusations are not proof. Lets also mention that there are a lot, I mean, lots of people who believe in a lot of the same "conspiracy theories" he's accused of believing. I personally take it as a complement when called a conspiracy nut. It just usually means the caller is ignorant and wishes to remain ignorant. Unable to or afraid to learn the truth. Then you want to direct me to a site with a pure biased agenda. You might want to give their about page a read. It doesn't take long to see them contradict their mission. Politico!?! Now you're really reaching, again! Here we have a news site that is made up of arms from the main stream media as long as the Mississippi and Missouri rivers. Obviously bias geared more towards liberals. Stop right there. No, I'm not a conservative either. See, I have a real problem when a site dedicated to providing information makes accusations towards someone without actually providing PROOF. When the links provided after an accusation lead me to a description of the accusation rather than the action of intent of the accused, I get a fishy smell! It's because that is a misleading means to manage one's perception. If someone goes into the site and reads that without actually clicking on the links, it's to easy to take what is typed out on the page as fact. They blindly close the page out and go on as ignorant as they went in. So RationalWiki easily goes down in flames. As far as Politico. Well, establishment made from establishment doesn't work for me. Lets move on though. You say- "and how it targets the US Military" I take that as you would be one who would like to silence free speech of the press, the 4th estate, to do their job. Lets just take that part of the check and balance system out right? We don't need no dam independent news sources out there doing real investigative journalism, right. All they'll do is mess up the system of illusion, via managed perception, the main stream media helps the establishment get away with. We need a dumbed down population, not people that know the truth about what we're doing around the world, and to them. Ok, maybe you just forgot about the 4th estate? Here's a refresher course. What is the Fourth Estate? https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-the-fourth-estate-3368058 When, wait, if, being I have my doubts you'll give me the light of day, you get done with the last paragraph. Be sure to click on that link provided, First Amendment to the Constitution, so you know that what we are talking about right now is also actually part of the Constitution! I give you Thomas Jefferson.

Breaking: The Hunt for Assad Begins, as Israel Presses War Crime Charges [veteranstoday.

Scottzillyun comments on Jul 29, 2018:

Its just amazing to me how thoroughly and savagely dedicated Israel is to being evil !

William_Mary replies on Jul 30, 2018:

@powder I'm reserved on Iran. The youth of that nation has changed it the last few election cycles. If they could just get rid of the hard line radical's and the CIA they'd might get to a point of being left alone.

Breaking: The Hunt for Assad Begins, as Israel Presses War Crime Charges [veteranstoday.

Scottzillyun comments on Jul 29, 2018:

Its just amazing to me how thoroughly and savagely dedicated Israel is to being evil !

William_Mary replies on Jul 29, 2018:

It's not just Israel. I also posted another article today about the white helmets evacuation from Syria in my group here. Along with them are top commanders of ISIS. Guess where they are going? Possibly a city near you. https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/07/25/neo-trump-putin-and-the-white-helmets/

139 House Democrats Join GOP to Approve $717 Billion in Military Spending [commondreams.

gigihein comments on Jul 29, 2018:

WTF

William_Mary replies on Jul 29, 2018:

right!

Breaking News Broke News [ghionjournal.com]

JanGarber comments on Jul 28, 2018:

Sinclair is going to kill local tv news and turn it into Fox.

William_Mary replies on Jul 29, 2018:

Or a left version of fox.

The coming collapse of the American economic system with Richard Wolff [rt.

4Humanity comments on Jul 28, 2018:

Here's another idea that might solve the problem of having to split the vote over to the Greens who may not have enough mind share to win: Hijack the Democratic party. Check out this article that essentially codifies what Bernie Sander's campaign started to do within the democratic party. It's ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 29, 2018:

The problem with that theory is the admittance of it's loyalty to the oligarchy is its own admission it will not change. As stated in the first thing I saw on this page. " The Democratic Party is hopelessly corporate, but election law is stacked against third parties. The Left needs an independent organization that can stay flexible about running as Democrats but behaves with the discipline of a real party. Also within that is mentioned, "law". The use of the word law in this manor is an attempt to manage your perception that a 3rd party can't win. When combined with the few other false narratives used towards 3rd parties, especially the green party, it attempts to take dominant control of the reality of conversation. There is no law holding anyone back from from voting for the green party! Mass voting for the green party trumps the establishments corrupt electoral PROCESS! As you might notice, it's a process, not a law! There for the left has an independent organization already in place. But as the tail end of that statement goes, leads you right back to the corruption we've already determined is corrupt and will not change. Are there laws restricting the green party from advancing? Yes. But the green party was on the national ballot of every state in 2016. There were no laws restricting you from voting for Jill Stein. They worked endlessly and tirelessly to provide you with an alternative. All on grass roots support. Which leads me to the people who want change. You have to work to get it. The green party is growing around the country due to people in the areas that want change by going out and working to get the green party installed into their elections. The only thing holding them back is the managed perception the media and establishment hold over so many. While everyone comes up with a brilliant idea of creating another party or alternative to the democratic party, there's already been one for decades now. It's a god dam ploy to keep you trapped in the same god dam illusion of the establishment! And they're using Sanders and now this Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as bait to keep us there. Obviously this Seth Ackerman has a thing for her, or to use her. Sanders showed his true colors, and her's have been slowly coming out. As I'm going through this article, it's basically mirroring what I'm saying while at the same time promoting my answers to it. And a lot of wasted time with history lessons. Which is probably a means for a reader to tire quickly and close it out leaving with a distorted managed perception we need a new party, again. I started following this site a while back and quickly realized it was agenda bound. I just can't put my finger on who's agenda it's out to serve though. I'm fairly certain it's not for the benefit of the people ...

DEFENDING LAND AND ENVIRONMENTAL RIGHTS HAS BECOME AN INCREASINGLY DEADLY ENDEAVOR ...

Renickulous comments on Jul 28, 2018:

Pretty much just in south america

William_Mary replies on Jul 28, 2018:

Latin America has a lot of strife in this area also in the mining and oil fields. They are presently dealing with land take over's and corruption especially with gold right now. I posted a story a couple weeks ago out of Venezuela. Maduro has his hands full with indigenous protest over a mining company attempting land grabs and officials being indicted of stealing gold while working with the companies.

Humanity Is Deciding If It Will Evolve Or Die [caitlinjohnstone.com]

cava comments on Jul 27, 2018:

The advantages associated with economies of scale are expanding the size of corporations unbelievably. The Amazon Corp and Apple Computer are approaching 1 Trillion dollar asset size. I am not sure how it all pan out but I suspect that corporations at some point may have more power than ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 28, 2018:

@cava The Pullman and Lancaster stories are quite different I believe. Lancaster was a case of concerned citizens from within a company base voluntarily injecting themselves into their already existing community. These were people of the community with a purpose. Where Pullman was built for a purpose to maximize profits. For the era it's a wonder he didn't also develop his own currency, which was the case in some mining towns as such in West Virginia and surrounding areas. I personally find that to be quite different from the failed history of a rich owner attempting to exploit his workers. In the Lancaster case, we have products that are still being used today in as much as need having been hostilely taken over to maximize profit by a bully company. Then dissolving the company base of natural citizens, injecting outside people who don't care and only there to serve the company's agenda. I think the Pullman town ideology could actually be a successful work. But it takes a majority or group with a meaningful purpose to serve a community that you're not likely to find from a singular individual with a self serving agenda. Also requiring a backup plan if your product becomes obsolete or strongly competitive. With Pullman that was quite inevitable. With Lancaster we have only our own flaws of human nature combined with trade laws to blame. If it wasn't for the work of one individual, or company, with an agenda to destroy another company for profit, left alone, this company that once was the major glass maker of around the world could still be the temp plate of success. Not only as a company, but for a city also.

Humanity Is Deciding If It Will Evolve Or Die [caitlinjohnstone.com]

cava comments on Jul 27, 2018:

The advantages associated with economies of scale are expanding the size of corporations unbelievably. The Amazon Corp and Apple Computer are approaching 1 Trillion dollar asset size. I am not sure how it all pan out but I suspect that corporations at some point may have more power than ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2018:

You might find this of interest, especially if you're a reader. https://www.npr.org/2017/02/06/513713606/glass-house-chronicles-the-sharp-decline-of-an-all-american-factory-town You can listen to the interview at about 30 minutes long. But this Brian Alexander wrote a book about Lancaster Ohio, and a factory there. Before a hostile take over the wife's of the CEO's were staunchly involved in the communities schools and city council. It's quite an interesting story and quite an ugly end to a once thriving community. Your reply leads me to a fairy tale dream world of mine, only corporations actually care for the communities they are in and the people that work for them.

Humanity Is Deciding If It Will Evolve Or Die [caitlinjohnstone.com]

AwarenessNow comments on Jul 27, 2018:

Wow, I didn't know that the insect population has dropped by 90%. That's going to be the catastrophe.

William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2018:

I can attest to that. As a biker and truck driver, I'm getting very few bugs this year. As a truck driver it's not unusual to have a windshield dotted like a dart board all summer long. It usually takes a month to get a completely clean windshield after the bug season. I also caught an NPR show early this spring talking about this with a guy from the UK. He made the same claims and quite worried about it. It could be devastating to the chain. If I remember right, he was tying it into possibly being an effect from the chem trails and or fertilizers.

Humanity Is Deciding If It Will Evolve Or Die [caitlinjohnstone.com]

EdEarl comments on Jul 27, 2018:

The positive feedback loop causing climate change to accelerate is thawing of the arctic tundra. It contains enough CO2 to double the 450 PPM in the atmosphere already. A change from 300 to 450 PPM raises the Earth's temperature about 2 C. So, the feedback loop is expected to raise CO2 to 750 PPM, ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2018:

I think it was yesterday, on NPR. Can't remember which show. But they were talking to some guy about this and towards the end of the show something was mentioned about a fire above one of the poles. I would imagine the north. I can't find anything on it though. I'm wondering if a cloud on methane might have went up and burnt for a short period of time. I also caught a while back something on the permafrost. This shit having been all froze up for 10's thousands of years can hold some viruses we might not want out!

Veterans Sustain Two Serious Defeats From Trump And The House To VA Health Care [forbes.

Iamnissa comments on Jul 26, 2018:

The tRump administration is incapable of goverance in the Democratic tradition. Their agenda is only beneficial to big business.

William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2018:

I argue both are in the same racket against us. Democrats have had their unjust moments towards veterans also. As far as big business, the last president, Obama, handed them the largest socialized payoff under the disguise of bailouts than all presidents combined before him.

When Politics Becomes Fantasy Football [ghionjournal.

sassygirl3869 comments on Jul 23, 2018:

I don't cheer for politicians or parties-I cheer for social justice and civil rights for all Is that moving to the left for me? Possibly. However parties control elections and candidates. Can that change? Only if third parties become relevant.

William_Mary replies on Jul 23, 2018:

@ArdentAtheist yea, to many people waiting! While you're waiting the game goes on. We just don't agree with that aspect of the game I guess. I like your sentiment though.

What the Mainstream Media Won’t Tell You About Immigration and MS-13 [theantimedia.

HeathenFarmer comments on Jul 23, 2018:

I learn this back in the 70's when the USA deliberately destroyed the oldest democracy in the Americas, Chile, that was a crime that should have sent your leaders to the world court for crime against humanity.

William_Mary replies on Jul 23, 2018:

I like your sentiment to a degree. But I think the westernized world is in on all this together. Our government may be the military might, in which we are used to make it look like all us. But you have to look at economical aspect also. Sanctions on Latin America, Iraq, Syria, Iran, the list is endless over the decades. That each of these countries played a part in to help destroy. And it isn't just our companies benefiting from the puppet governments when installed.

What the Mainstream Media Won’t Tell You About Immigration and MS-13 [theantimedia.

242Foxtrot comments on Jul 23, 2018:

There's some truth to this, but I would suggest we look beyond the politicians to the powerful economic interests they serve for the true explanation of American atrocities around the world. The constituency of the elected officials of the US Government is not made up of voters, it is the special ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 23, 2018:

We can't just look beyond them though when they are working with the oligarchs against us?

Terrified by Progressive Enthusiasm Sweeping the Nation, Corporate Democrats Have Begun Planning a ...

chalupacabre comments on Jul 23, 2018:

There's also a rumor that Sanders may grab the primary victory, then decline, to run as an Independent, effectively shutting down any Democratic candidates. One giant "suck it!", while receiving campaign funds and maintaining recognition. ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 23, 2018:

Yea, I don't get it. A lot of projectory in that. I think a lot of people are going to get a kick in the ass this round, 2020. In 2016 the media totally over hyped Clinton rallies. She probably got 90% + coverage over Sanders and Stein combined. While Sanders was burning down cities across the country she was left with the hose putting out the fires on TV and radio with all the help they could give her. And quite frankly, I think she loses in a fair battle. People are more aware today of her yesteryears. She wasn't as popular as the media was making her out. And most of us Sanders supporters aren't going to fall for his shit again either. He burnt his bridges! I spend a lot of time on social media from late 2015 in that primary promoting Sanders. I seen a lot of independents AND republicans looking for information on how to change parties to vote for him. Those republicans aren't coming back to someone that allowed that movement to be stolen like he did. Sanders really screwed a lot of people and they aren't going to forget it. And the democratic party knows it and that's why he's out there to attempt to draw them back in. It's not even really a democrat or republican thing now. They have a war on progressives going on. I give you Nancy Pelosi. And they are scared shitless with the progressive and green party outcomes going on in this primary season going on. It's all about putting up a wall on any chance of a 3rd party getting into the mix.

The Burden Of Proof Is On The Russiagaters [caitlinjohnstone.com]

Paul4747 comments on Jul 23, 2018:

There's a point at which skepticism is justified, and then one at which it's skepticism for the sake of skepticism. Multiple indictments have been issued in this case. Guilty pleas have been taken. It's safe to say the burden of proof is being met. And it's also completely fair to ask, what's ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 23, 2018:

What evidence? There's been none provided. Only accusations. The only convictions have had nothing to do with Russian collaboration with the Trump campaign. And they were issues the DOJ should have been on top of without having to call for a special council investigation. Mueller's attempt to connect the first round of indictments to the Trump campaign backfired in his face in a hearing. When he went before the council over the click bait shop out of St. Petersburg, he left the hearing scrambling to find a way to keep the evidence he claims he has out of court. He can't do anything with indictments. No one is coming from Russia to face them and he can't just go get them. SO when their lawyers showed up instead, he got his ass handed to him to kiss when they asked for the evidence. Which ties into your comment "you have to come up with a theory of your own that fits the facts". Again, what facts? If this wasn't brought up I don't have a need for a theory on a case that doesn't exist, nor should this one. Which would take me to my reasoning of why's there is this case. But attempting to me drag me, and allowing you to, into a scenario or theory of my reasoning leaves me open to the same argument I'm making, in which I make the same mistake as others. All I'll say is, where did this development come from? That's not being mentioned or discussed by almost everyone that should be talking about it.

When Politics Becomes Fantasy Football [ghionjournal.

sassygirl3869 comments on Jul 23, 2018:

I don't cheer for politicians or parties-I cheer for social justice and civil rights for all Is that moving to the left for me? Possibly. However parties control elections and candidates. Can that change? Only if third parties become relevant.

William_Mary replies on Jul 23, 2018:

On just those 2 issues I would say no. One will only become relevant when enough people have had enough and finally stand up. Until then we'll continue to get slow incremental changes to part of those issues while certain groups continue to go backwards. Right now Trump is moving them backwards. But that's because the democrats didn't do enough when they could. That is by design. Please see the 1-2 punch above.

When Politics Becomes Fantasy Football [ghionjournal.

sassygirl3869 comments on Jul 23, 2018:

I don't cheer for politicians or parties-I cheer for social justice and civil rights for all Is that moving to the left for me? Possibly. However parties control elections and candidates. Can that change? Only if third parties become relevant.

William_Mary replies on Jul 23, 2018:

@ArdentAtheist when you finally realize this, like me, you may find yourself wanting to try to get others to see things differently. The democrat and republican parties are one in the same working together for the same people. Dems And GOP Work Together Like A Boxer’s 1–2 Punch To Knock You Out https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/

Et Tu Bernie? [ghionjournal.com]

JustKip comments on Jul 21, 2018:

Great article! It addresses the realities of American politics, and shines the spotlight on the shell game of blaming someone else for the absolute lack of a winning possibility. Bernie has always been part of the corporate game of misdirection. Sure, he's the "kinder" choice, but that choice still ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 22, 2018:

@GipsyOfNewSpain you get that perception from what? I had what I thought was the right candidate in 2016. He turned out to be a con artist for the Clinton machine. The video in the article clears some of that up for you. I moved on after being conned to another candidate. That candidate works squarely on grass roots donations and grass roots supporters. Engage before jumping to conclusions, or you're wasting my time only for yourself to be seen.

Et Tu Bernie? [ghionjournal.com]

David1955 comments on Jul 21, 2018:

Yes, Mr Sanders needs to stay focused on the big picture. The progressive forces that want to reform the Democratic Party to the left, or create a movement transcending the DP have been saying not to be sidelined by the Russia story. It's true that countries do this stuff, the US as much as anyone. ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 22, 2018:

Both parties have betrayed us and the country for allowing it to become a Trump. You can't change the democratic party. They keep showing us they aren't going to change time after time. They now even voice opposition to any means of a progressive candidate. The Russian thing you refer to should be a DNC and Clinton thing! BUT, the entire democratic party, local, state, and national, have completely ignored what they did in 2016. Not only the democratic party, but the republican party. That is a quite loud silence!

Et Tu Bernie? [ghionjournal.com]

Marz comments on Jul 22, 2018:

This author is all over the place. Seriously, he wants Bernie to do everything on his own and expect no consequence or resistance. A third party option isn’t viable in our current political system, because partisan corporations own the media and the two parties own the debates. Bernie still ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 22, 2018:

That is the exact managed perception they have forced you into. https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/ As long as you stay trapped in that mindset, they keep winning and getting away with what they pulled off in 2016 against Sanders. And then we keep getting the 1-2 punch. https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ I was a staunch supporter of Sanders and spent time from late 2015 promoting Sanders to the top of the primary cycle. We took Sanders to that top merely with grass roots support and donations! We can do the same with a 3rd party once united behind a 3rd party. Step out of their illusion! "Out Of The Illusion Group" Once they reach a certain percentage they get into the debates. The only thing holding the 3rd party back are those who complain, like you do in your very reply, and remain stuck in their managed perception. And you'll never get a sincere change in citizens united. Every change that is made there is always loop holes provided to work around the new change. That's a designed purpose to keep you out and their owners in which continues their power structure over us.

Et Tu Bernie? [ghionjournal.com]

JustKip comments on Jul 21, 2018:

Great article! It addresses the realities of American politics, and shines the spotlight on the shell game of blaming someone else for the absolute lack of a winning possibility. Bernie has always been part of the corporate game of misdirection. Sure, he's the "kinder" choice, but that choice still ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

I spent a lot of time promoting Sanders during primary, how disappointing. But I believe we can take a 3rd party to the top just as we did Sanders with grass root support. We just need to draw people out of the illusion trap of the establishment!

Et Tu Bernie? [ghionjournal.com]

cava comments on Jul 21, 2018:

US politics = $$$$$ Money must be taken out of politics if we wish to retain a democratic form of government. This is not happening and those who are in power will not allow it to happen. The only power people have is their right to vote, but when the choices of who to vote for is rigged and ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

You're not going to get the money out of politics! Unless you join forces with a party against money in politics. Money is in politics for a reason and they aren't going to allow you to change that. No matter what they throw out there to attempt to show you they are changing that, they also throw in a loop hole to disguise it.

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Druvius comments on Jul 20, 2018:

And we're in the mess were in because Clinton ran an arrogant uninspired campaign and was unable to lead her party to victory over Trump and his clown car campaign. If she had climbed down from her entitled high horse and reached out to Sander's supporters after she had the nomination, she'd be the ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@Switchcraft so in other words, you're openly admitting to cognitive dissonance rather than facing a fear towards stepping out of the managed perception you're engulfed in. You asked for documentation which some was provided in the video, which I guess you didn't have time to watch. Factual information leading to a different view of the Clinton's Yea, a lot of the information in the video required using your mind and challenges one's developed opinion. And Caitlin's article giving a good analogy to our politics. If that's just to much for you to handle just say so. Rather than waste the time the next time when you provide a fake case of intelligent debate on the next person. I put a lot of time into putting out the other side of our corrupt government to be wasted on someone unwilling to be intelligent and mind trapped in their illusion that I could be spending doing my own work and enjoying the weekend. To you sir, I bid a good day. Done!

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Surfpirate comments on Jul 20, 2018:

So really just Bernie and Stein to choose from. :)

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@Surfpirate I misunderstood your reply. I tied it in with a reply I made and then was addressed by another person. That happens when you provide no substance.

To be totally fair...

azzow2 comments on Jul 20, 2018:

I have always like Ralph Nader he had made several run at the presidency. I always have wondered if he had chosen an electable party would he have won?

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@azzow2 Mass voting. When enough people fight back against the tribal politics being forced on us they can't deny the vote without illegally doing so. Part of the managed perception now is that a 3rd party can't win. But I'll argue it can and did, in a way. I spent over a year on social media, starting late 2015, promoting the Sanders campaign. A man few people had much knowledge of in which we took to the top of the primary with all grass roots donations. Basically a 3rd party candidate? I helped people around the country of all political affiliations switch parties to vote for this guy. I saw independents and republicans alike switch from their chosen status where it was necessary to vote for a proclaimed democratic socialist. Let me repeat part of that to underscore the importance. I saw and in some cases REPUBLICANS had changed party affiliation and explained to other REPUBLICANS how to switch party affiliation to vote for a socialist! That's by any means in the political atmosphere today that is perceived within our tribal politics, astounding! People are hungry for a change from our current direction as a country. Of those republicans many were well into their middle age and in senior years willing to vote for a sense of socialism. What happened? The entire DNC, thanks to Wiki Leaks, illegally tampered with the vote in many aspects. From day one in Iowa and throughout the country in all caucuses, it was a quagmire of improper registration, not enough forms to register, back room meetings that Sanders surrogates were blocked from, people sent away with improper mail in ballots, denied recounts, etc. Across the country people were purged off the voting list that heavenly might have a Sanders advantage, online registration sites went down as many as 3 days before voting, people were unknowingly switched to another party unable to vote in the democratic primary. The green party is currently taking a good step forward in this primary cycle, mostly local right now. It's up to us to get them in all parts of our governments. The media being part of the establishments weapons aren't going to do it for us! I'm not shy about posting about my political views on facehack. And I follow all aspects of the green party locally and nationally and post in hopes those on my list will at some time wake up also. In theory, we can do for the green party what we did with Sanders. Even though he did turn out to be a con job :-( "Out Of The Illusion Group"

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Druvius comments on Jul 20, 2018:

And we're in the mess were in because Clinton ran an arrogant uninspired campaign and was unable to lead her party to victory over Trump and his clown car campaign. If she had climbed down from her entitled high horse and reached out to Sander's supporters after she had the nomination, she'd be the ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@JustLynnie no, Trump is the result of managed perception forced onto us by tribal politics and the media they use against us. While you're seeing it as one is better than the other, towing your party line, both of them are together working against us. Please see https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/ Then https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ "Out Of The Illusion Group"

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Druvius comments on Jul 20, 2018:

And we're in the mess were in because Clinton ran an arrogant uninspired campaign and was unable to lead her party to victory over Trump and his clown car campaign. If she had climbed down from her entitled high horse and reached out to Sander's supporters after she had the nomination, she'd be the ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@Switchcraft Wiki Leaks got a good start on that for us. You missed the leaks they provided us? Ever hear of Libya? It was an illegal act. Just because she and Obama got away with it doesn't make it any less so. Clinton is every bit a vile person Trump is. I challenge you to spend some time learning her history. Hillary Clinton's Business of Corporate Shilling & War Making https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUeHZMfQ-Uc

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Surfpirate comments on Jul 20, 2018:

So really just Bernie and Stein to choose from. :)

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@Surfpirate during a period of one of the worse times in our history while we were financially supporting and arming terrorist groups, engaged in a near complete destruction of what was the largest city in Syria, Aleppo, at that time, do I need to remind you what he said when he was asked what he would do about it? With our government, military, and CIA involved in creating these groups to create a false civil uprising, along with these weapons and terrorist eventually taking them to join ISIS killing thousands of innocent civilians and using them for shields, a presidential candidate by all means needs to know what Aleppo is. It's not an is! It's a where! So when a potential presidential candidate ask, "what is Aleppo" quite frankly, he should have been shot in the head right where he sat! All those factors I mention above in this issue are basic knowledge for a presidential candidate to know of going on around the world. This case was the main story line and had been for weeks. And his ignorance to it was as loud as the bombs doing the killing and the children screaming and crying. This didn't make Gary Johnson go crawl in a hole denouncing his candidacy as it should have. A week later he crawled out onto another news stage and went deer eyed when asked to name a world leader he admired or liked. He was so god dam stuttering paralyzed his running mate sitting beside him had to start flapping his lips. And those that continued to support him then are the very reason we have what we have today. And will have after the next election cycle. Cognitive dissonance and managed perception. The Victory of ‘Perception Management’ https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/

To be totally fair...

azzow2 comments on Jul 20, 2018:

I have always like Ralph Nader he had made several run at the presidency. I always have wondered if he had chosen an electable party would he have won?

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

The Green Party is electable. All it takes is for people to step out of the 2 party illusion of managed perception. The public does what they've been brainwashed to do. The Victory of ‘Perception Management’ https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Surfpirate comments on Jul 20, 2018:

So really just Bernie and Stein to choose from. :)

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

@SkotlandSkye Gary Johnson, the other Trump? He's so ignorant to world politics he'd made Trump look brilliant.

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Surfpirate comments on Jul 20, 2018:

So really just Bernie and Stein to choose from. :)

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

Bernie works for the democrats now. So, seriously?

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Druvius comments on Jul 20, 2018:

And we're in the mess were in because Clinton ran an arrogant uninspired campaign and was unable to lead her party to victory over Trump and his clown car campaign. If she had climbed down from her entitled high horse and reached out to Sander's supporters after she had the nomination, she'd be the ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

@JustLynnie na, those of us that went for real change just couldn't see ourselves being forced into lowering our morals to vote for the other side of hell. Clinton and the entire DNC with the help of Sander's made a mockery out of democracy. Why would you expect us to vote for proven criminals that are still supporting global war and murder of innocent civilians worldwide?

This was drawn in the 30's. Why are we still doing this, this way?

OldGoat43 comments on Jul 20, 2018:

Money draws them in. Money is being spent at an expanding rate during wars by all parties involved. Everything is consumed and needs to be replaced. The economy has no where to go but up afterwards.

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

Hold that thought! I heard today the yield curve is showing signs of a recession. It's done something that tends for a recession within a year.

Remember When Russians… [ghionjournal.

gigihein comments on Jul 20, 2018:

I think I saw that. It was horrifying Zero Days, I think. I tsaw it a few years ago when visiting friends on Thanksgiving. The thought that we would cripple the infrastructure _ their gtid, transportation, phones, so civilans would have no escape was unfathomable. I never understood how it dodnt ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

The CIA has been meddling in Iranian affairs since the 50's. The Reagan administration before it was in power. The hostages that Carter took so much flack over were held longer in Iran to make Reagan look like a hero once he was sworn in. No one mentions that!?! I'm not claiming Russia isn't a bad guy, just not the only bad guy.

Russiagate Is Like 9/11, Except It’s Made Of Pure Narrative [caitlinjohnstone.com]

Druvius comments on Jul 18, 2018:

Yerp, Trump has been harder on Russia than Obama. Wouldn't know that watching CNN.

William_Mary replies on Jul 19, 2018:

@Science-guy I take that back. It's not a theory, it's simply fact.

Russiagate Is Like 9/11, Except It’s Made Of Pure Narrative [caitlinjohnstone.com]

Druvius comments on Jul 18, 2018:

Yerp, Trump has been harder on Russia than Obama. Wouldn't know that watching CNN.

William_Mary replies on Jul 19, 2018:

@Science-guy Caitlin isn't about a news source. She's simply a political writer one can compare their own developing political opinions to from their own knowledge. She and a couple other writers I use here simply save me time I don't have to express my views from what I've learned. She actually gets under my skin at times as she constantly only gripes about American politics while her own country is in bed with the same establishment and deep state her country serves. This particular analogy isn't hard to come to or understand if you have spent the time following politics and examining the theory of managed perception by our politicians and media that Robert Parry exposed in which started in the 80's in a large expansion agenda. The Victory of ‘Perception Management’ https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/

Vladimir Putin isn't joking when he tells Trump he'd like to work with our intelligence.

Lop-Eared-Mule comments on Jul 17, 2018:

Damn right! If you still don't believe we have a treasonous traitor in the White House, you need therapy.

William_Mary replies on Jul 17, 2018:

In all of our government!

The FACT is, our United States Congress has NOT authorized any military intervention whatsoever in ...

Lop-Eared-Mule comments on Jul 17, 2018:

Don't you mean Russia?

William_Mary replies on Jul 17, 2018:

It's quite likely they are beholden to the same power structure. See my morning post.

Trump finally does something right for a change.

Bakunin comments on Jul 16, 2018:

What did he do right?

William_Mary replies on Jul 17, 2018:

@Bakunin I have no evidence. But he has lead a life of treason like efforts towards humanity and our population. See my upcoming post. We may have a lot of people that are treasonous in our government.

Before you all go losing your minds over the summit.

Bendog comments on Jul 16, 2018:

Someone has lost their mind.

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

Afraid of the truth and a good debate I see. Nice no substance! When you rather to just have a nuclear war, who then has lost their mind?

Before you all go losing your minds over the summit.

Secretguy comments on Jul 16, 2018:

You are what's known in politics as a useful idiot.

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

Afraid of the truth and a good debate I see. Nice no substance! When you rather to just have a nuclear war, who then is the idiot?

Trump finally does something right for a change.

Bakunin comments on Jul 16, 2018:

What did he do right?

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

He suggested that the intelligence information on the Russian witch hunt is probably wrong. Which it is. And he snuffed out the fire of hostile talk with another nuclear power rather than spouting off bullshit attempting to lead us into war with them. And might be making some progress in calming down the Syrian war.

The coming collapse of the American economic system with Richard Wolff [rt.

4Humanity comments on Jul 16, 2018:

I am a big Richard Wolff fan and wish capitalism an early end, but I'm still concerned that voting Green could erode the chances to remove Trump and his cohorts. I admit to being a Bernie fan, so I'm not immune from going against the mainstream. But convince me that going Green isn't going too far ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

Those 2 parties are playing us. They have an agenda to keep us divided as they strive towards the same goals. And the media helps them do this. Over 90% of our media is owned by 6 mega billionaires that contribute to those 2 parties. It's really a system of managed perception towards making us believe how they want us to see the world, while they slowly move us in the direction of perpetual world war and take control of as much of our aspects to life as possible. And a large part of that entails shrinking the middle class and dumbing down the population with false repetitive news. Also keeping any sense of a socialist country to succeed, in which you have the situation there is in Venezuela. That is why Robert Parry left main stream media due to the strife he faced while covering the wars in Central America. You can read about him here. https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/28/robert-parrys-legacy-and-the-future-of-consortiumnews/ If you go back to the Reagan administration and take a careful mind towards where we are today, you can get a sense of how we now have basically 2 republican parties. And each president since then has not only failed to practice their policy claims as they ran for office, but merely carried on the same agenda. More wars, less freedom and rights are the 2 most devastating results we have gotten. Growing inequality and politics that really only serve the rich, worse, the most wealthy. Both parties are working to take us backwards. Here's an article from Caitlin Johnston. But you can search my post and find about the same story from other writers and journalist that tell this same story in other ways. If it wasn't late I'd be glad to do it for you. Or would this weekend digging up some of them for you. I just happen to be up late because I can't sleep. This news today has me feeling really disturbed by the MSM and populations reactions. Anyways, she goes into the FCC thing then a couple other issues. But you can add any issue to the talking point and actually get basically the same results. Dems And GOP Work Together Like A Boxer’s 1–2 Punch To Knock You Out https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ It really doesn't matter which party is in control when they both are taking us in the same direction. So the question then becomes, why stay with either if neither are serving for you?

Our Connective Existence: If Only We Could be Governed by Our Hearts: [ghionjournal.

gigihein comments on Jul 15, 2018:

I was unable to open the article, but what you are describing is happening everywhere. Even union jobs in many states no longer have raises to get people to top pay, we pay more for insurance, it really is trickle up benefits with less for workers and consumers. We are not a collective society and ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

I think I fixed it, for now. I've been having a hell of a time with links here for some reason over a period of about 3 weeks now. Words in my post come up missing, or letters missing. Addresses in my links get add on's or partly taken out to make them bad. I have even gone back and fixed them as many times as 3 in a day for them to only go bad again.

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 14, 2018:

I presume you like Fox?

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

@AnneWimsey ok Anne, this will be my last reply to you. I've been as respectful as I can be despite your ignorance and cheap shots at me. Once again you are proving my points. You are directing cheap party affiliation and talking points at me while knowing nothing about me. In which I offered you a chance to get to know me and my politics. You assumed you knew I was a Fox supporter. I explained that was not the case. Now you throw Trump at me as though I'm a Trump supporter and or support his policies. Again you assume wrong. You are attempting to devalue me in the same manor the article brought to light that MSNBC attempted to devalue Glen Greenwald and Jill Stein. By attacking me rather than the issue in the article you have committed the same political problems we face I find people are programmed to produce. You comments have absolutely no substance and totally lack any factual means towards the attacks you make on me. I'm learning nothing from you due to this and this is wasting my time as I'm preparing another article for my group. Since you like satire so much, here's some for you. Being I know it's off the charts for you. If you want green, see Jill Stein, the one you will not give the light of day to. The green party is the only party talking green policies.

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 14, 2018:

I presume you like Fox?

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

@AnneWimsey thank you! You just keep proving my point. And the sad thing is you don't even get it. Good luck to you in that illusion. Be sure to pass it on to those you love. They'll need it as the world gets worse.

While our newest war hawk puts on another fake show.

Bakunin comments on Jul 12, 2018:

Look. The countries in question would have to buy their military hardware from somebody. Read: USA. Therefore this is just a way for Trump to drive the military-industrial complex production even higher than it already is (which is already the biggest in the world). Just another way to make wealth ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

The countries in question all make and sell their own weapons. It doesn't make any logical sense. I'm at a developing opinion at this moment that this NATO shit talk is all a distraction from something else. I think I fairly spelled some of this out in another post from yesterday. Everything Trump claims to have gotten out of this summit is the same as what was agreed on in 2014 by most reports. https://agnostic.com/group/unempire/post/130621/brits-dont-mince-words-the-most-irreverent-and-radical-signs-from-uks-historic-anti-trump-protest

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 14, 2018:

I presume you like Fox?

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

No! I staunchly promote independent new sources. As I, in other words, stated above in my initial post, 90% of our main steam media is a systematic program used by our government and the 6 people that own that 90% to manage your perception to what they want you to believe. The article above is simply that measure in which MSNBC used against Glenn Greenwald to devalue his work to their followers with false information. As he also explained they did to Jill Stein. Jill Stein was attacked with the most vicious falsely manufactured propaganda machine by all main stream media news sources during the last election cycle. If it wasn't for people like me, most Americans wouldn't even know she exists. And the media used their power to make her as little of a threat in the elections as possible. Fox is every bit as bad as MSNBC! And you actually proven part of my issues with main stream media. And fallen right into their trap. Because I posted an article that brought out the light of how MSNBC conducts themselves towards others with valued opinions, by manufacturing lies, you instantly assumed I'm a Fox follower. Even though I stated clearly in my initial post our media has an agenda. If you had simply clicked on the link I provided to my group here at the bottom of my initial post, you also would have found more information on my agenda to lead others to better news sources and out of the main stream medias illusion. Just as it goes with democrat and republican, so it goes with news sources. They keep you divided and trapped in that "you have to be one of them or the other". I'm against both corrupt parties and both MSNBC and FOX. There are better alternatives to both our politics and new sources.

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

BlueWave comments on Jul 14, 2018:

Love that reliably trustworthy Intercept. That’s the epitome on non-biased world-class journalism right there. I hear they're in the running for a few Pulitzers this year, right? Screw CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the BBC, the NYT, the LAT and the WaPo—they are all FAKE NEWS —and my money is ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 14, 2018:

Actually, since The Intercept was bought out about 3 years ago, it has become a little more spotty on establishment towing. I've been following it for a few years and have noticed the difference. They do still hold some good writers though. I actually caught one of their bad writers today. Blue, I run a group here at Agnostic, "Out Of The Illusion Group" , in which I posted about an article another writer put out on The Intercept. Glen Greenwald is of course one of their finer and I've read many articles of his. you might find my post interesting. As follows. https://agnostic.com/group/unempire/post/130683/heres-the-difference-between-fake-news-and-real-news-i-often-post-articles-from-the-intercept-so

Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.

SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:

Too much truth spoken in this group...which would probably upset about ninety percent of the members on this site who worship the likes of CNN and MSM.

William_Mary replies on Jul 13, 2018:

I have to admit I was quite naive coming into this site thinking I'd find more open mined people. But I quickly came to find that within the same type of manged perception religion engulfs over a large part of our population, so does the MSM with seemingly most people here. I actually figured if people were able to step out of that illusion, of organized religion, surely they would have a better conscience to seek out truth within our politics and its consequences around the world.

Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.

metalhead222 comments on Jul 13, 2018:

You got balls man big ones the truth is the single hardest thing to find . So I applaud anyone willing to stand up and scream about capitalist pigs or misinformation wich makes change dam near impossible cutos:)

William_Mary replies on Jul 13, 2018:

It does seem to be an endless thankless chore. Thank you! I hope you stick around and add your opinion.

Let this sink in for a moment, if you need a moment.

Geoffrey51 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

I've noticed that since Blair came to power in Britain the two major parties, Conservstive and Labour have been tussling over the middle ground, traditionally the territory of The Liberal or later Liberal Democrat party. This gives rise to extreme right and left parties and independents. As a ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 10, 2018:

Yea, I see that all as the same as we deal with here. Dog and pony show. All of Europe is moving backwards into austerity and seemingly fascism, losing rights and social programs. It's by design there as it is here. Because their politicians are owned by the same people ours are.

Personalities vs Institutional Nepotism: A Follow Up to My Ocasio-Cortez Article ...

Geoffrey51 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

If the Green Party in USA are anything like the Green Party in Australia and UK they'll sell their mother like the rest now. They used to be a fantastic pressure group and elicited many changes for the better in government by raising issues that the mainstream had to incorporate due to polling ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 10, 2018:

@Geoffrey51 well there's always going to be bad apples no matter what group you're in. It's what the group does as a whole. If this one entity brought down the whole group, that is quite interesting. At the time I'm dealing with 2 groups full of bad apples rotting away the world society, and fellow country persons supporting them to rot the basket I'm stuck in with them. I want to change that!

Like It or Not, Trump Is Systematically Eliminating the Imperial Capitalist Order ...

Solar1 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

I just see him as the puppet Sharpshooter or henchmen whatever you want to call it for the liquidation team

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

@Solar1 I realize a lot of our past presidents were members of secret societies. And if not, end up in the club one way or another. But I have half an idea Trump may very well be the first to actually be a member of the deep state. That is with his father and uncle's backgrounds. His uncle, John Trump has ties to Tesla. He seems to have played a big role in Tesla's apparent missing files along with the OSS and FBI after his death. The History Channel had a series on about it about 2 months ago. I'm hoping they don't cancel season 2. It was quite interesting.

Personalities vs Institutional Nepotism: A Follow Up to My Ocasio-Cortez Article ...

Geoffrey51 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

If the Green Party in USA are anything like the Green Party in Australia and UK they'll sell their mother like the rest now. They used to be a fantastic pressure group and elicited many changes for the better in government by raising issues that the mainstream had to incorporate due to polling ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

On very few occasions I have heard bad of Europe's green party also. My problem with that was when confronted, they couldn't provide any evidence of their claims. I'm quite certain if there was actually dirt to put out about the party or any members of, the MSM would have trample over each other to put it out in public. If you follow my post here, I post a ton of articles of Caitlin Johnstone's, who is from your country. I don't think I've ever heard her say a thing about the green party there. Although she does from time to time admit your government is a tool to the US Empire, she tends to stick to mainly writing about our politics.

Let this sink in for a moment, if you need a moment.

Rangerbeavis comments on Jul 9, 2018:

What if all voters circled NONE OF THE ABOVE?

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

I once had the theory we should all refuse to vote. But even if you could get everyone on page they'd just pick someone themselves. I mean seriously, the democrats did that in the 2016 primary with us voting.

Canadian Miners Do in Mexico What They Aren't Allowed at Home [telesurtv.

gigihein comments on May 19, 2018:

We do similar things.Pharmaceutical companies were in Puerto Rico where either OSHA didnt apply or wasnt monitored. Male workers were growing breasts where north control pills were made.i read several articles when I frequently vacationed there in then80s and 90s.

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

@gigihein you're quite welcome. Thank you for following!

German Cars and American Steak: Early Trade War Victims Emerge [us.

Science-guy comments on Jul 8, 2018:

Broken link?

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

Sorry. For some reason a lot of my links here lately become broken even though I've checked them after posting. I'm to a point I think someone is sabotaging me. Some I have gone back and fixed as many as 3 times. Maybe this source will stay?

How Liberal Partisan Politics Strengthen the Right Wing [truthout.

JustKip comments on Jul 8, 2018:

This is neither new, nor surprising.

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

@JustKip thank you! Sometimes it just takes another persons way of putting it to reach someone I can't!

How Liberal Partisan Politics Strengthen the Right Wing [truthout.

JustKip comments on Jul 8, 2018:

This is neither new, nor surprising.

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

So your reply is to discourage others from reading rather than to add your thoughts from a developed opinion? I just posted it a few minutes before you replied. The top article being fresh from yesterday. So maybe since your engulfed in all the wisdom of the issues, could you be so nice to provide us as to why we still continue to struggle with them. So we can move on to a better future for our following generations!

They are attempting to take as much from your next generation as they can this very moment.

gigihein comments on Jul 7, 2018:

I hsve faith the upcoming generations will. Things have gotten so out of control that even adolescents can see taking babies and kids from parents, doing nothing about school shootings by limiting military weapons not sold, ptotection for the environment and actions to correct climate change rolled ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

We need to help this millennial generation reach their goals! They don't want what we have allowed to become during the past several decades! And I bloody well don't blame them. They are indeed disowning the worlds blood on our hands. Peace.People.Planet.

Numb to Outrage, Republican Voters Feel a Deepening Bond to Trump ...

Robin1970 comments on Jul 7, 2018:

Trump could rape a baby in public and republicans would cheer him on.

William_Mary replies on Jul 7, 2018:

Dam mit girl! Don't give that asshole any ideas!

Meet Andrew Wheeler, the Coal Lobbyist Who Just Took Over the EPA [theantimedia.com]

Rangerbeavis comments on Jul 6, 2018:

Our time is coming. At the next election we will throw the bums out! The Republican party is toast!

William_Mary replies on Jul 6, 2018:

I wish it was looking to be that easy. But there's a hell of a lot of bums we need to get rid of from both party's.

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

Ellatynemouth comments on Jul 5, 2018:

I knew it! Just the fact that the ruling class owned media was giving her air time made me suspicious. Another neoliberal in disguise. **However.... ** This article was no different to the politics it was criticising. It offered no plan of action. No solutions. No practical advice. Nothing....

William_Mary replies on Jul 6, 2018:

While Teodrose Fikre writes mainly to get you to think, often using his own past experience, as I do this here, also gives insight to solutions. Within the article are 2 links where solutions were attempted. One by Cynthia McKinney against Bush in the push to Iraq. Although shunned by her fellow democrats, it demonstrates effort, a different mind set to also create self thought, which Ocasio-Cortez is going to face, again, or not. The other link consist of Teodrose Fikre clearly attempting to offer solutions. In which mainly draw you back to my initial statement. Why we do this. Getting the truth out there is the first line of defense. Creating a mass solution, which is YOU! US! and those we can mass collect to fight back.

Empire Files: War With North Korea – Propaganda vs. Reality [therealnews.com]

Rangerbeavis comments on Jul 5, 2018:

Going to war with North Korea would be like going to war with the Flintstones ( remember that one? ). Sure they have teeth but easily removed with very little left.

William_Mary replies on Jul 6, 2018:

Nice missing the point.

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

EdEarl comments on Jul 5, 2018:

There are 435 representatives in congress, one more will not make a huge difference. However, that she beat Joe Crowley who had 3x campaign funds supplied by a PAC does make a difference. It shows progressives are voting in larger numbers and that some people who have been voting Republican are ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

@EdEarl I'll agree there, but my argument is that it can't be done in that party. Local, state, and national, you just can't fight that! Ask the tea party how that works. Good idea they had. They didn't have a clue what they were really talking about on the tax issue for one thing. Then 2 months in it was bought out by the Koch bothers. The republican party swallowed it whole without chewing like a starving dog. Ask Sanders how that feels! And there's signs they already have her in their mouths and ready to swallow her. She's been on 2 MSM shows now for interviews and took a step back from her rhetoric. Seemingly scared to speak her mind when she needs to keep fighting. She can't wait and win at the same time. Either go at them or the republican is going to win. And I'm betting, the democrats at this point would be fine with a republican over a real progressive. She's not acting like a real progressive anymore!

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

Ellatynemouth comments on Jul 5, 2018:

I knew it! Just the fact that the ruling class owned media was giving her air time made me suspicious. Another neoliberal in disguise. **However.... ** This article was no different to the politics it was criticising. It offered no plan of action. No solutions. No practical advice. Nothing....

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

It's beginning to seem that way :-(

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

EdEarl comments on Jul 5, 2018:

There are 435 representatives in congress, one more will not make a huge difference. However, that she beat Joe Crowley who had 3x campaign funds supplied by a PAC does make a difference. It shows progressives are voting in larger numbers and that some people who have been voting Republican are ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

From the article and from her 2 opportunities of interviews on MSM, it's beginning to look like she is the one changing. She's been given the chance to stand her ground and she has wavered.

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

Marine comments on Jul 5, 2018:

We need new candidates to replace those who feel they are more important than the issues.

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

We need a new party to replace the old farts shiting on us! If this women is indeed already changing her tune in support of wars and Clinton, then she's just a new person with the same old flaws. She's been on MSM at least twice now with the opportunity to stand her ground and speak and she's wavered. That's not a good sign!

Communism

snytiger6 comments on Jul 2, 2018:

It would be different, but not much better. Communism works in small groups, which is villages of about 200 people or less. That is why most tribal villages had smaller numbers. Once you get above 200 people then anonymity and self interest start to take over. The system only works when ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 2, 2018:

It works in Europe. It works in Cuba and Venezuela despite the interference from the westernized world. Just imagine what Cuba and Venezuela could be today if left alone all these years, decades for Cuba. They have a near perfect mix of socialism and capitalism. And that's why you get false news about them. Because they don't want you to know it can work!

I've read all types of outraged comments here about the "CRIMINAL! NAZI! DESPICABLE! INHUMANE!" way ...

archer5691 comments on Jul 2, 2018:

Yup. The PRIORITY should always be CITIZENS........LEGAL card -carrying- tax -paying CITIZENS. And we keep forgetting this.

William_Mary replies on Jul 2, 2018:

Does that go for Melania Trump? Are you educated to how she became a citizen? Yet I never hear a Trumpster whining about how she made her way to citizenship.

If post modernism and the subjectivity of reality were true there'd be no such thing as science

citronella comments on May 10, 2018:

Reality is socially constructed, and therefore subjective. Different cultures exist because they developed in sufficient isolation from each other and could therefore develop their own shared systems and beliefs. We look at people who eat beetles or maggots or whatever and are horrified, while ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 2, 2018:

I would argue that there are a hell of a lot more scientist that don't look down on people than politicians! Their work is that to better society compared to find ways to suppress the population.

Depraved Sociopath Bill Kristol Very Excited About Recent Iran Developments ...

Druvius comments on Jul 1, 2018:

Bad link posted, but found it here. https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/07/01/depraved-sociopath-bill-kristol-very-excited-about-recent-iran-developments/

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

Thank you! Fixed. I seem to be having issues with the site or something today.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

Paul4747 comments on Jun 30, 2018:

3 Reasons why this was not anything worth reading: 1) 50 sentences with a number on the beginning of each are not 50 separate reasons. They are sentences which properly belong in fully developed paragraphs. Separating an ABCD chain of logic into A B C D doesn't make it 4 different thoughts. ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

@Paul4747 I get what you're saying to a large degree, but that's not entirely correct. As I spent the last couple of months of 2015 and 2016 on social media getting Sanders, quite unknown at the time, especially with my age group and up, out and noticed, I seen and helped a lot of those republicans in their quest to chance parties to vote for him. Which is one of the reasons I'm so angry towards him! There are a lot of republican people, mostly upper age, basically trapped in a generation gap of history and belief that don't like their party. And the fact that there were so many republicans willing to change their party affiliation to vote for a socialist is astounding. They're still voting for something that just isn't there anymore! Voting for an ideology that doesn't exist. I and many others argue that the compromise you're speaking of doesn't exist either. It's not meant to exist is our argument. And the politicians speak of it is window dressing. It's a trap, and quite frankly, I find what you and I are doing now puts us in to it. We will also argue, and quite frankly, you seem to be making the same argument, the god dam system is already broken. It isn't a system for the people, it's a system for the establishment and deep state. Why would you even suggest people stay and vote for people they don't like!?! Trust!?! I can just see me voting for Hillary Clinton with all the history of neoliberalism and lies I know about her. That would essentially make me complicit to her war crimes and tolerant to, and to her lies and corruption against the very thing I was working against during the primary and election cycle. Yes, it's been argued for years. But don't you think that with somewhere in the figures of 45% to now I think 48% of the population registered as independents isn't a sign of change? I think it was at 48% during the last election cycle. depending where you find the numbers. Progressives and green party candidates are having considerable effect on winning positions this primary cycle. It's changing! From the bottom up right now. Because people like me and our pundits aren't giving up. It took 4 decades to get here, it's going to take, hopefully less time to sweep it away. People like Nader, Hedges, Abby Martin, Robert Parry, Jill Stein,etc have all worked within an establishment and media blackout. But with social media we have recently been able to bring them out and start a movement that can speed up the process. I seen it work to a degree I still find astounding just in my republican voters remark above. Hang in there Paul!

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

SpikeTalon comments on Jun 30, 2018:

Conservative-leaning registered independent here.

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

I take it that means you don't agree with the present ways of the conservative party? Which I see as only conserving our greatest resources for themselves and corporations.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

snytiger6 comments on Jun 30, 2018:

The best reason not to opt out is that if you are a member of a party, you can vote for the least destructive candidate in the primaries.

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

I hope you hang around. I'll give you a reason to question that and hopefully give you reason to redevelop your opinion. 99.9% of the time there is no less destructive candidate when they are working for the same agenda and the same people. If you live in an area you can't vote as an independent, help the fight to change that. Even if you don't want to change. Those that live around you deserve the same rights as you! Dems And GOP Work Together Like A Boxer’s 1–2 Punch To Knock You Out https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ Caitlin starts this out about the net neutrality vote, but you can replace that, as she goes into some, with any issue of laws and bills and by going back through history see how we get the least towards solving our issues. Today is a prime example of what she is talking about. With republicans in charge of all 3 houses they are undoing quite a lot of what the weak ass democrats have done or failed to do properly. That's by design! Politics Is a Sport the Rich Play https://ghionjournal.com/politics-is-a-sport-the-rich-play/ No one can tell you it hurts anymore than myself when you get hit like a 2X4 upside your head when you come to realize everything you believed about your history, country and politics is a mascaraed party. That your perception has been managed for decades by intelligence agencies, your politicians, and your MSM (main stream media), for the benefit of the worlds most elite wealthy. And over that managed perception people around the world are being slaughtered because of the lies of false narratives these entities force upon us in a repetitive brainwashing recycle mode. Yes, it totally sucks. But it's the truth we have to face and confront it.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

gigihein comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I have to admit. I vote not to lose instead of to win. I dont like Hillary and think she would have been more powerful not getting sucked in to the ludicrous banter with Trump. She is pro fracking and like all of them is just her corporate supporters' bitch. She called Trump's followers deplorable ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

I would say Jimmy Carter. But his flaw also was being forced to play inside the agenda. The very agenda that took him out on his 2nd run via corrupt secret Iranian talks to keep Americans as hostages to make him look bad, and then falsely make Reagan look like a hero. Outside of the Kennedy's, Carter may have been the last person trying to escape the hold of that shadow government that's really running our country. I could go on for quite some time about the Carter effect. Solar energy, the Saudi oil, the failed hostage rescue, Iran-Contra from the Rumsfeld-Iran secret talks. I take a lot of flack for this opinion, but you can easily find the facts to a path to my opinion. Carters only flaw was that he was in a place and time when they were ready to make perpetual war the main agenda. He was merely in the way. I quit voting to lose because of Obama. His first 2 years was as much an eye opener for me as Sanders first 2 debates. Were tired of hearing about your dam emails was as catchy as, yes we can. All we got was, no went wont, and silence to more of her corruption via emails. Gordon Lightfoot says it perfectly. Sometimes I think it's a sin When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again. I think about politics every time I hear that verse. And the people that refuse to want to win even though they have half a mind they're voting in a corrupt system for corrupt politicians on both sides that serve that same one entity that doesn't give a shit about us. Until all those who know this quit thinking like that, and power vote to out the establishment, they are just as guilty of holding back the country. But they need to quit being drawn into believing they can bring change in that system which is only there to trap them into the infighting. I may even be wrong about Sanders. That's fine if I am. Because I'm following through on what Sanders told us about. The democratic party is corrupt and serves wall street. It will not change. Those are his very words. And that is still being proven today even after all the exposure of 2016. And just as he also said, don't go by what I do, take the movement and keep it going. What little is getting done inside that party can staunchly be expanded outside it and help it a hell of a lot faster. We are losing when people think they are winning! We're running out of time. I voted to lose, yet what I voted for is growing. Therefore I am winning.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

Paul4747 comments on Jun 30, 2018:

3 Reasons why this was not anything worth reading: 1) 50 sentences with a number on the beginning of each are not 50 separate reasons. They are sentences which properly belong in fully developed paragraphs. Separating an ABCD chain of logic into A B C D doesn't make it 4 different thoughts. ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

I also as I was reading it got the sense it could have just been an article of facts, opinion, and disapproval of the establishment party's. Not worth reading? Hardly the case. Though I agree it could have been written in a different manor, it gave real thought to the poor governing we receive and that which many people are becoming aware of today. Put another way maybe it will enlighten those who think in a way this will give meaning to to readjust there developed opinion. Not worth reading is quite harsh! I and many others have voiced the very same issue within this piece many times as we attempt to spread our opinions. That's all this was.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

starwatcher-al comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I never registered for any party, always independent and vote for the person or issue. Early on I realized the need to not be controlled by others ideas and leanings. More and more people going that way I think.

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

Yes, there is a growing trend to leave the 2 party establishment. Especially people leaving the democratic party today after what went down in 2016. People are waking up!

Democratic Elite Scrambles to Respond to Ocasio-Cortez [consortiumnews.

gigihein comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I posted anout her on FB when I saw a youtube video of her running She is so refreshing. I always here the media's first desvriotion is she was recently bartending, instead of her having degree from Boston University in Economics and International Relations. Something we will really need when ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

@gigihein I see.

Democratic Elite Scrambles to Respond to Ocasio-Cortez [consortiumnews.

gigihein comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I posted anout her on FB when I saw a youtube video of her running She is so refreshing. I always here the media's first desvriotion is she was recently bartending, instead of her having degree from Boston University in Economics and International Relations. Something we will really need when ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

Was that the video from the makers explaining the need for a low cost video due to funds? Using local people and her family and daily activities?

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

William_Mary comments on Jun 30, 2018:

36. The best the Republican Party could do in 2016 was a reality television celebrity and real estate mogul who bragged on the stage about how much influence he’s bought from politicians. Ask yourself, if you must, why don't any of our top senators or congress people run for president any ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

@gigihein exactly :-(